Our luck is about to run out

Rugby Saint II · 11-15-2009, 04:38 PM

The mistakes in blocking and the lack of a power running game could be a detriment to our post season progress. I don't know how much longer the ball will bounce our way, so let's hope that they can fix these problems and keep the good luck that we've had. It looks like we could be playing short in the secondary for a while.

arsaint · 11-15-2009, 04:40 PM

Tampa will be no gimmie next week, either.

They have been playing much better the past few weeks (why not, they have nothing to lose).

Division game on the road - we better have the chin strap on tight next week...

spkb25 · 11-15-2009, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

The mistakes in blocking and the lack of a power running game could be a detriment to our post season progress. I don't know how much longer the ball will bounce our way, so let's hope that they can fix these problems and keep the good luck that we've had. It looks like we could be playing short in the secondary for a while.

The offensive turnovers are bothering me! Agree

saintsfan1313 · 11-15-2009, 05:01 PM

the thing is, we've played horrible these past couple weeks, havent put in a complete game, but still won.....alot of good teams have put in crappy performances as well, but the difference is, they lost those games, we didnt. Sky is not falling. Yes, injuries are mounting. Ellis will be back in a couple weeks, same for Sharper and Greer. Yea, Porter's injury doesnt look good, but we will have to see. All in all, we are still undefeated......

hitta · 11-15-2009, 05:16 PM

The injuries are literally killing us, but I still think that no injury is hurting our defense worse than Sedrick Ellis. When you have to put 8 and 9 in the box to stop the run, it really opens up the passing game(which makes the injuries in the secondary that much worse). The TP injury is bad(especially if hes out for the year). That being said, the offense is making too many mistakes. Not sure what is wrong with Drew Brees, he's making throws I've never ever seen him make before. The high point of the game was Reggie Bush, who actually looked like a feature back that could run the ball between the tackles. Quite frankly, this was the first game I've watched since Bush has been there that I was sitting back saying that they need to give him the ball. He looked explosive and was waiting on his blacks and bursting their the hole. The Saints even with the way they played, should have won the game a lot worse than what they did. The fumble by Colston at the one foot line sucked, and the whole game it just felt like we were trying on purpose to make little mistakes to keep the Rams in the game. Sean Payton had one of his worst coaching days. For a guy that has so much confidence in his offense, it was almost like he was purposely taking the ball out of his playmakers hands. 4th and 2 and run Eckel? Kind of risky to take the guy thats been there for 2 weeks and put the game on his back. The punt was pretty bad too, and I'm not sure what in the hell Morstead was doing? A net 15 yard punt when the Rams have a chance to get the ball back and win the game? He booted the damn thing in the stands. I think we'll be fine though to be honest. Even with the injuries in the secondary, I think Ellis returning will help the backups a ton. I just don't hope Harper is out for the year. The offense isn't clicking and hasn't been for the last 3-4 weeks and we are still 9-0. Defense has to get better though.

spkb25 · 11-15-2009, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

The injuries are literally killing us, but I still think that no injury is hurting our defense worse than Sedrick Ellis. When you have to put 8 and 9 in the box to stop the run, it really opens up the passing game(which makes the injuries in the secondary that much worse). The TP injury is bad(especially if hes out for the year). That being said, the offense is making too many mistakes. Not sure what is wrong with Drew Brees, he's making throws I've never ever seen him make before. The high point of the game was Reggie Bush, who actually looked like a feature back that could run the ball between the tackles. Quite frankly, this was the first game I've watched since Bush has been there that I was sitting back saying that they need to give him the ball. He looked explosive and was waiting on his blacks and bursting their the hole. The Saints even with the way they played, should have won the game a lot worse than what they did. The fumble by Colston at the one foot line sucked, and the whole game it just felt like we were trying on purpose to make little mistakes to keep the Rams in the game. Sean Payton had one of his worst coaching days. For a guy that has so much confidence in his offense, it was almost like he was purposely taking the ball out of his playmakers hands. 4th and 2 and run Eckel? Kind of risky to take the guy thats been there for 2 weeks and put the game on his back. The punt was pretty bad too, and I'm not sure what in the hell Morstead was doing? A net 15 yard punt when the Rams have a chance to get the ball back and win the game? He booted the damn thing in the stands. I think we'll be fine though to be honest. Even with the injuries in the secondary, I think Ellis returning will help the backups a ton. I just don't hope Harper is out for the year. The offense isn't clicking and hasn't been for the last 3-4 weeks and we are still 9-0. Defense has to get better though.

