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For all those that thought there was some conspiricy that kept Jake Delhome off the field, it looks like Jake is gonna end up 3rd on the Panthers depth chart to start the season.

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It is that Cajun conspiracy again .

Need to send the Panther organization , hooked on Cajunonics .

Saw a report that said , fellow teammates could hardly understand his play calling due to his heavy cajun accent .

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Actually, they\'re saying he\'s been having trouble grasping the offense. Sorta odd since according to SOME people in here he was a much smarter QB than Brooks. No, 08, I don\'t think his accent had much to do with it.

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Except for those that could not understand him ...

PFW reports :

New Panthers QB Jake Delhomme, a Louisiana native, on how his accent was difficult for some of his teammates to understand at first: “In the spring I had to stand in the huddle and say, `OK, guys, hang with me, it’s just going to take me a little time to get it out.’ �

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Yeah, I read that a few Months ago too...then I read THIS today:

\"Rodney Peete remains the starting quarterback because, at 37, he hasn\'t done anything to lose the job. Jake Delhomme, a backup in New Orleans, still hasn\'t grasped the offense, and Chris Weinke, a third-year-man at 31, remains an outsider\"

By Dave Goldberg -- AP Sportswriter

Now, you can blame it on the accent if it makes you feel better about all that crap ya\'ll were spewing, but anyone who\'s willing to see the big picture surely will.

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Right - b/c learning an NFL scheme should take less that three months right? Peete is playing b/c he\'s been in the system for how long? If you put Brooks in Carolina Peete may well be the starter right now.

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Whodat, if you put Brooks in Carolina and made you a Panthers fan, you\'d be screaming for his head complaining that he wasn\'t smart enough to learn the offense. You Bias against him (and for Delhome) is transparent.

Read earlier posts here. Go back to the time Delhome signed with Carolina. You and others in here gave him the starting job and readily assumed he\'d beat the Saints this year...and THEN we\'d all be sorry for the Great Haz Conspriacy designed to rob Jake of a Starting job. Maybe now those of us that think there might be a REASON he\'s always been a backup are being proven right and you, along with others, are being exposed.

You know I love ya Whodat, but go ahead and admit you jumped the gun. As I\'ve said many times before...it\'s ok to be wrong.

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AMEN!! And he is equally as biased against Haslett for not pulling Brooks and putting Delhome in.

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Hey ,

tobias brothers Saintsfan and Billy , do you guys post on the other 31 teams forums about what fans you are ??? ;)

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Nope. Have you and WhoDat found a Anti-Haslett and Brooks forum yet?

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So in a general N.F.L.forum , we would all be biased towards the Saints .

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I definately think you and WhoDat are big Saints fans. I also think you two are against anything that Haz and Brooks has done or will do.

It\'s all good though. I enjoy the debate..... :mad:

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The bottom line here \"08\", and without sinking to a sandlot mentality, is that YOU and WHODAT among others were quite simply W-R-O-N-G about the great Jake Delhome. Read your old posts where you were slamming Brooks and screaming at the top of your lungs for Delhome. Note the parts where ya\'ll just KNEW Haz wasn\'t starting Jake for personal reasons.

Jake has failed to make the starting lineup for another team. Now you\'re even trying to blame it on his accent ?!? If you or Whodat or the rest of the Brooks bashers gave Aaron one third the credit you give Delhome you\'d be forced to realize he\'s a better QB. Be a man and admit you were wrong. You can\'t crawfish your way out of this one. You were WRONG. Now, admit it and lets move on. :P

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Sorry Saintsfan ,

Gonna pull a Beerman on ya and keep rollin along .

Geaux Jake

Hey here is one , Haslett was biased ....... lol

Jake needs a year in the system in Carolina , next year for Jake ...... :P

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I can only smile and shake my head. Your refusal to be a \"real\" man and admit it is disappointing to say the least. I expected more. I\'m not sure why, but I did. What you\'re \"pulling\" is not exactly what I\'d call a Beerman. Let\'s see if Whodat steps up to da plate. My money says he\'ll \"pull\" something too. LOL

:casstet:

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What is the value of having an opinion if you are not going to standby it ????

By the way the fat lady has not sung on the Jake Delhomme opera yet . ;)

Some people counted Holcomb out too....... :o

Geaux Jake . :P

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Standing by your opinion when it\'s a known wrong opinion doesn\'t reflect well on ya. And for the record, I\'m not counting Jake out either. I\'m only saying that all the nonsense you and whodat were hollering last year was just that...NON-sense!

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AARON BROOKS IS THE GREATEST QB EVER!!!!!!!!!!!

he is better than montana marino elway anyone

and one day even you haters will realize this fact

now bow down and grovel!!!!! :P

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Not non sense Saintsfan , Jake Delhomme is still getting a paycheck in the N.F.L. which still makes him an N.F.L. quarterback . Unlike some of the Billy Joes that were in New Orleans , he is simply having trouble with the Carolina system .

