Offensive Playcall Concerns

papz · 10-04-2009, 06:57 PM

Back when the defense was that bad, I think he would have punted. Now that we have a respectable defense, we can afford to take some chances. If those plays would have went our way, the game could have been blown wide open. It's quite comforting to know the defense has the offense's back.

Halo · 10-04-2009, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Back when the defense was that bad, I think he would have punted. Now that we have a respectable defense, we can afford to take some chances. If those plays would have went our way, the game could have been blown wide open. It's quite comforting to know the defense has the offense's back.

Agreed. We haven't been able to depend on the defense to make plays for years. I also agree that we played a good defense this week and last.

Going into the bye 4 and 0 is a dream.

Euphoria · 10-04-2009, 08:53 PM

Play calling was good... its easy to second guess someone after the fact. You have to credit the Jets D they are a good group and well coached.

saintsfan1976 · 10-04-2009, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Play calling was good... its easy to second guess someone after the fact. You have to credit the Jets D they are a good group and well coached.

B_Dub_Saint · 10-04-2009, 10:28 PM

It had nothing to do with the 4th and 1's. It was the bullsh!t conservative play calling in the 3rd quarter. Dont get me wrong, I am more than happy about 4-0, but we have to put the dagger in the hearts of other teams to seal the win. The #1 offense has been shut down by 2 good D's the past couple of weeks, but thats no excuse for the plays that were called in the 3rd. JMHO

gumbeau · 10-05-2009, 07:06 AM

Lets see...last couple of years rather silly play calling on offense and mediocre defense has resulted in no playoffs.

This year so far the defense is playing well and the offense isn't taking chances and the Saints are 4-0.

I'm pretty sure I'll take this style.

Drew Brees looked down field several times and checked down because there was no reason to heave the ball unless the receiver was wide open.

No interceptions.

No need for quick slants when Pierre Thomas is averaging 4 yards a carry.

Even Reggie Bush averaged 6 yards a carry.

I think it is a sign of coaching maturity that the Saints don't give games away.

skymike · 10-05-2009, 07:11 AM

I liked it.

Payton HAD to go for it on 4th. We told him to from the stands. Blame us.

Saint_LB · 10-05-2009, 07:23 AM

I don't think anything has changed much with Payton...once a gambler always a gambler. I watch the Giants a lot and there is no doubt in my mind that Coughlin would have opted for the FG's in those situations. If Carney can't make 'em from 47, then we need to get Hartley back. (I'm a Carney fan, though, and I think he would've nailed it.)

The difference, however, is the defense...and anyone who denies it hasn't been paying attention. I love the style of defense we are playing now and wonder why it took so long. In the past, the defense would've folded and Payton would pay for his risk-taking, but this defense has his back.

This team is for real.

skymike · 10-05-2009, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

If Carney can't make 'em from 47, then we need to get Hartley back.

Carney can make 53. Saw him do it a couple of times yesterday easily, and I think he's stable enough to do the same thing in a game that he does in warmups.

Wasnt Hartley missing extra points in preseason?

CantonLegend · 10-05-2009, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

Carney can make 53. Saw him do it a couple of times yesterday easily, and I think he's stable enough to do the same thing in a game that he does in warmups.

Wasnt Hartley missing extra points in preseason?

hartley went 2 for 4 on FG attempts before his suspension this preseason

carney went 1 for 2 on FG attempts in the preseason

now carney has already missed a field goal in the regular season

im not saying payton doesnt trust carney.....but coaches know when to take the points and when we were only a TD up it was smarter to take the points....we didnt kick it and i think thats because of paytons lack of trust in carney

10-04-2009, 07:03 PM	#2
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,894 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by papz Back when the defense was that bad, I think he would have punted. Now that we have a respectable defense, we can afford to take some chances. If those plays would have went our way, the game could have been blown wide open. It's quite comforting to know the defense has the offense's back. Agreed. We haven't been able to depend on the defense to make plays for years. I also agree that we played a good defense this week and last. Going into the bye 4 and 0 is a dream.

10-04-2009, 08:53 PM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Play calling was good... its easy to second guess someone after the fact. You have to credit the Jets D they are a good group and well coached.

10-04-2009, 09:03 PM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,021 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by Euphoria Play calling was good... its easy to second guess someone after the fact. You have to credit the Jets D they are a good group and well coached.

10-04-2009, 10:28 PM	#5
B_Dub_Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 2,345 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns It had nothing to do with the 4th and 1's. It was the bullsh!t conservative play calling in the 3rd quarter. Dont get me wrong, I am more than happy about 4-0, but we have to put the dagger in the hearts of other teams to seal the win. The #1 offense has been shut down by 2 good D's the past couple of weeks, but thats no excuse for the plays that were called in the 3rd. JMHO

10-05-2009, 07:06 AM	#6
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 519	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Lets see...last couple of years rather silly play calling on offense and mediocre defense has resulted in no playoffs. This year so far the defense is playing well and the offense isn't taking chances and the Saints are 4-0. I'm pretty sure I'll take this style. Drew Brees looked down field several times and checked down because there was no reason to heave the ball unless the receiver was wide open. No interceptions. No need for quick slants when Pierre Thomas is averaging 4 yards a carry. Even Reggie Bush averaged 6 yards a carry. I think it is a sign of coaching maturity that the Saints don't give games away.

10-04-2009, 06:57 PM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Back when the defense was that bad, I think he would have punted. Now that we have a respectable defense, we can afford to take some chances. If those plays would have went our way, the game could have been blown wide open. It's quite comforting to know the defense has the offense's back.

10-05-2009, 07:11 AM	#7
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns I liked it. Payton HAD to go for it on 4th. We told him to from the stands. Blame us.

10-05-2009, 07:23 AM	#8
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns I don't think anything has changed much with Payton...once a gambler always a gambler. I watch the Giants a lot and there is no doubt in my mind that Coughlin would have opted for the FG's in those situations. If Carney can't make 'em from 47, then we need to get Hartley back. (I'm a Carney fan, though, and I think he would've nailed it.) The difference, however, is the defense...and anyone who denies it hasn't been paying attention. I love the style of defense we are playing now and wonder why it took so long. In the past, the defense would've folded and Payton would pay for his risk-taking, but this defense has his back. This team is for real.
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10-05-2009, 07:26 AM	#9
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by Saint_LB If Carney can't make 'em from 47, then we need to get Hartley back. Carney can make 53. Saw him do it a couple of times yesterday easily, and I think he's stable enough to do the same thing in a game that he does in warmups. Wasnt Hartley missing extra points in preseason?

10-05-2009, 07:34 AM	#10
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by skymike Carney can make 53. Saw him do it a couple of times yesterday easily, and I think he's stable enough to do the same thing in a game that he does in warmups. Wasnt Hartley missing extra points in preseason? hartley went 2 for 4 on FG attempts before his suspension this preseason carney went 1 for 2 on FG attempts in the preseason now carney has already missed a field goal in the regular season im not saying payton doesnt trust carney.....but coaches know when to take the points and when we were only a TD up it was smarter to take the points....we didnt kick it and i think thats because of paytons lack of trust in carney