The Patriots are officially clowns

cargojon · 11-30-2009, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Clowns? That's harsh and in my book, classless. The Pats came into this game with nothing but respect for our squad. We played hard tonight and we came out on top. With us being up so much at that point in time, why risk your players getting hurt for what matters the most... the playoffs. Hats off to the Pats for not being sore losers.

Why do you see teams down by 10 with 1:30 to go calling timeouts and onside kicking? With a Brady / Belichek team, 21 points in 5 minutes is not unheard of.

I think it speaks to a child-like mentality where if "I can't have my way, I'm going to take my ball and go home". Again, I can't see Peyton Manning doing this.

papz · 12-01-2009, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by cargojon

Why do you see teams down by 10 with 1:30 to go calling timeouts and onside kicking? With a Brady / Belichek team, 21 points in 5 minutes is not unheard of.

How much did you really have to drink? 21 points in less than 5 minutes... give me a break. To call them clowns for that is an absolute joke. Go catch some ZZZ dude, you'll see how ridiculous that sounds tomorrow. Of course anything is possible... but the risk by far outweighs the reward.

Turbo Saint · 12-01-2009, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by papz

How much did you really have to drink? 21 points in less than 5 minutes... give me a break. To call them clowns for that is an absolute joke. Go catch some ZZZ dude, you'll see how ridiculous that sounds tomorrow. Of course anything is possible... but the risk by far outweighs the reward.

DUDE, if they're as good as their heads think they are...that should be no big deal.

granted, i think they're overrated and obviously got spanked tonight...that's no way to go out. they rolled over. GLAD TO SEE IT...but, they rolled over.

cargojon · 12-01-2009, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by papz

How much did you really have to drink? 21 points in less than 5 minutes... give me a break. To call them clowns for that is an absolute joke. Go catch some ZZZ dude, you'll see how ridiculous that sounds tomorrow. Of course anything is possible... but the risk by far outweighs the reward.

Yes, but what you're missing is that it's more than the actual points that matter. It's the "don't give up" attitude that coaches try to instill in their teams. It's a mentality.

Sorry, I still say that Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, or any other top QB/Coach combination in this league would have never done that.

Look at the Falcons game. We were up to them by double digits with like 2 minutes left in the game. A FG, converted on-side kick and they were within a hail mary heave and 2 pt conversion of tying the game. The Patriots offense had way more time than that and is FAR more potent than the Falcons. 21 points for those dudes in 5 minutes is nothing. We could have fumbled the ball like we did againts ATL, onside kick, etc ad the next thing you know they're back in it.

I could understand it if it was 28+ points, but three scores isn't that much. The Colts got three TD's in less than 2 minutes against the Texans on Sunday. Maybe they should have pulled Manning?

ETA: This is also the same club that left their starters in to pad their stats when they were up by 40+ against the Titans. You can't tell me that it's all about avoiding injuries when you pull crap like that.

Dasidreidia · 12-01-2009, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by cargojon

ETA: This is also the same club that left their starters in to pad their stats when they were up by 40+ against the Titans. You can't tell me that it's all about avoiding injuries when you pull crap like that.

That's a really good point.

Memnoch_TP · 12-01-2009, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by cargojon

Why do you see teams down by 10 with 1:30 to go calling timeouts and onside kicking? With a Brady / Belichek team, 21 points in 5 minutes is not unheard of.

I think it speaks to a child-like mentality where if "I can't have my way, I'm going to take my ball and go home". Again, I can't see Peyton Manning doing this.

Have have seen Peyton down by 3 TDs against the Bucs, when the Bucs had one of the best defenses in the NFL. With 5 minutes left, he evened it up and won it in OT.

The difference though, Tampa's offense was not a huge factor. No so much with the Siants. Our offense was not going to just shut down. Their Offense couldn't touch our Defense.

Watching Brady and Moss halfway through the 3rd quarter a statement about this week's Colts game hit me. Someone mentioned, as the Colts were down by a few scores, that they doubted a single Colt's player had the thought in his head that they might lose the game.

That was not the case with the Pats. They knew they were outclassed. They knew there was no coming back. We had them and they knew it. Benching them was the smart move.

cargojon · 12-01-2009, 02:08 PM

You're right Bill, I just did feel it kick. I guess Brady fathered another one.

dizzle88 · 12-01-2009, 02:08 AM

hey guys, on marques colstons TD grab, theres a clip of brady standing there with that look on his face, infront of loadsa screaming fans, it made me laugh wen i watched it!!

if ya go on nfl.com/videos and its under new orleans saints

WHO DAT!!!

dizzle88 · 12-01-2009, 02:12 AM

haha!!!!

fhotard · 12-01-2009, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

haha!!!!

Drew asks, "Is this where it hurts?"