Absolutely agree. As soon as he went out it was like the frigan flood gates opened- as far as running on us. I am sure some of it coincides with the teams we played being good running teams, but even so. Great point!

Yep the O play is bothering me too, and I think LM coming back could help with our o some too

Euphoria · 11-15-2009, 05:31 PM

This is what I mean any given team can beat any given team on any given day. Good teams find a way to win.

hitta · 11-15-2009, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

This is what I mean any given team can beat any given team on any given day. Good teams find a way to win.

For some reason I think a lot of football fans assume that just because your team is supposedly better, that it should be an easy victory. The best team gets upset all the time in college football, and I can promise you the difference between the talent on the teams in the NFL are closer than in college.

lumm0x · 11-15-2009, 06:21 PM

Glad to sneak out a win today but there are sure causes for alarm. Tampa may be even tougher than St. Louis was. We desperately need to get healthy on the defense. Having Greer and Sharper out and losing Porter exposed our weak secondary. Randall Gay is not a starting CB and he repeatedly displayed that. Young and Jenkins fared slightly better but are downgrades when forced in. I totally agree that the biggest issue we face is having Ellis out. The fact that we struggle versus the run is directly correlated to opponents becoming more effective in the pass.

Euphoria · 11-15-2009, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

For some reason I think a lot of football fans assume that just because your team is supposedly better, that it should be an easy victory. The best team gets upset all the time in college football, and I can promise you the difference between the talent on the teams in the NFL are closer than in college.

My other favorite quote these days is "The better team doesn't always win".

11-15-2009, 04:38 PM	#11
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Our luck is about to run out The mistakes in blocking and the lack of a power running game could be a detriment to our post season progress. I don't know how much longer the ball will bounce our way, so let's hope that they can fix these problems and keep the good luck that we've had. It looks like we could be playing short in the secondary for a while.

11-15-2009, 04:40 PM	#12
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,705	Re: Our luck is about to run out Tampa will be no gimmie next week, either. They have been playing much better the past few weeks (why not, they have nothing to lose). Division game on the road - we better have the chin strap on tight next week...

11-15-2009, 04:42 PM	#13
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Our luck is about to run out Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II The mistakes in blocking and the lack of a power running game could be a detriment to our post season progress. I don't know how much longer the ball will bounce our way, so let's hope that they can fix these problems and keep the good luck that we've had. It looks like we could be playing short in the secondary for a while. The offensive turnovers are bothering me! Agree

11-15-2009, 05:01 PM	#14
saintsfan1313 El Mero Mero Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kingsville, Tx Posts: 669	Re: Our luck is about to run out the thing is, we've played horrible these past couple weeks, havent put in a complete game, but still won.....alot of good teams have put in crappy performances as well, but the difference is, they lost those games, we didnt. Sky is not falling. Yes, injuries are mounting. Ellis will be back in a couple weeks, same for Sharper and Greer. Yea, Porter's injury doesnt look good, but we will have to see. All in all, we are still undefeated......

