Reggie

WhoDat205 · 10-20-2009, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

LMAO hey ok sure why not as long as its not when the game is on the line and its down the other end of the field so its more of a punt than a fumble right.

I don't know if you guys really pay attention to the game at all but the Saints passing game is all timing and Bree's precision. Everyone is on the same page when the play is for the ball to be at a certain spot at a certain time. Brees gets that ball released to a spot and the WR hasn't even looked back for the ball they sometimes just start putting there hands up or jumping because they know where the ball is going to be. You can't defend that, has nothing to do with an effective running game. An effective running game is to keep take time off the clock. Look what Bees did last year with no running game.
The ONLY difference this year is that we have a D and our running game is slightly improved with Bush at 3rd string (LMAO).

You realize that all 4 of Brees' TDs were off the play action, right? I'd say it's doing a little more than killing the clock. Hell, the run game bailed us out in two games this season.

But the real question is, if reggie is as bad as you say, who would trade for him and what would they give up?

jn671 · 10-20-2009, 01:58 PM

Did we lose the game with those fumble? Idk if we did just wondering. Valid point regarding NFL as a business. But look at us and tHe saints as a team. We have probably the biggest supporters of fans. And talkig about business we always sell out. We make a shot load of revenue. And I know what you mean by spending soo much for bush. His contract will be done in maybe 2 to 3 years. Deal with the money spent because if we cut him it will hurt our cap. We can resign him for a lower rate once his contract is up.

Donuts32 · 10-20-2009, 02:19 PM

Actually Euph Reggie has won us games before. That ATL game in 2007, Bucs game in 2006 and some more I cant think of at the moment. Also in 2008 he was making big plays to win us games but our defense and Field goal kickers sucked.

jn671 · 10-20-2009, 02:25 PM

Good call donuts

leilung · 10-20-2009, 03:27 PM

I like the three headed RB scheme because it works. You can make arguments over how much Reggie makes, his under-achieving vs. his draft rank, and his turnovers, but the fact remains that he's another arrow in Payton's quiver to strike at the opposition. I'm just happy that coach has finally put away the cute dipsy doodle plays featuring flips and laterals to Reggie that never seemed to produce anything but fan tension and turnovers!

What I'd like to see is the RB coach getting with Tiki Barber and getting our guys to use his hold technique. If you remember, the knock on Tiki was his fumblitis. He worked on his handle, and became lethal in the last years of his career. If its as simple as re-learning how to carry so the ball doesn't pop free, why not?

jn671 · 10-20-2009, 03:33 PM

Yeah agree with leilung. I think if you look at it, at time Reggie holds the ball like a rugby ball.

foreverfan · 10-20-2009, 03:36 PM

Some advice for Reggie....

jn671 · 10-20-2009, 03:50 PM

Ahah where do you come with all these picks

Euphoria · 10-20-2009, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

You realize that all 4 of Brees' TDs were off the play action, right? I'd say it's doing a little more than killing the clock. Hell, the run game bailed us out in two games this season.

But the real question is, if reggie is as bad as you say, who would trade for him and what would they give up?

I don't know if you understand my point... not saying he is as bad as anything but for a business stand point it doesn't make much sense to have a player collecting a fat check not contributing to wins as other players making very little money. Thats just down right bad business! When we have to deal with cap issues he isn't making this any easier for his cause.

I don't know if I would take anyone for him but I would take draft 'picks'. we have a history of doing well with later round draft picks. We could use some special teams help the ways its going.

Also doesn't make much sense to have a Number 2 overall pick sitting 3rd string anything. I mean come on really?

I'll say this in caps so its clear "I HOPE HE TURNS IT AROUND I HOPE HE WINS GAMES FOR US". Right now it doesn't make much sense business wise.

Euphoria · 10-20-2009, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

I like the three headed RB scheme because it works. You can make arguments over how much Reggie makes, his under-achieving vs. his draft rank, and his turnovers, but the fact remains that he's another arrow in Payton's quiver to strike at the opposition. I'm just happy that coach has finally put away the cute dipsy doodle plays featuring flips and laterals to Reggie that never seemed to produce anything but fan tension and turnovers!

What I'd like to see is the RB coach getting with Tiki Barber and getting our guys to use his hold technique. If you remember, the knock on Tiki was his fumblitis. He worked on his handle, and became lethal in the last years of his career. If its as simple as re-learning how to carry so the ball doesn't pop free, why not?

Reggie knows how to carry the damn ball. He just made bone headed mistakes in concentration. He knows how to catch a PR and what to do he's been doing it forever! It was a mental lapse. His head isn't into it maybe to much on Kim's butt. Those muff punts and fumbles are just a mental lapse he just isn't into the game. He isn't showing that "we need me to do something to win - give me the ball" attitude.