11-30-2009, 11:58 PM	#1
cargojon 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 576	Re: The Patriots are officially clowns Originally Posted by papz Clowns? That's harsh and in my book, classless. The Pats came into this game with nothing but respect for our squad. We played hard tonight and we came out on top. With us being up so much at that point in time, why risk your players getting hurt for what matters the most... the playoffs. Hats off to the Pats for not being sore losers. Why do you see teams down by 10 with 1:30 to go calling timeouts and onside kicking? With a Brady / Belichek team, 21 points in 5 minutes is not unheard of. I think it speaks to a child-like mentality where if "I can't have my way, I'm going to take my ball and go home". Again, I can't see Peyton Manning doing this.
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12-01-2009, 12:06 AM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Re: The Patriots are officially clowns Originally Posted by cargojon Why do you see teams down by 10 with 1:30 to go calling timeouts and onside kicking? With a Brady / Belichek team, 21 points in 5 minutes is not unheard of. How much did you really have to drink? 21 points in less than 5 minutes... give me a break. To call them clowns for that is an absolute joke. Go catch some ZZZ dude, you'll see how ridiculous that sounds tomorrow. Of course anything is possible... but the risk by far outweighs the reward.

12-01-2009, 12:37 AM	#3
Turbo Saint SoCal Saint Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: OB - San Diego, CA Posts: 726	Re: The Patriots are officially clowns Originally Posted by papz How much did you really have to drink? 21 points in less than 5 minutes... give me a break. To call them clowns for that is an absolute joke. Go catch some ZZZ dude, you'll see how ridiculous that sounds tomorrow. Of course anything is possible... but the risk by far outweighs the reward. DUDE, if they're as good as their heads think they are...that should be no big deal. granted, i think they're overrated and obviously got spanked tonight...that's no way to go out. they rolled over. GLAD TO SEE IT...but, they rolled over.

12-01-2009, 12:42 AM	#4
cargojon 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 576	Re: The Patriots are officially clowns Originally Posted by papz How much did you really have to drink? 21 points in less than 5 minutes... give me a break. To call them clowns for that is an absolute joke. Go catch some ZZZ dude, you'll see how ridiculous that sounds tomorrow. Of course anything is possible... but the risk by far outweighs the reward. Yes, but what you're missing is that it's more than the actual points that matter. It's the "don't give up" attitude that coaches try to instill in their teams. It's a mentality. Sorry, I still say that Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, or any other top QB/Coach combination in this league would have never done that. Look at the Falcons game. We were up to them by double digits with like 2 minutes left in the game. A FG, converted on-side kick and they were within a hail mary heave and 2 pt conversion of tying the game. The Patriots offense had way more time than that and is FAR more potent than the Falcons. 21 points for those dudes in 5 minutes is nothing. We could have fumbled the ball like we did againts ATL, onside kick, etc ad the next thing you know they're back in it. I could understand it if it was 28+ points, but three scores isn't that much. The Colts got three TD's in less than 2 minutes against the Texans on Sunday. Maybe they should have pulled Manning? ETA: This is also the same club that left their starters in to pad their stats when they were up by 40+ against the Titans. You can't tell me that it's all about avoiding injuries when you pull crap like that.
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12-01-2009, 12:50 AM	#5
Dasidreidia 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Charlotte (Kill me), but born in Gretna. Posts: 721	Re: The Patriots are officially clowns Originally Posted by cargojon ETA: This is also the same club that left their starters in to pad their stats when they were up by 40+ against the Titans. You can't tell me that it's all about avoiding injuries when you pull crap like that. That's a really good point.

12-01-2009, 02:04 PM	#6
Memnoch_TP Logic Troll Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern Louisiana Posts: 565	Re: The Patriots are officially clowns Originally Posted by cargojon Why do you see teams down by 10 with 1:30 to go calling timeouts and onside kicking? With a Brady / Belichek team, 21 points in 5 minutes is not unheard of. I think it speaks to a child-like mentality where if "I can't have my way, I'm going to take my ball and go home". Again, I can't see Peyton Manning doing this. Have have seen Peyton down by 3 TDs against the Bucs, when the Bucs had one of the best defenses in the NFL. With 5 minutes left, he evened it up and won it in OT. The difference though, Tampa's offense was not a huge factor. No so much with the Siants. Our offense was not going to just shut down. Their Offense couldn't touch our Defense. Watching Brady and Moss halfway through the 3rd quarter a statement about this week's Colts game hit me. Someone mentioned, as the Colts were down by a few scores, that they doubted a single Colt's player had the thought in his head that they might lose the game. That was not the case with the Pats. They knew they were outclassed. They knew there was no coming back. We had them and they knew it. Benching them was the smart move.
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12-01-2009, 02:08 PM	#7
cargojon 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 576	Re: The Patriots are officially clowns You're right Bill, I just did feel it kick. I guess Brady fathered another one.
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12-01-2009, 02:08 AM	#8
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: The Patriots are officially clowns hey guys, on marques colstons TD grab, theres a clip of brady standing there with that look on his face, infront of loadsa screaming fans, it made me laugh wen i watched it!! if ya go on nfl.com/videos and its under new orleans saints WHO DAT!!!

12-01-2009, 02:12 AM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: The Patriots are officially clowns haha!!!!

12-01-2009, 09:17 AM	#10
fhotard 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 263	Re: The Patriots are officially clowns Originally Posted by dizzle88 haha!!!! Drew asks, "Is this where it hurts?"