NO Sedrick Ellis = MAJOR run yards

Papa Voodoo · 11-03-2009, 10:51 AM

They ran on the OUTSIDE. Ellis could not have changed that.

CantonLegend · 11-03-2009, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

They ran on the OUTSIDE. Ellis could not have changed that.

the runs were not designed to go outside tho

it was clear that turner was trying to run up the middle and only bouncing outside when he realized the DEs were crashing in and breaking containment

SaintsFan1967 · 11-03-2009, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

the runs were not designed to go outside tho

it was clear that turner was trying to run up the middle and only bouncing outside when he realized the DEs were crashing in and breaking containment

Agreed. When he did go up the middle Vilma met him in the hole. And Vilma won that battle. But Vilma and the others had a hard time bring him down in open space. And I see why Dunbar is just a backup. When he met Turner in the hole, Turner flat out ran over him. When will we get Scott F. back?

Danno · 11-03-2009, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

the runs were not designed to go outside tho

it was clear that turner was trying to run up the middle and only bouncing outside when he realized the DEs were crashing in and breaking containment

Good point. Not having our best DT affects the entire line.

Having Ellis may have allowed our D-line to play a bit wider, or those runs clogged up the gut may have become tackles, instead of Turner bouncing it outside.

And you can't deny Ellis's penetration disrupting the play from the start, not allowing the play to develop as easily, we probably didn't shift and stunt as much as we would had Ellis been in, and you can't ignore what his leadership brings to the entire line.

Yes the DE's (Charles slo-mo Grant in particular) certainly played badly, but not having Ellis affected the entire D-line.

11-03-2009, 10:51 AM	#1
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: NO Sedrick Ellis = MAJOR run yards They ran on the OUTSIDE. Ellis could not have changed that.

11-03-2009, 10:55 AM	#2
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: NO Sedrick Ellis = MAJOR run yards Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo They ran on the OUTSIDE. Ellis could not have changed that. the runs were not designed to go outside tho it was clear that turner was trying to run up the middle and only bouncing outside when he realized the DEs were crashing in and breaking containment

11-03-2009, 11:14 AM	#3
SaintsFan1967 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 109	Re: NO Sedrick Ellis = MAJOR run yards Originally Posted by CantonLegend the runs were not designed to go outside tho it was clear that turner was trying to run up the middle and only bouncing outside when he realized the DEs were crashing in and breaking containment Agreed. When he did go up the middle Vilma met him in the hole. And Vilma won that battle. But Vilma and the others had a hard time bring him down in open space. And I see why Dunbar is just a backup. When he met Turner in the hole, Turner flat out ran over him. When will we get Scott F. back?
SaintsFan1967 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 109

11-03-2009, 11:22 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,759	Re: NO Sedrick Ellis = MAJOR run yards Originally Posted by CantonLegend the runs were not designed to go outside tho it was clear that turner was trying to run up the middle and only bouncing outside when he realized the DEs were crashing in and breaking containment Good point. Not having our best DT affects the entire line. Having Ellis may have allowed our D-line to play a bit wider, or those runs clogged up the gut may have become tackles, instead of Turner bouncing it outside. And you can't deny Ellis's penetration disrupting the play from the start, not allowing the play to develop as easily, we probably didn't shift and stunt as much as we would had Ellis been in, and you can't ignore what his leadership brings to the entire line. Yes the DE's (Charles slo-mo Grant in particular) certainly played badly, but not having Ellis affected the entire D-line.