Bushrod making a name for himself

10-21-2009, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

And has anyone noticed the holes our RB's are getting on rushing? Outstanding thus far.

Yeah, I saw it last year...

Last 8 games 2008 = 4.6 yards per carry

First 5 games 2009 = 4.6 yards per carry

foreverfan · 10-21-2009, 08:57 AM

WhoDatQB · 10-21-2009, 09:48 AM

Quite honestly in our passing system the Tackles are a lot less important than our guards. I could get into the nuts and bolts of it, but because of Brees and his height the goal for our tackles is to push their defenders out wide and allow brees to step up because of his great peripheral vision.

It is far more important that our outstanding guard tandem win their battles to spread out the DT's and blitzing LB's to keep the passing lanes, vision lanes, and open front pocket for Brees to step up into.

With Brees as a QB our team will need two great guards(which we have) and a above average Center. We can do just fine with good not great tackles. This is why Brown who on another team would not be great, Bushrod, Stinchcomb, and Strief have all done better here than they would anywhere else.

This is also why we were abused by the Titans with Haynesworth. He collapsed the pocket. Any team that can win the interior battle against our guards with their DT's will always be a harder win for us than a great pass rushing DE.

Frederick Smith · 10-21-2009, 09:55 AM

Hip surgery is not a good thing for Brown to have to deal with along with knee surgery if I am correct and may lessen his valve. I think he has been a good player for the Saints but is somewhat overrated.

D_it_up · 10-21-2009, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Frederick Smith

Hip surgery is not a good thing for Brown to have to deal with along with knee surgery if I am correct and may lessen his valve. I think he has been a good player for the Saints but is somewhat overrated.

Freddy Krueger has never looked that good in his life! DAMN!

CantonLegend · 10-21-2009, 10:43 AM

hes struggled against the lesser competition like the lions

i didnt get to see or hear the giants game but from many accounts he played surprisingly well

brown should still be here next season but if bushrod is progressing that means he is finally starting to learn how to pass block

saintsfan1976 · 10-21-2009, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

hes struggled against the lesser competition like the lions

i didnt get to see or hear the giants game but from many accounts he played surprisingly well

brown should still be here next season but if bushrod is progressing that means he is finally starting to learn how to pass block

J, you'd be proud of how Bushrod handled his position. I'd say he's improved with every game and has earned Brees' trust as one of the most important positions on the O line.

CantonLegend · 10-21-2009, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

J, you'd be proud of how Bushrod handled his position. I'd say he's improved with every game and has earned Brees' trust as one of the most important positions on the O line.

thats great news.....you can never have too many good linemen

BIGEASY504 · 10-21-2009, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

It's a simple choice. Let Brown go. He's not a great player who now has serious injury concerns and is looking for a big payday. Bushrod has more than proven he can do the job. The Saints seem beter in the run game without Brown. Plus, Strief can handle the job as well. And for of the ones who say "Bushrod always gets help." Yes, he gets help. As do all LT's against the better LE's in the league. And percentage wise, yes, he may get more help than an established veteran. Partly due to his inexperience and partly because of how opposing defensive coordinators may try to attack him as the possible weak link on the line. But, to me, he has shown no reason why he can't handle the job so far.

Bushrod does get help BUT he was one on one with OSI majority of the time and did a excellent job, I don't think OSI got close to Brees. If Brown is not traded he should move back to his natural position - right tackle. With Stinch and Strief as back up than the line will be pro bowlers for sure

CantonLegend · 10-21-2009, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Before the server crashed, there was a thread or two on this...... many of you were skeptical on how well he would perform. While Brown was good, I, for one, do not miss all of the holding calls we used to get when Brown was in there. Can Brown play center when he returns? Perhaps he can backup our entire OLine. Or trade him for a star DT or LB.

lol i remember a thread kind of like this one but it ended with papz standing over a bloody cantonlegend

