SO, after Carney missed that short field goal...

Halo · 11-03-2009, 02:15 AM

What about the Falclown's? They missed a few Field Goals too.

I think they were going for it on 4th down a few times, no confidence in their kicker.

papz · 11-03-2009, 06:19 AM

There's a reason why Payton has 2 kickers on the roster... and we still have a perfect record.

Saint_LB · 11-03-2009, 06:28 AM

I'm playing devil's advocate here...but let's say that Payton lets Carney go now...and we fast forward to the playoffs and Hartley misses a 37 yarder to send the Saints home. Wouldn't that be deja vu all over again for Payton and put him in a rather unpleasant position. I mean, he has already admitted that letting Carney go the first time was a mistake.

SmashMouth · 11-03-2009, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

I'm playing devil's advocate here...but let's say that Payton let's Carney go now...and we fast forward to the playoffs and Hartley misses a 37 yarder to send the Saints home. Wouldn't that be deja vu all over again for Payton and put him in a rather unpleasant position. I mean, he has already admitted that letting Carney go the first time was a mistake.

exactomundo ...... it's just one miss ....so far .... should a trend develop and continue, then there may be something there.

Cruize · 11-03-2009, 07:18 AM

2nd and 3. Two incompletions. Missed field goal. That brought back memories as well. Run the dang ball!

Tobias-Reiper · 11-03-2009, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

exactomundo ...... it's just one miss ....so far .... should a trend develop and continue, then there may be something there.

... he missed a FG and and an XP in Miami

FrenzyFan · 11-03-2009, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

... he missed a FG and and an XP in Miami

Exactly. Carney is not playing reliably. I am ready to let Hartley in the game. He was more reliable last season than Carney has been this season. Granted Hartley had some problems in pre-season, but I am ready to take a look. Carrying two kickers only makes sense if the short range kicker is as certain as the sunrise. Carney is not.

leilung · 11-03-2009, 10:00 AM

I concur. If he doesn't get field time, tempo with snapper/holder will be off. Rather bring in Hartley now and work out the leg than have to rely on him coming in for the clutch 50 yd attempt with the game on the line after Carney misses some short yarders.

exile · 11-03-2009, 10:04 AM

I am still cursing Carney at this very second. Cover the spread moron!

emteejae · 11-03-2009, 10:19 AM

I'm kinda torn on this. Carney has made mistakes, but so has the team....Drew makes bad decisions too. Of course, none of these errors have cost us a game. Still, as much as I'd like to support the experienced veteran (who is normally a model for consistency), I can't help but wonder if we are bracing ourselves for the second coming of Martin Erratica....I am still scarred heavily from the Viking and Bronco games last year.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: SO, after Carney missed that short field goal... Originally Posted by Saint_LB I'm playing devil's advocate here...but let's say that Payton let's Carney go now...and we fast forward to the playoffs and Hartley misses a 37 yarder to send the Saints home. Wouldn't that be deja vu all over again for Payton and put him in a rather unpleasant position. I mean, he has already admitted that letting Carney go the first time was a mistake. exactomundo ...... it's just one miss ....so far .... should a trend develop and continue, then there may be something there.

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FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Re: SO, after Carney missed that short field goal... Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper ... he missed a FG and and an XP in Miami Exactly. Carney is not playing reliably. I am ready to let Hartley in the game. He was more reliable last season than Carney has been this season. Granted Hartley had some problems in pre-season, but I am ready to take a look. Carrying two kickers only makes sense if the short range kicker is as certain as the sunrise. Carney is not.
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emteejae 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Charlottesvile, Va Posts: 109	Re: SO, after Carney missed that short field goal... I'm kinda torn on this. Carney has made mistakes, but so has the team....Drew makes bad decisions too. Of course, none of these errors have cost us a game. Still, as much as I'd like to support the experienced veteran (who is normally a model for consistency), I can't help but wonder if we are bracing ourselves for the second coming of Martin Erratica....I am still scarred heavily from the Viking and Bronco games last year.