So, after Carney missed that XP....

Tobias-Reiper · 10-19-2009, 05:47 PM

.. anyone still trusting him on do or die long FGs?

.. I for one, am glad Hartley is around.

MatthewT · 10-19-2009, 05:50 PM

Man, that was a blocked kick, nothing Carney could do about that. I will still take Carney any day on FG's 40 yards or less.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-19-2009, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Man, that was a blocked kick, nothing Carney could do about that. I will still take Carney any day on FG's 40 yards or less.

.. yes, it was a blocked kick without much penetration by the defense, and that means he didn't kick it high enough to clear the LOS.

DeadmaN · 10-26-2009, 09:57 AM

I understand where you are going with this post
The game was on the line and it was a missed kick
but from what I could see the hold was slow and sloppy and as a direct result of that happening it looked like he had to studded-steep (hesitate) just before he kicked it
and the defender got his hands on it

can't blame this one him alone

Tobias-Reiper · 10-26-2009, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by DeadmaN

I understand where you are going with this post
The game was on the line and it was a missed kick
but from what I could see the hold was slow and sloppy and as a direct result of that happening it looked like he had to studded-steep (hesitate) just before he kicked it
and the defender got his hands on it

can't blame this one him alone

The problem I have with that, I don't care about the timing or the stutter-step.. If you have been kicking footballs for a living for 20+ years, you should be able to easily kick that ball high on a straight line even if the ball is on the ground. And you don't need 3-4 steps.. your leg should be strong enough for that kick from a standing position.

I know because I could do it.

iceshack149 · 10-26-2009, 05:33 PM

Whatever decision the Saints make on their starter, I hope that they keep them both on the team. There's a few teams that need a good kicker and both our kickers are good.

Halo · 10-19-2009, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Man, that was a blocked kick, nothing Carney could do about that. I will still take Carney any day on FG's 40 yards or less.

Agree, I think the Giants blocked it. I'd look more at the kick team offensive line to where the breakdown was.

As for Carney... I think he was selected for the probowl last year but didn't start.

http://stats.boston.com/fb/story.asp...f=hea&tm=&src=

Danno · 10-19-2009, 06:08 PM

2010 1st round pick - Kicker.

WhoDat205 · 10-19-2009, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

2010 1st round pick - Kicker.

Are you still hating on Morested? You know your boy made two HUGE tackles yesterday when the coverage broke down.

Danno · 10-19-2009, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

Are you still hating on Morested? You know your boy made two HUGE tackles yesterday when the coverage broke down.

No, not hating on Morstead, just hating on pissing away 2 draft picks on a punter.

For two picks he should be the freaking gunner on coverage units too.

10-19-2009, 05:47 PM	#1
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	So, after Carney missed that XP.... .. anyone still trusting him on do or die long FGs? .. I for one, am glad Hartley is around.

10-19-2009, 05:50 PM	#2
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: So, after Carney missed that XP.... Man, that was a blocked kick, nothing Carney could do about that. I will still take Carney any day on FG's 40 yards or less.

10-19-2009, 05:58 PM	#3
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: So, after Carney missed that XP.... Originally Posted by MatthewT Man, that was a blocked kick, nothing Carney could do about that. I will still take Carney any day on FG's 40 yards or less. .. yes, it was a blocked kick without much penetration by the defense, and that means he didn't kick it high enough to clear the LOS.

10-26-2009, 09:57 AM	#4
DeadmaN Saints Junky Join Date: May 2007 Location: Metairie Originally now a Houston transplant Posts: 672	Re: So, after Carney missed that XP.... I understand where you are going with this post The game was on the line and it was a missed kick but from what I could see the hold was slow and sloppy and as a direct result of that happening it looked like he had to studded-steep (hesitate) just before he kicked it and the defender got his hands on it can't blame this one him alone
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10-26-2009, 10:28 AM	#5
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: So, after Carney missed that XP.... Originally Posted by DeadmaN I understand where you are going with this post The game was on the line and it was a missed kick but from what I could see the hold was slow and sloppy and as a direct result of that happening it looked like he had to studded-steep (hesitate) just before he kicked it and the defender got his hands on it can't blame this one him alone The problem I have with that, I don't care about the timing or the stutter-step.. If you have been kicking footballs for a living for 20+ years, you should be able to easily kick that ball high on a straight line even if the ball is on the ground. And you don't need 3-4 steps.. your leg should be strong enough for that kick from a standing position. I know because I could do it.

10-26-2009, 05:33 PM	#6
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,335 Blog Entries: 1	Re: So, after Carney missed that XP.... Whatever decision the Saints make on their starter, I hope that they keep them both on the team. There's a few teams that need a good kicker and both our kickers are good.

10-19-2009, 06:04 PM	#7
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,854 Blog Entries: 45	Re: So, after Carney missed that XP.... Originally Posted by MatthewT Man, that was a blocked kick, nothing Carney could do about that. I will still take Carney any day on FG's 40 yards or less. Agree, I think the Giants blocked it. I'd look more at the kick team offensive line to where the breakdown was. As for Carney... I think he was selected for the probowl last year but didn't start. http://stats.boston.com/fb/story.asp...f=hea&tm=&src=

10-19-2009, 06:08 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: So, after Carney missed that XP.... 2010 1st round pick - Kicker.

10-19-2009, 07:27 PM	#9
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: So, after Carney missed that XP.... Originally Posted by Danno 2010 1st round pick - Kicker. Are you still hating on Morested? You know your boy made two HUGE tackles yesterday when the coverage broke down.

10-19-2009, 09:50 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: So, after Carney missed that XP.... Originally Posted by WhoDat205 Are you still hating on Morested? You know your boy made two HUGE tackles yesterday when the coverage broke down. No, not hating on Morstead, just hating on pissing away 2 draft picks on a punter. For two picks he should be the freaking gunner on coverage units too.