Belichick's 3-4 Defense

SailorJ · 11-29-2009, 09:38 PM

Speaking of Bush, Bill has experience against similar guys like Marshall Faulk, Brian Westbrook and such. I think he will be able to neutralize that. And to me, Meriweather is a hard hitter and is also a very good cover man with very good ball skills. And Adalius can still be effective, maybe not what he was but definitely still very good. And Mayo is no longer rising, to me he has risen into an absolute playmaker. And yep, the guys around him are terrific. Great at playing together. And as far as Shockey goes, I don't think that will be a problem, especially doing a good job on Dallas Clark, Jason Witten, Gates, and Gonzalez in the past. And Bell and Thomas I assure will not beat us, but the name of the game is Dare you to run. Beating up those receivers and forcing everything inside. So I assure you it will take Bell, and Thomas to try and get the job done.

Dasidreidia · 11-29-2009, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by SailorJ

Speaking of Bush, Bill has experience against similar guys like Marshall Faulk, Brian Westbrook and such.

Westbrook is more like Deuce and Pierre than Reggie.

CantonLegend · 11-29-2009, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by SailorJ

Speaking of Bush, Bill has experience against similar guys like Marshall Faulk, Brian Westbrook and such. I think he will be able to neutralize that. And to me, Meriweather is a hard hitter and is also a very good cover man with very good ball skills. And Adalius can still be effective, maybe not what he was but definitely still very good. And Mayo is no longer rising, to me he has risen into an absolute playmaker. And yep, the guys around him are terrific. Great at playing together. And as far as Shockey goes, I don't think that will be a problem, especially doing a good job on Dallas Clark, Jason Witten, Gates, and Gonzalez in the past. And Bell and Thomas I assure will not beat us, but the name of the game is Dare you to run. Beating up those receivers and forcing everything inside. So I assure you it will take Bell, and Thomas to try and get the job done.

one thing i gotta comment on is the comparison to those TEs that you made about shockey

all of them are pass catching TEs and not very good at blocking......shockey is a much better blocker than any of them and runs a lot of delayed routes.....if a linebacker sees he is staying in to block, they will rush the ball....but when he sneaks out for a crossing route he will be wide open....that is the difference that shockey makes

you cant sit on him as a pass catcher because he will run right up to you, pancake you and move on up

as for the DBs

i watched leigh bodden a lot in cleveland and he got beat.....A LOT.....he and shawn springs are talented but not good enough to man up against colston, henderson, and meachem

and tyrone wheatley? c'mon.....its almost better to not cover meachem in the slot

bellichick might blitz.....but i dont expect it a lot.....brees is just too good and known around the league for getting away from pressure and tossing it to the mismatch in the secondary

as for your offense.....its very 1 dimensional.....run moss deep and cross welker over the middle or to the outside

if brady has time he'll go deep to moss......if he doesnt he'll toss it to welker underneath.....the running game is almost non existant until the pats have a lead.....and then its meaningless......but the pats wont get that safe lead in this game....no lead is safe against the saints

jn671 · 11-29-2009, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

one thing i gotta comment on is the comparison to those TEs that you made about shockey

all of them are pass catching TEs and not very good at blocking......shockey is a much better blocker than any of them and runs a lot of delayed routes.....if a linebacker sees he is staying in to block, they will rush the ball....but when he sneaks out for a crossing route he will be wide open....that is the difference that shockey makes

you cant sit on him as a pass catcher because he will run right up to you, pancake you and move on up

as for the DBs

i watched leigh bodden a lot in cleveland and he got beat.....A LOT.....he and shawn springs are talented but not good enough to man up against colston, henderson, and meachem

and tyrone wheatley? c'mon.....its almost better to not cover meachem in the slot

bellichick might blitz.....but i dont expect it a lot.....brees is just too good and known around the league for getting away from pressure and tossing it to the mismatch in the secondary

as for your offense.....its very 1 dimensional.....run moss deep and cross welker over the middle or to the outside

if brady has time he'll go deep to moss......if he doesnt he'll toss it to welker underneath.....the running game is almost non existant until the pats have a lead.....and then its meaningless......but the pats wont get that safe lead in this game....no lead is safe against the saints

good analysis canton.. that is true about that pats passing game.. our offense is the best offense in the nfl. why? peyton always keeps the DC of all the teams we played guessing. and it was said by analysts on NFl and ESPN if im not mistaken that we do have the best offensive packages in the NFL.

jn671 · 11-29-2009, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by SailorJ

Speaking of Bush, Bill has experience against similar guys like Marshall Faulk, Brian Westbrook and such. I think he will be able to neutralize that. And to me, Meriweather is a hard hitter and is also a very good cover man with very good ball skills. And Adalius can still be effective, maybe not what he was but definitely still very good. And Mayo is no longer rising, to me he has risen into an absolute playmaker. And yep, the guys around him are terrific. Great at playing together. And as far as Shockey goes, I don't think that will be a problem, especially doing a good job on Dallas Clark, Jason Witten, Gates, and Gonzalez in the past. And Bell and Thomas I assure will not beat us, but the name of the game is Dare you to run. Beating up those receivers and forcing everything inside. So I assure you it will take Bell, and Thomas to try and get the job done.

sailorj you gotta remember that we have more receivers than your D can concentrate on. Drew Brees has thrown touchdowns to 9 different receivers. you gotta put into considerations that we have Marques colston, Lance moore, Robert meachem, devery henderson, Shockey and david thomas to back up bush, pierre, and bell. so your defense has a lot to think about.