10-21-2009, 08:52 AM	#11
Threaded by Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720 Rating: (1 votes - 5.00 average) Originally Posted by leilung And has anyone noticed the holes our RB's are getting on rushing? Outstanding thus far. Yeah, I saw it last year... Last 8 games 2008 = 4.6 yards per carry First 5 games 2009 = 4.6 yards per carry
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10-21-2009, 08:57 AM	#12
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Bushrod making a name for himself

10-21-2009, 09:48 AM	#13
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	Re: Bushrod making a name for himself Quite honestly in our passing system the Tackles are a lot less important than our guards. I could get into the nuts and bolts of it, but because of Brees and his height the goal for our tackles is to push their defenders out wide and allow brees to step up because of his great peripheral vision. It is far more important that our outstanding guard tandem win their battles to spread out the DT's and blitzing LB's to keep the passing lanes, vision lanes, and open front pocket for Brees to step up into. With Brees as a QB our team will need two great guards(which we have) and a above average Center. We can do just fine with good not great tackles. This is why Brown who on another team would not be great, Bushrod, Stinchcomb, and Strief have all done better here than they would anywhere else. This is also why we were abused by the Titans with Haynesworth. He collapsed the pocket. Any team that can win the interior battle against our guards with their DT's will always be a harder win for us than a great pass rushing DE.

10-21-2009, 09:55 AM	#14
Frederick Smith SaintsFan101 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 217	Re: Bushrod making a name for himself Hip surgery is not a good thing for Brown to have to deal with along with knee surgery if I am correct and may lessen his valve. I think he has been a good player for the Saints but is somewhat overrated.

10-21-2009, 09:58 AM	#15
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Bushrod making a name for himself Originally Posted by Frederick Smith Hip surgery is not a good thing for Brown to have to deal with along with knee surgery if I am correct and may lessen his valve. I think he has been a good player for the Saints but is somewhat overrated. Freddy Krueger has never looked that good in his life! DAMN!

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10-21-2009, 10:43 AM	#16
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Bushrod making a name for himself hes struggled against the lesser competition like the lions i didnt get to see or hear the giants game but from many accounts he played surprisingly well brown should still be here next season but if bushrod is progressing that means he is finally starting to learn how to pass block

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Bushrod making a name for himself Originally Posted by CantonLegend hes struggled against the lesser competition like the lions i didnt get to see or hear the giants game but from many accounts he played surprisingly well brown should still be here next season but if bushrod is progressing that means he is finally starting to learn how to pass block J, you'd be proud of how Bushrod handled his position. I'd say he's improved with every game and has earned Brees' trust as one of the most important positions on the O line.

10-21-2009, 10:59 AM	#18
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Bushrod making a name for himself Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 J, you'd be proud of how Bushrod handled his position. I'd say he's improved with every game and has earned Brees' trust as one of the most important positions on the O line. thats great news.....you can never have too many good linemen

10-21-2009, 11:10 AM	#19
BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	Re: Bushrod making a name for himself Originally Posted by Cruize It's a simple choice. Let Brown go. He's not a great player who now has serious injury concerns and is looking for a big payday. Bushrod has more than proven he can do the job. The Saints seem beter in the run game without Brown. Plus, Strief can handle the job as well. And for of the ones who say "Bushrod always gets help." Yes, he gets help. As do all LT's against the better LE's in the league. And percentage wise, yes, he may get more help than an established veteran. Partly due to his inexperience and partly because of how opposing defensive coordinators may try to attack him as the possible weak link on the line. But, to me, he has shown no reason why he can't handle the job so far. Bushrod does get help BUT he was one on one with OSI majority of the time and did a excellent job, I don't think OSI got close to Brees. If Brown is not traded he should move back to his natural position - right tackle. With Stinch and Strief as back up than the line will be pro bowlers for sure
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10-21-2009, 11:14 AM	#20
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Bushrod making a name for himself Originally Posted by SmashMouth Before the server crashed, there was a thread or two on this...... many of you were skeptical on how well he would perform. While Brown was good, I, for one, do not miss all of the holding calls we used to get when Brown was in there. Can Brown play center when he returns? Perhaps he can backup our entire OLine. Or trade him for a star DT or LB. lol i remember a thread kind of like this one but it ended with papz standing over a bloody cantonlegend

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