So what you are saying is that it was better for the Saints too play an injured quarterback who needed surgery and take a 4 game slide in December , then to put in a healthy 2nd string quarterback and give the team a fighting chance to win those games .Jake was familiar with the system in New Orleans and had the ability to run the offense .

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I don\'t think it\'s that he\'s grasping the offense according to him:

http://www.panthers.com/news/newsroo...il.jsp?id=6509

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Well, I missed much of this debate, but put simply - time will tell. Just wait and see. Delhomme WILL be the starter in Carolina, and he WILL be more efficient than Brooks with a lesser running game, line, and receivers.

I am not anti-Brooks. Maybe you boneheads can get this through your head once and for all. Aaron is a good athlete. He\'s not very smart. There are lots of QBs like that in the league that do well. My major problem with Brooks is that he remains the wrong type of QB for our system. I don\'t know how many times I\'ve said that. Again - time will prove that.

As for Haslett, I love the guy until mid-season last year. And I promise that all of you people talking about how Haslett is the greatest coach the Saints have ever had will be singing a different tune when he\'s fired - just like most of you changed your song when Ditka was dumped. If the Saints go 7-9 this year, should Haslett stay? Will he still be a great coach?

If Brooks ranks in the bottom 10 in the league in passer efficiency again, will he be a great quarterback?

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WhoDat,

Someone once told me that\'s it\'s OK to admit you\'re wrong. Everyone on here has been, regardless of what they might say. Except me of course... :P

Now step up to the plate.... ;)

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How am I wrong Billy? You\'re so right and I\'m so wrong - show me a comment I\'ve made on this topic that is incorrect as of right now. Show me one. I\'ll bet you a million dollars that you can\'t.

What am I supposed to say now? Call you a fag? Right?

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There\'s where you\'re wrong. You said you\'re not anti-Brooks. Read the above statement and tell me 99 out of 100 people wouldn\'t disagree that you aren\'t anit-Brooks.

Now send me my damn money!!

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Billy - let me ask you a question... if Brooks goes down in week 1, and Bouman comes in and puts up the same kind of numbers, will you believe that Bouman is a great QB, or simply that Brooks was not as good as he was made out to be? Just a question.

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Simple really. If Bouman can indeed put up Brooks\' like numbers, then I will give the man the credit that he deserves and will defend him from the Bouman bashing crew that you\'re bound to start when he struggles a couple of times.


Here\'s something else that is quite simple. It\'s our fundamental difference in our belief about how a quarterback is developed and how throughout history some of the great QB\'s have been ridiculed by fans(such as yourself) early in their career, when they went through growing pains.

You are not the first fan to come out an openly critisize a QB before history told the whole story. QB\'s such as Steve Young, Terry Bradshaw, and Troy Aikman, just to name a few, have had to endure the same bashing that you and others have so generously placed upon Aaron Brooks.

Early in Aikmans career when the Cowboys were struggling, some fans were screaming that Aikman couldn\'t get the job done and were calling for Steve Walsh to start. Terry Bradshaw\'s start in the NFL was a classic example of how many fans don\'t have patience and call for the QB to run out of town on a rail.

I could go on and on listing QB\'s that were unjustly critisized early in their career. I can show you examples where they went to teams surrounded by talent and where they had no talent around them at all, and they had there ups and downs, but are sitting in the hall of fame now.

Now let me say this. You may very well be right about Aaron Brooks, but so could the fans of Pittsburg about Terry Bradshaw. I think most would agree with me when I say that the smart coaches don\'t listen to the fans and media and allow a QB enough time to develop and see what happens. They know playing musical chairs at QB can set the franshise back for many years and will probably end up costing the coach his job.

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It\'s simple really guys. I\'m not now nor have I ever said Brooks was a GREAT QB, yet you two (08 and whodat) always want to put that word in my mouth. I think Brooks is a DAMN GOOD QB who has done NOTHING to warrant running him out of town like you guys seem to want to do. You two started off screaming for Jake, then anybody but Brooks, and he simply doesn\'t deserve that. What I\'m saying here, or what I was trying to say before you guys got started defending Jake again, is that BOTH of you two said Jake would start in Carolina THIS year...as if it were a no-brainer...and furthermore that he\'d beat the Saints when they played...and then we\'d all be sorry. Neither of you said anything about NEXT year and you know it. You guys have continuously been over zealous in your Brooks Bashing. Based on the words both of you were typing at the end of last season and Jakes current position on the Panther\'s depth chart, you were both wrong wrong wrong. Be MEN and freakin admit it already.

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Or they find the Tom Brady\'s, the Kurt Warner\'s, the Tommy Maddox\'s, the Rich Gannon\'s, etc.
And then the team ends up getting rid of the guy they replaced because the unknown back-up or journeyman gets the job done more consistently.

Just fueling the fire.

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According to an ESPN poll, of 3,496 voters, 69.7% of the people do NOT think Jake Delhomme is the QB of the future for the Carolina Panthers.

But then again, what do the Fans know, right?

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I think that is the same poll that said the Colts should have taken Ryan Leaf instead of Peyton Manning .... ;)

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Like I said, what do the fans know?

:P