10-20-2009, 01:57 PM	#41
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Reggie Originally Posted by Euphoria LMAO hey ok sure why not as long as its not when the game is on the line and its down the other end of the field so its more of a punt than a fumble right. I don't know if you guys really pay attention to the game at all but the Saints passing game is all timing and Bree's precision. Everyone is on the same page when the play is for the ball to be at a certain spot at a certain time. Brees gets that ball released to a spot and the WR hasn't even looked back for the ball they sometimes just start putting there hands up or jumping because they know where the ball is going to be. You can't defend that, has nothing to do with an effective running game. An effective running game is to keep take time off the clock. Look what Bees did last year with no running game. The ONLY difference this year is that we have a D and our running game is slightly improved with Bush at 3rd string (LMAO). You realize that all 4 of Brees' TDs were off the play action, right? I'd say it's doing a little more than killing the clock. Hell, the run game bailed us out in two games this season. But the real question is, if reggie is as bad as you say, who would trade for him and what would they give up?

10-20-2009, 01:58 PM	#42
jn671 Guam Saints Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Guam, USA Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Reggie Did we lose the game with those fumble? Idk if we did just wondering. Valid point regarding NFL as a business. But look at us and tHe saints as a team. We have probably the biggest supporters of fans. And talkig about business we always sell out. We make a shot load of revenue. And I know what you mean by spending soo much for bush. His contract will be done in maybe 2 to 3 years. Deal with the money spent because if we cut him it will hurt our cap. We can resign him for a lower rate once his contract is up.

10-20-2009, 02:19 PM	#43
Donuts32 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Orleans,La Posts: 306	Re: Reggie Actually Euph Reggie has won us games before. That ATL game in 2007, Bucs game in 2006 and some more I cant think of at the moment. Also in 2008 he was making big plays to win us games but our defense and Field goal kickers sucked.

10-20-2009, 02:25 PM	#44
jn671 Guam Saints Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Guam, USA Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Reggie Good call donuts

10-20-2009, 03:27 PM	#45
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,369	Re: Reggie I like the three headed RB scheme because it works. You can make arguments over how much Reggie makes, his under-achieving vs. his draft rank, and his turnovers, but the fact remains that he's another arrow in Payton's quiver to strike at the opposition. I'm just happy that coach has finally put away the cute dipsy doodle plays featuring flips and laterals to Reggie that never seemed to produce anything but fan tension and turnovers! What I'd like to see is the RB coach getting with Tiki Barber and getting our guys to use his hold technique. If you remember, the knock on Tiki was his fumblitis. He worked on his handle, and became lethal in the last years of his career. If its as simple as re-learning how to carry so the ball doesn't pop free, why not?
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10-20-2009, 03:33 PM	#46
jn671 Guam Saints Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Guam, USA Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Reggie Yeah agree with leilung. I think if you look at it, at time Reggie holds the ball like a rugby ball.

10-20-2009, 03:36 PM	#47
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10-20-2009, 03:50 PM	#48
jn671 Guam Saints Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Guam, USA Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Reggie Ahah where do you come with all these picks

10-20-2009, 07:18 PM	#49
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Reggie Originally Posted by WhoDat205 You realize that all 4 of Brees' TDs were off the play action, right? I'd say it's doing a little more than killing the clock. Hell, the run game bailed us out in two games this season. But the real question is, if reggie is as bad as you say, who would trade for him and what would they give up? I don't know if you understand my point... not saying he is as bad as anything but for a business stand point it doesn't make much sense to have a player collecting a fat check not contributing to wins as other players making very little money. Thats just down right bad business! When we have to deal with cap issues he isn't making this any easier for his cause. I don't know if I would take anyone for him but I would take draft 'picks'. we have a history of doing well with later round draft picks. We could use some special teams help the ways its going. Also doesn't make much sense to have a Number 2 overall pick sitting 3rd string anything. I mean come on really? I'll say this in caps so its clear "I HOPE HE TURNS IT AROUND I HOPE HE WINS GAMES FOR US". Right now it doesn't make much sense business wise.
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10-20-2009, 07:24 PM	#50
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Reggie Originally Posted by leilung I like the three headed RB scheme because it works. You can make arguments over how much Reggie makes, his under-achieving vs. his draft rank, and his turnovers, but the fact remains that he's another arrow in Payton's quiver to strike at the opposition. I'm just happy that coach has finally put away the cute dipsy doodle plays featuring flips and laterals to Reggie that never seemed to produce anything but fan tension and turnovers! What I'd like to see is the RB coach getting with Tiki Barber and getting our guys to use his hold technique. If you remember, the knock on Tiki was his fumblitis. He worked on his handle, and became lethal in the last years of his career. If its as simple as re-learning how to carry so the ball doesn't pop free, why not? Reggie knows how to carry the damn ball. He just made bone headed mistakes in concentration. He knows how to catch a PR and what to do he's been doing it forever! It was a mental lapse. His head isn't into it maybe to much on Kim's butt. Those muff punts and fumbles are just a mental lapse he just isn't into the game. He isn't showing that "we need me to do something to win - give me the ball" attitude.