11-15-2009, 05:16 PM	#15
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Our luck is about to run out The injuries are literally killing us, but I still think that no injury is hurting our defense worse than Sedrick Ellis. When you have to put 8 and 9 in the box to stop the run, it really opens up the passing game(which makes the injuries in the secondary that much worse). The TP injury is bad(especially if hes out for the year). That being said, the offense is making too many mistakes. Not sure what is wrong with Drew Brees, he's making throws I've never ever seen him make before. The high point of the game was Reggie Bush, who actually looked like a feature back that could run the ball between the tackles. Quite frankly, this was the first game I've watched since Bush has been there that I was sitting back saying that they need to give him the ball. He looked explosive and was waiting on his blacks and bursting their the hole. The Saints even with the way they played, should have won the game a lot worse than what they did. The fumble by Colston at the one foot line sucked, and the whole game it just felt like we were trying on purpose to make little mistakes to keep the Rams in the game. Sean Payton had one of his worst coaching days. For a guy that has so much confidence in his offense, it was almost like he was purposely taking the ball out of his playmakers hands. 4th and 2 and run Eckel? Kind of risky to take the guy thats been there for 2 weeks and put the game on his back. The punt was pretty bad too, and I'm not sure what in the hell Morstead was doing? A net 15 yard punt when the Rams have a chance to get the ball back and win the game? He booted the damn thing in the stands. I think we'll be fine though to be honest. Even with the injuries in the secondary, I think Ellis returning will help the backups a ton. I just don't hope Harper is out for the year. The offense isn't clicking and hasn't been for the last 3-4 weeks and we are still 9-0. Defense has to get better though.
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11-15-2009, 05:22 PM	#16
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Our luck is about to run out Originally Posted by hitta The injuries are literally killing us, but I still think that no injury is hurting our defense worse than Sedrick Ellis. When you have to put 8 and 9 in the box to stop the run, it really opens up the passing game(which makes the injuries in the secondary that much worse). The TP injury is bad(especially if hes out for the year). That being said, the offense is making too many mistakes. Not sure what is wrong with Drew Brees, he's making throws I've never ever seen him make before. The high point of the game was Reggie Bush, who actually looked like a feature back that could run the ball between the tackles. Quite frankly, this was the first game I've watched since Bush has been there that I was sitting back saying that they need to give him the ball. He looked explosive and was waiting on his blacks and bursting their the hole. The Saints even with the way they played, should have won the game a lot worse than what they did. The fumble by Colston at the one foot line sucked, and the whole game it just felt like we were trying on purpose to make little mistakes to keep the Rams in the game. Sean Payton had one of his worst coaching days. For a guy that has so much confidence in his offense, it was almost like he was purposely taking the ball out of his playmakers hands. 4th and 2 and run Eckel? Kind of risky to take the guy thats been there for 2 weeks and put the game on his back. The punt was pretty bad too, and I'm not sure what in the hell Morstead was doing? A net 15 yard punt when the Rams have a chance to get the ball back and win the game? He booted the damn thing in the stands. I think we'll be fine though to be honest. Even with the injuries in the secondary, I think Ellis returning will help the backups a ton. I just don't hope Harper is out for the year. The offense isn't clicking and hasn't been for the last 3-4 weeks and we are still 9-0. Defense has to get better though. Absolutely agree. As soon as he went out it was like the frigan flood gates opened- as far as running on us. I am sure some of it coincides with the teams we played being good running teams, but even so. Great point! Yep the O play is bothering me too, and I think LM coming back could help with our o some too

11-15-2009, 05:31 PM	#17
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Our luck is about to run out This is what I mean any given team can beat any given team on any given day. Good teams find a way to win.

11-15-2009, 05:46 PM	#18
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Our luck is about to run out Originally Posted by Euphoria This is what I mean any given team can beat any given team on any given day. Good teams find a way to win. For some reason I think a lot of football fans assume that just because your team is supposedly better, that it should be an easy victory. The best team gets upset all the time in college football, and I can promise you the difference between the talent on the teams in the NFL are closer than in college.
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11-15-2009, 06:21 PM	#19
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Our luck is about to run out Glad to sneak out a win today but there are sure causes for alarm. Tampa may be even tougher than St. Louis was. We desperately need to get healthy on the defense. Having Greer and Sharper out and losing Porter exposed our weak secondary. Randall Gay is not a starting CB and he repeatedly displayed that. Young and Jenkins fared slightly better but are downgrades when forced in. I totally agree that the biggest issue we face is having Ellis out. The fact that we struggle versus the run is directly correlated to opponents becoming more effective in the pass.

11-15-2009, 06:27 PM	#20
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Our luck is about to run out Originally Posted by hitta For some reason I think a lot of football fans assume that just because your team is supposedly better, that it should be an easy victory. The best team gets upset all the time in college football, and I can promise you the difference between the talent on the teams in the NFL are closer than in college. My other favorite quote these days is "The better team doesn't always win".