Our receivers

jn671 · 10-12-2009, 12:25 AM

Is Robert meachem a bust? Do You think devery Henderson is better? What do you think abou Billy miller should we keep him?

CantonLegend · 10-12-2009, 12:58 AM

henderson has stepped up......miller is possibly our best pass catching TE

we need to keep all the TEs we can because we've always had trouble keeping them healthy.....

meachem is.....not all he was cracked up to be.....hes shown a couple plays here and there but he is not worthy of the 1st round draft choice we used on him......yet

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-12-2009, 01:29 AM

I'm having a tough time staying out of your threads JN. I guess I just don't understand all this personnell discussion midseason.

There's a 7 month offseason that's spent doing nothing else but discussing these types of issues. So I'm just wondering why you think now is the appropriate time to discuss.

Each of our receivers including Meachem brings something to the table. Like the backs, Payton packages them interchageably. The brilliance of Drew Brees is that he doesn't play favorites. If you have the right color jersey on and you are even close to open, Brees will get you the ball.

Meachem caught a crucial 3rd down play that set up the last TD when the game was still in doubt.

He's not a bust.

Miller is a baller. He's missed. He'll be back.

What do you have to say about the critical Saints/Giants matchup next Sunday?

SFIAH

jn671 · 10-12-2009, 01:54 AM

hey man i understand what you mean. i just started on this site so please just bear with me. ive had many questions i wanted to ask.. but if it bothers you then i apologize but i just want to make conversations and express my love for the saints!

jn671 · 10-12-2009, 02:01 AM

oh and what i have to say with next weeks critical match up? well ill have to say that our saints have a big challenge ahead of them. Drew will have to throw a touchdown and the o-line will need to keep umenyoura and tuck away from him. hopefuly bell will be back and him and pierre could use the run game to bleed time on the clock. bush can open up plays for colston and the other receivers. will smith and grant should be able to give eli pressure so that the db's can cause turnovers. we also need to watch out for Jacobs and bradshaw because aside from eli's arm.. they have the legs to kill our defense if we are not ready..

hagan714 · 10-12-2009, 08:22 AM

Hey JN there is no right time or wrong time. just let the questions fly.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-12-2009, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by jn671

hey man i understand what you mean. i just started on this site so please just bear with me. ive had many questions i wanted to ask.. but if it bothers you then i apologize but i just want to make conversations and express my love for the saints!

No need to apologize. I just wanted to understand. Most of us here spent 6 months in the offseason debating these types of issues.

Right now Meachem is #3 on the pecking order. He's gotten a TD, made some critical catches, and has thrown blocks downfield. He's the reason that Lance has not rushed back from his injury.

I finally figured out in the Payton/Brees system there are few booms or busts. If you're on the team and you're a skill player you'll play. You'll get looks. But so will everyone else.

Henderson has earned his #2 spot. He stretches the field and finally started making catches. Remember that many considered him to be a bust as recently as 2 years ago.

It turns out that Miller wasn't indepensible. Shockey has stayed healthy and Thomas has been an asset. Dinkins should be back from injury.

I think the most interesting in season question is how people feel about the recent smashmouth new look offense and whether we'll see it again against the Giants.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-12-2009, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by jn671

oh and what i have to say with next weeks critical match up? well ill have to say that our saints have a big challenge ahead of them. Drew will have to throw a touchdown and the o-line will need to keep umenyoura and tuck away from him.

The interested question is whether or not the inpenetratable wall of Nicks, Goodwin, and Evans can keep Brees in a clean interior pocket to step up into. Brees moves well enough and releases fast enough that the rush ends are often not the problem. However rushes up the middle usually disrupts what he's trying to get done.

hopefuly bell will be back and him and pierre could use the run game to bleed time on the clock. bush can open up plays for colston and the other receivers.

As I said in my other post, Payton/Brees will simply run whoever is out there. I think sharing the load is smart. It was pretty easy to see that Bell was out of gas at the end of the Lions game.

