Defense

BillyCarpenter1 · 08-29-2003, 06:18 PM

WhoDat- Like I said we have sucked in preseason in coverage, but we have the same cornerbacks. How can they be that much worse? Did hey slow down that much in 7 months? Did the loss of Sammy Knight make them that much worse? Or, could the main reason that the secondary has looked pathetic be that they have been playing a very basic defense. This makes more sense to me as to why they have looked worse. Granted, they might not be better, but I have a very hard time beleiveing they have declined that much when you consider that the secondary is the same.

FWtex · 08-29-2003, 06:25 PM

LOL, Lots of what you think but nothing of what you know. I have to agree with whodat right now, and we will have to see how it all plays out next week. We are to close to finding out the truth to even argue about it anymore. what is done is done, now we have to live with it.

IMO, They can not be worse than last year but I don;t see them being any better that they will make a significant differnce from last year.

BillyCarpenter1 · 08-29-2003, 07:22 PM

LOL, Lots of what you think but nothing of what you know. I have to agree with whodat right now, and we will have to see how it all plays out next week. We are to close to finding out the truth to even argue about it anymore. what is done is done, now we have to live with it.

IMO, They can not be worse than last year but I don;t see them being any better that they will make a significant differnce from last year.

First you say you agree with WhoDat that the defense will be worse then you go on to say that the defense cannot be worse. Make up your mind!!! :casstet:

JOESAM2002 · 08-29-2003, 07:27 PM

I\'ve heard that saying before. \"Cheer up things could be worse, so I cheered up and sure enough things got worse.\" BTW, I just read in my trusty local newspaper that the Saints weren\'t the ones giving up the most points this preseason. Buffalo,Chicago and Houston gave up more. Not a lot more but more.

WhoDat · 08-29-2003, 07:43 PM

Billy - what complex coverage schemes do you feel are going to make the difference? Why do we want a good cover corner? B/C HE CAN COVER MAN ON MAN WITHOUT ANY HELP. That is the true judge of a corner. So, how do ours stack up so far? You think playing zone is going to help? What, bringing Bellamy up into the coverage scheme is gonna make the difference? A pass rush means that the receivers will only be five years behind our corners rather than 10 or 15... great!

BillyCarpenter1 · 08-29-2003, 08:47 PM

A pass rush means that the receivers will only be five years behind our corners rather than 10 or 15... great

LOL.......I hope you are wrong man. If this defense is indeed as bad as they have looked in the preseason, I think it\'s the worst defense I have ever seen in my life. Also, if it plays like that against Seattle I will be right back here to tall ya how wrong I was. I will also expect you to do the same thing. I don\'t like crow. I hope you do.....

[Edited on 30/8/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

FWtex · 08-29-2003, 09:15 PM

Moderator obviously edited some replies here.

JOESAM2002 · 08-29-2003, 11:09 PM

Sorry, but it wasn\'t me.

Cassady37 · 08-30-2003, 12:35 AM

I say since everyone is coming up with a name for the offense, I throw in my name for the defense: The Crawfish D!! Because we all know when the heat is turned up and them critters begin to boil real good what comes next! That\'s right! SUCK TIME!!!!

FWtex · 08-30-2003, 03:08 AM

sorry Joesam, mistake was on me. All these topics are starting to run together for me.

08-29-2003, 06:18 PM	#11
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Defense WhoDat- Like I said we have sucked in preseason in coverage, but we have the same cornerbacks. How can they be that much worse? Did hey slow down that much in 7 months? Did the loss of Sammy Knight make them that much worse? Or, could the main reason that the secondary has looked pathetic be that they have been playing a very basic defense. This makes more sense to me as to why they have looked worse. Granted, they might not be better, but I have a very hard time beleiveing they have declined that much when you consider that the secondary is the same.
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08-29-2003, 06:25 PM	#12
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370	Defense LOL, Lots of what you think but nothing of what you know. I have to agree with whodat right now, and we will have to see how it all plays out next week. We are to close to finding out the truth to even argue about it anymore. what is done is done, now we have to live with it. IMO, They can not be worse than last year but I don;t see them being any better that they will make a significant differnce from last year.
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08-29-2003, 07:22 PM	#13
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Defense LOL, Lots of what you think but nothing of what you know. I have to agree with whodat right now, and we will have to see how it all plays out next week. We are to close to finding out the truth to even argue about it anymore. what is done is done, now we have to live with it. IMO, They can not be worse than last year but I don;t see them being any better that they will make a significant differnce from last year. First you say you agree with WhoDat that the defense will be worse then you go on to say that the defense cannot be worse. Make up your mind!!! :casstet:
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08-29-2003, 07:27 PM	#14
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Defense I\'ve heard that saying before. \"Cheer up things could be worse, so I cheered up and sure enough things got worse.\" BTW, I just read in my trusty local newspaper that the Saints weren\'t the ones giving up the most points this preseason. Buffalo,Chicago and Houston gave up more. Not a lot more but more.

08-29-2003, 07:43 PM	#15
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Defense Billy - what complex coverage schemes do you feel are going to make the difference? Why do we want a good cover corner? B/C HE CAN COVER MAN ON MAN WITHOUT ANY HELP. That is the true judge of a corner. So, how do ours stack up so far? You think playing zone is going to help? What, bringing Bellamy up into the coverage scheme is gonna make the difference? A pass rush means that the receivers will only be five years behind our corners rather than 10 or 15... great!
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08-29-2003, 08:47 PM	#16
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Defense A pass rush means that the receivers will only be five years behind our corners rather than 10 or 15... great LOL.......I hope you are wrong man. If this defense is indeed as bad as they have looked in the preseason, I think it\'s the worst defense I have ever seen in my life. Also, if it plays like that against Seattle I will be right back here to tall ya how wrong I was. I will also expect you to do the same thing. I don\'t like crow. I hope you do..... [Edited on 30/8/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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08-29-2003, 09:15 PM	#17
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370	Defense Moderator obviously edited some replies here.
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08-29-2003, 11:09 PM	#18
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Defense Sorry, but it wasn\'t me.

08-30-2003, 12:35 AM	#19
Cassady37 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kilgore, Texas Posts: 337	Defense I say since everyone is coming up with a name for the offense, I throw in my name for the defense: The Crawfish D!! Because we all know when the heat is turned up and them critters begin to boil real good what comes next! That\'s right! SUCK TIME!!!!

08-30-2003, 03:08 AM	#20
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370	Defense sorry Joesam, mistake was on me. All these topics are starting to run together for me.
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