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Danno 11-24-2009 07:33 AM

Re: Weakest Position on Team
 
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Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 178576)
why do you think we need DEs?

will smith has 8.5 sacks which is tied for 5th most in the league with robert mathis who is arguably the most complete DE in the league

charles grant is tied with justin tuck and joey porter with 4.5 sacks

combined they have 56 tackles(28 each) 13 sacks and 4 turnovers in 10 games

they are playing pretty well for all the hate they were getting earlier......

and you have them as your biggest need?

why?

Charles Grant is not even close to being a high quality DE. If it weren't for Gregg Williams system Charles Grant would still disappear for 3/4 of a season. He also happens to be 31 years old.

Will Smith is having his finest season yet. But I can't ignore the 3 seasons before that. He's adequate to above average. Certainly upgradable.

Neither are even close to being as good as their contacts.

I probably could have put DT above DE but in our system the DE is more important IMO. We have 1 good one, but none great.

saintsfan1976 11-24-2009 07:53 AM

Re: Weakest Position on Team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 178617)
Charles Grant is not even close to being a high quality DE. If it weren't for Gregg Williams system Charles Grant would still disappear for 3/4 of a season. He also happens to be 31 years old.

Will Smith is having his finest season yet. But I can't ignore the 3 seasons before that. He's adequate to above average. Certainly upgradable.

Neither are even close to being as good as their contacts.

I probably could have put DT above DE but in our system the DE is more important IMO. We have 1 good one, but none great.


Totally agree on Grant.

And I think Gregg wants to add his prototype DE or OLB to the Saints defense. (see Javon Kearse and Keith Bulluck).

saintsfan1976 11-24-2009 07:56 AM

Re: Weakest Position on Team
 
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Originally Posted by Modest (Post 178609)
Arent you guys CBs banged up right now? (but otherwise are good Cornerbacks iirc, not familiar enough with the Saints to know.)

where are you from, exactly? (team)

saintsfan1976 11-24-2009 08:05 AM

Re: Weakest Position on Team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 178512)
I voted DE, but could have voted DT just as easily. OT isn't looking so hot either, especially if Brown doesn't return.

In order

1. DE
2. DT
3. LT
4. OC
5. WLB
6. SLB
7. FS
8. K
9. P
10. FB
11. SS
12. RB


I'd move DT to #1 bc Ellis needs another Ellis next to him. Kendrick C is only good bc of Ellis's play. After Ellis, there's a big drop in talent there.
Keep DE up there bc of age and contracts.
I'd put OLB above C and above LT. I get what Canton says about C, but we have two stud Guards that help out really well. We probably don't have enough draft picks to get a C this year.
Does Brown come back at LT? Or does he move back to RT? Loomis's calculator will have to work overtime.
Sharper is unbelievable, but Usama behind him....ehhh. I think FS is a priority in two years.
Punter seems high to me. I would actually rank it below RB and FB simply bc of the wear and tear put on those positions.

Good job Danno

Modest 11-24-2009 01:50 PM

Re: Weakest Position on Team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 178623)
where are you from, exactly? (team)

Pats.

Barry from MS 11-24-2009 03:39 PM

Re: Weakest Position on Team
 
I voted DT, for obvious reasons...we need one more beast in the interior. We play CAR and ATL twice a year, and if you can't stop the run against those a__bags, then they keep the ball the whole game. Ellis is awesome, but he's injury prone, so matching him with another of his caliber would shore up the DL even when Ellis needs to sit. Easy.

SaintPauly 11-24-2009 04:18 PM

Re: Weakest Position on Team
 
I have to also go defensive tackle. Since Sedrick went out, teams have been running all over us. That's too much of a responsibility for one guy. I honestly think that we have another draft like last year, ALL DEFENSE. Just give Gregg Williams the cards, and let him do the draft himself! Payton can go play golf.

Euphoria 11-24-2009 04:26 PM

Re: Weakest Position on Team
 
I want to change my vote to the Fans!

Last game I saw on TV I don't think there were nearly as loud as they should be. Seems like when we had the DOME PATROL it was way louder in there.

moonhead 11-24-2009 08:46 PM

Re: Weakest Position on Team
 
outsidelinebacker really needs to be upgraded i like fujita but shanle is a lil week in my opinion but he is getting the job done but id like a upgrade if possible

mikesaintfan 11-27-2009 03:02 AM

Re: Weakest Position on Team
 
if brees goes down we r done...can u say that about any other 1 player?..get a backup qb to learn while brees is still at the top of his game..is chase daniels the guy?


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