Also there's simply a lot more rushing load. Do you know that at this point the Saints are attempt 8 more rushing attempts per game than they were last season? Danno pointed out that the Saints were in the top 10 in rushing the last half of last season. You can see it now.

But there's more to it. Like most NFL teams, the Saints will run the ball when ahead. And as we all well know:

THE SAINTS HAVE NOT TRAILED THIS ENTIRE SEASON!

So let's get to the more important side of the ball...

will smith and grant should be able to give eli pressure so that the db's can cause turnovers. we also need to watch out for Jacobs and bradshaw because aside from eli's arm.. they have the legs to kill our defense if we are not ready..

The rush defense has been stout and frankly Jacobs so far has been ordinary. Bradshaw the gasher is who we really need to watchout for.

Finally it's clear that Eli's new young crew of receivers are a force. We definitely need to keep them in front of out secondary.

Good analysis. Look forward to hearing more from you.

SFIAH

B_Dub_Saint · 10-12-2009, 10:46 AM

We had hella stuff to talk about like this, this offseason. Its all good buddy, SFIAH is living in ATL eating that dirty bird food and it makes you coo-coo some times

J/J buddy. Hes behind enemy lines scoping out the scene. Speaking of the dirty birds, I really wish they would have lost yesterday. DAMN!!!!!!!!

jn671 · 10-12-2009, 01:21 PM

SFIAH you've given a ton Of good points thanks. I beleive in the oline cause in reality, drew was sack the least last season if I have my facts straight. And this year not to shabby, well considering it's only the fifth week. Beleive I beleive in the saints as much as in one in this site It seem like I'm a skeptic. No, I just wanted to get some things out. Anyways if we can stop the jets pass rush we can stop the giants hard hitting sack hungry dl right?

10-12-2009, 12:25 AM	#1
jn671 Guam Saints Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Guam, USA Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 2	Our receivers Is Robert meachem a bust? Do You think devery Henderson is better? What do you think abou Billy miller should we keep him?

10-12-2009, 01:29 AM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Our receivers I'm having a tough time staying out of your threads JN. I guess I just don't understand all this personnell discussion midseason. There's a 7 month offseason that's spent doing nothing else but discussing these types of issues. So I'm just wondering why you think now is the appropriate time to discuss. Each of our receivers including Meachem brings something to the table. Like the backs, Payton packages them interchageably. The brilliance of Drew Brees is that he doesn't play favorites. If you have the right color jersey on and you are even close to open, Brees will get you the ball. Meachem caught a crucial 3rd down play that set up the last TD when the game was still in doubt. He's not a bust. Miller is a baller. He's missed. He'll be back. What do you have to say about the critical Saints/Giants matchup next Sunday? SFIAH
	Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.

10-12-2009, 01:54 AM	#4
jn671 Guam Saints Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Guam, USA Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Our receivers hey man i understand what you mean. i just started on this site so please just bear with me. ive had many questions i wanted to ask.. but if it bothers you then i apologize but i just want to make conversations and express my love for the saints!

10-12-2009, 02:01 AM	#5
jn671 Guam Saints Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Guam, USA Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Our receivers oh and what i have to say with next weeks critical match up? well ill have to say that our saints have a big challenge ahead of them. Drew will have to throw a touchdown and the o-line will need to keep umenyoura and tuck away from him. hopefuly bell will be back and him and pierre could use the run game to bleed time on the clock. bush can open up plays for colston and the other receivers. will smith and grant should be able to give eli pressure so that the db's can cause turnovers. we also need to watch out for Jacobs and bradshaw because aside from eli's arm.. they have the legs to kill our defense if we are not ready..

10-12-2009, 08:22 AM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Our receivers Hey JN there is no right time or wrong time. just let the questions fly.