11-29-2009, 09:38 PM	#1
SailorJ Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 17	Re: Belichick's 3-4 Defense Speaking of Bush, Bill has experience against similar guys like Marshall Faulk, Brian Westbrook and such. I think he will be able to neutralize that. And to me, Meriweather is a hard hitter and is also a very good cover man with very good ball skills. And Adalius can still be effective, maybe not what he was but definitely still very good. And Mayo is no longer rising, to me he has risen into an absolute playmaker. And yep, the guys around him are terrific. Great at playing together. And as far as Shockey goes, I don't think that will be a problem, especially doing a good job on Dallas Clark, Jason Witten, Gates, and Gonzalez in the past. And Bell and Thomas I assure will not beat us, but the name of the game is Dare you to run. Beating up those receivers and forcing everything inside. So I assure you it will take Bell, and Thomas to try and get the job done.
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11-29-2009, 09:44 PM	#2
Dasidreidia 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Charlotte (Kill me), but born in Gretna. Posts: 721	Re: Belichick's 3-4 Defense Originally Posted by SailorJ Speaking of Bush, Bill has experience against similar guys like Marshall Faulk, Brian Westbrook and such. Westbrook is more like Deuce and Pierre than Reggie.

11-29-2009, 09:47 PM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Belichick's 3-4 Defense Originally Posted by SailorJ Speaking of Bush, Bill has experience against similar guys like Marshall Faulk, Brian Westbrook and such. I think he will be able to neutralize that. And to me, Meriweather is a hard hitter and is also a very good cover man with very good ball skills. And Adalius can still be effective, maybe not what he was but definitely still very good. And Mayo is no longer rising, to me he has risen into an absolute playmaker. And yep, the guys around him are terrific. Great at playing together. And as far as Shockey goes, I don't think that will be a problem, especially doing a good job on Dallas Clark, Jason Witten, Gates, and Gonzalez in the past. And Bell and Thomas I assure will not beat us, but the name of the game is Dare you to run. Beating up those receivers and forcing everything inside. So I assure you it will take Bell, and Thomas to try and get the job done. one thing i gotta comment on is the comparison to those TEs that you made about shockey all of them are pass catching TEs and not very good at blocking......shockey is a much better blocker than any of them and runs a lot of delayed routes.....if a linebacker sees he is staying in to block, they will rush the ball....but when he sneaks out for a crossing route he will be wide open....that is the difference that shockey makes you cant sit on him as a pass catcher because he will run right up to you, pancake you and move on up as for the DBs i watched leigh bodden a lot in cleveland and he got beat.....A LOT.....he and shawn springs are talented but not good enough to man up against colston, henderson, and meachem and tyrone wheatley? c'mon.....its almost better to not cover meachem in the slot bellichick might blitz.....but i dont expect it a lot.....brees is just too good and known around the league for getting away from pressure and tossing it to the mismatch in the secondary as for your offense.....its very 1 dimensional.....run moss deep and cross welker over the middle or to the outside if brady has time he'll go deep to moss......if he doesnt he'll toss it to welker underneath.....the running game is almost non existant until the pats have a lead.....and then its meaningless......but the pats wont get that safe lead in this game....no lead is safe against the saints
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11-29-2009, 09:52 PM	#4
jn671 Guam Saints Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Guam, USA Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Belichick's 3-4 Defense Originally Posted by CantonLegend one thing i gotta comment on is the comparison to those TEs that you made about shockey all of them are pass catching TEs and not very good at blocking......shockey is a much better blocker than any of them and runs a lot of delayed routes.....if a linebacker sees he is staying in to block, they will rush the ball....but when he sneaks out for a crossing route he will be wide open....that is the difference that shockey makes you cant sit on him as a pass catcher because he will run right up to you, pancake you and move on up as for the DBs i watched leigh bodden a lot in cleveland and he got beat.....A LOT.....he and shawn springs are talented but not good enough to man up against colston, henderson, and meachem and tyrone wheatley? c'mon.....its almost better to not cover meachem in the slot bellichick might blitz.....but i dont expect it a lot.....brees is just too good and known around the league for getting away from pressure and tossing it to the mismatch in the secondary as for your offense.....its very 1 dimensional.....run moss deep and cross welker over the middle or to the outside if brady has time he'll go deep to moss......if he doesnt he'll toss it to welker underneath.....the running game is almost non existant until the pats have a lead.....and then its meaningless......but the pats wont get that safe lead in this game....no lead is safe against the saints good analysis canton.. that is true about that pats passing game.. our offense is the best offense in the nfl. why? peyton always keeps the DC of all the teams we played guessing. and it was said by analysts on NFl and ESPN if im not mistaken that we do have the best offensive packages in the NFL.

11-29-2009, 09:47 PM	#5
jn671 Guam Saints Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Guam, USA Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Belichick's 3-4 Defense Originally Posted by SailorJ Speaking of Bush, Bill has experience against similar guys like Marshall Faulk, Brian Westbrook and such. I think he will be able to neutralize that. And to me, Meriweather is a hard hitter and is also a very good cover man with very good ball skills. And Adalius can still be effective, maybe not what he was but definitely still very good. And Mayo is no longer rising, to me he has risen into an absolute playmaker. And yep, the guys around him are terrific. Great at playing together. And as far as Shockey goes, I don't think that will be a problem, especially doing a good job on Dallas Clark, Jason Witten, Gates, and Gonzalez in the past. And Bell and Thomas I assure will not beat us, but the name of the game is Dare you to run. Beating up those receivers and forcing everything inside. So I assure you it will take Bell, and Thomas to try and get the job done. sailorj you gotta remember that we have more receivers than your D can concentrate on. Drew Brees has thrown touchdowns to 9 different receivers. you gotta put into considerations that we have Marques colston, Lance moore, Robert meachem, devery henderson, Shockey and david thomas to back up bush, pierre, and bell. so your defense has a lot to think about.