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10-12-2009, 12:58 AM	#2
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Our receivers henderson has stepped up......miller is possibly our best pass catching TE we need to keep all the TEs we can because we've always had trouble keeping them healthy..... meachem is.....not all he was cracked up to be.....hes shown a couple plays here and there but he is not worthy of the 1st round draft choice we used on him......yet

10-12-2009, 09:24 AM	#7
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Our receivers Originally Posted by jn671 hey man i understand what you mean. i just started on this site so please just bear with me. ive had many questions i wanted to ask.. but if it bothers you then i apologize but i just want to make conversations and express my love for the saints! No need to apologize. I just wanted to understand. Most of us here spent 6 months in the offseason debating these types of issues. Right now Meachem is #3 on the pecking order. He's gotten a TD, made some critical catches, and has thrown blocks downfield. He's the reason that Lance has not rushed back from his injury. I finally figured out in the Payton/Brees system there are few booms or busts. If you're on the team and you're a skill player you'll play. You'll get looks. But so will everyone else. Henderson has earned his #2 spot. He stretches the field and finally started making catches. Remember that many considered him to be a bust as recently as 2 years ago. It turns out that Miller wasn't indepensible. Shockey has stayed healthy and Thomas has been an asset. Dinkins should be back from injury. I think the most interesting in season question is how people feel about the recent smashmouth new look offense and whether we'll see it again against the Giants. SFIAH
	Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.

10-12-2009, 09:39 AM	#8
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Our receivers Originally Posted by jn671 oh and what i have to say with next weeks critical match up? well ill have to say that our saints have a big challenge ahead of them. Drew will have to throw a touchdown and the o-line will need to keep umenyoura and tuck away from him. The interested question is whether or not the inpenetratable wall of Nicks, Goodwin, and Evans can keep Brees in a clean interior pocket to step up into. Brees moves well enough and releases fast enough that the rush ends are often not the problem. However rushes up the middle usually disrupts what he's trying to get done. hopefuly bell will be back and him and pierre could use the run game to bleed time on the clock. bush can open up plays for colston and the other receivers. As I said in my other post, Payton/Brees will simply run whoever is out there. I think sharing the load is smart. It was pretty easy to see that Bell was out of gas at the end of the Lions game. Also there's simply a lot more rushing load. Do you know that at this point the Saints are attempt 8 more rushing attempts per game than they were last season? Danno pointed out that the Saints were in the top 10 in rushing the last half of last season. You can see it now. But there's more to it. Like most NFL teams, the Saints will run the ball when ahead. And as we all well know: THE SAINTS HAVE NOT TRAILED THIS ENTIRE SEASON! So let's get to the more important side of the ball... will smith and grant should be able to give eli pressure so that the db's can cause turnovers. we also need to watch out for Jacobs and bradshaw because aside from eli's arm.. they have the legs to kill our defense if we are not ready.. The rush defense has been stout and frankly Jacobs so far has been ordinary. Bradshaw the gasher is who we really need to watchout for. Finally it's clear that Eli's new young crew of receivers are a force. We definitely need to keep them in front of out secondary. Good analysis. Look forward to hearing more from you. SFIAH
	Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.

10-12-2009, 10:46 AM	#9
B_Dub_Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 2,345 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Our receivers We had hella stuff to talk about like this, this offseason. Its all good buddy, SFIAH is living in ATL eating that dirty bird food and it makes you coo-coo some times J/J buddy. Hes behind enemy lines scoping out the scene. Speaking of the dirty birds, I really wish they would have lost yesterday. DAMN!!!!!!!!

10-12-2009, 01:21 PM	#10
jn671 Guam Saints Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Guam, USA Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Our receivers SFIAH you've given a ton Of good points thanks. I beleive in the oline cause in reality, drew was sack the least last season if I have my facts straight. And this year not to shabby, well considering it's only the fifth week. Beleive I beleive in the saints as much as in one in this site It seem like I'm a skeptic. No, I just wanted to get some things out. Anyways if we can stop the jets pass rush we can stop the giants hard hitting sack hungry dl right?