First Take....

spkb25 · 12-01-2009, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

This show is killing me.... It's bad enough, that Bayless, was too gutless, to come to work today, and back up his comments about the Saints after that beatdown of his boy Brady last night, but the guy who took his place, making the comment, "The Saints are the hottest team right now, not the best, that would be the Vikings. The Vikes are ahead of the Saints in every category as a team." Paraphrased by me of course, but essentially what he said. Is their a rule, that who ever sits in that chair HAS to be a moronic douche? Unbelievable. What game did he watch last night?

Bro I saw that moron today too. I was thinking, yeah the Vikes are a very very good team, but come on man- who the hell have they played? Seriously Green Bay and Pitt, and they lost to pitt. They beat up on the frigan bears- who actually would have kept it closer had they not had so many turnovers

SaintPauly · 12-01-2009, 05:02 PM

EXACTLY!!! Who have they played, and beaten, that is better than any team we have beaten? No body. So why are they "the better team"?

spkb25 · 12-01-2009, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

EXACTLY!!! Who have they played, and beaten, that is better than any team we have beaten? No body. So why are they "the better team"?

And not that they are not a great team, cause I think minny is tough to beat, but I do not think in our moment you crown another team.

Oh and to that douche:

WE DID THIS WITHOUT TWO STARTING CB's!!!!!!

acekilla89 · 12-01-2009, 05:05 PM

if the vikings are the better team in every aspect, why do they have a loss? oh wait theyre better cause they have brett favre...and nobody is better than brett favre

CantonLegend · 12-01-2009, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Well put it in perspective...

He said on paper. I tend to agree on paper from the top down it would appear they are better. Just because we beat the pats doesn't mean we are better than everyone else. We have more games to play an a SB to win still. Winning last night entitles us to nothing.

We beat the Vikings then we are better than them.

Originally Posted by Euphoria

They base it on a check off list...
Thats why you guys shouldn't care what they say its all talk anyways. Same freaks put out mind numbing power rankings. It all doesn't matter except the final score.

RB was vikes
D line Vikes
O line Vikes
ST vikes

I don't think they rated or mentioned any category that we would win such as QB and O and even over all D or secondary.

this is the point that he was making

he said they are the better team.....but what i think he actually meant was that they have better individual players

he said you look at DE, Dline, RB, WR, etc etc and you have to put the vikings players above the saints

jarred allen is the best DE in the league right now and he is better than grant or smith in my eyes too

pat williams and kevin williams are 2 of the best DTs in the league and they play right next to each other on the same team........ellis is good but hes not williams good

AP is better than any one of our RBs....i think our combo is better than AP alone but w/e....he gets paid to think for a reason

he said that sydney rice and percy harvin are better than our receivers and that brett favre makes them better

i wasnt a fan of his analysis but thats ok because our TEAM is better

their players may be better but they dont field the better overall team

plus DREW BREES

SaintPauly · 12-01-2009, 05:41 PM

That's my point though. The Vikings have great players, but our depth, is way better than theirs. Every week, we have tds going to 3 or 5 different players. You never know who is going to have the big game, whereas, the Vikings, it's pretty easy to pinpoint their key players, and key on them. Stop Peterson, Rice, and Barrian. I mean, we shut down two of the top five receivers in the league last night in Moss, and Welker. Now why can't we do that to the Vikes? Not to mention, shutting down Brady! Three superbowl rings, as opposed to Favre's one. I'm sorry, I just think that most of these analysts, have Favre stars in their eyes, when it comes to the vikings, and they arent looking at it from a football perspective.

neugey · 12-01-2009, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Stop Peterson, Rice, and Barrian.

Don't forget Harvin he is dang fast and quite good for a rookie.

Euphoria · 12-01-2009, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

That's my point though. The Vikings have great players, but our depth, is way better than theirs. Every week, we have tds going to 3 or 5 different players. You never know who is going to have the big game, whereas, the Vikings, it's pretty easy to pinpoint their key players, and key on them. Stop Peterson, Rice, and Barrian. I mean, we shut down two of the top five receivers in the league last night in Moss, and Welker. Now why can't we do that to the Vikes? Not to mention, shutting down Brady! Three superbowl rings, as opposed to Favre's one. I'm sorry, I just think that most of these analysts, have Favre stars in their eyes, when it comes to the vikings, and they arent looking at it from a football perspective.

I don't see why you take what they have to say so personal. It doesn't matter... all that matters is we keep winning and get that win that game they call the Super Bowl. Doesn't matter what anyone has to say right now. Leave it on the field and the rest will take care of itself.

Depth is over-rated also. Its all realitve, who ever is in the game has to make plays period. Brees gets hurt we'll see how is talking depth then.

papz · 12-01-2009, 05:52 PM

Well that doesn't make any sense. Why not just go sign a bunch of Joe Blows off the street as our backups.

Tobias-Reiper · 12-01-2009, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

jarred allen is the best DE in the league right now and he is better than grant or smith in my eyes too

pat williams and kevin williams are 2 of the best DTs in the league and they play right next to each other on the same team........ellis is good but hes not williams good

AP is better than any one of our RBs....i think our combo is better than AP alone but w/e....he gets paid to think for a reason

And you are basing these observations on... ?

12-01-2009, 04:59 PM	#11
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: First Take.... Originally Posted by saintpaul25 This show is killing me.... It's bad enough, that Bayless, was too gutless, to come to work today, and back up his comments about the Saints after that beatdown of his boy Brady last night, but the guy who took his place, making the comment, "The Saints are the hottest team right now, not the best, that would be the Vikings. The Vikes are ahead of the Saints in every category as a team." Paraphrased by me of course, but essentially what he said. Is their a rule, that who ever sits in that chair HAS to be a moronic douche? Unbelievable. What game did he watch last night? Bro I saw that moron today too. I was thinking, yeah the Vikes are a very very good team, but come on man- who the hell have they played? Seriously Green Bay and Pitt, and they lost to pitt. They beat up on the frigan bears- who actually would have kept it closer had they not had so many turnovers

12-01-2009, 05:02 PM	#12
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: First Take.... EXACTLY!!! Who have they played, and beaten, that is better than any team we have beaten? No body. So why are they "the better team"?

12-01-2009, 05:04 PM	#13
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: First Take.... Originally Posted by saintpaul25 EXACTLY!!! Who have they played, and beaten, that is better than any team we have beaten? No body. So why are they "the better team"? And not that they are not a great team, cause I think minny is tough to beat, but I do not think in our moment you crown another team. Oh and to that douche: WE DID THIS WITHOUT TWO STARTING CB's!!!!!!

12-01-2009, 05:05 PM	#14
acekilla89 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Western MA Posts: 114	Re: First Take.... if the vikings are the better team in every aspect, why do they have a loss? oh wait theyre better cause they have brett favre...and nobody is better than brett favre

12-01-2009, 05:26 PM	#15
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: First Take.... Originally Posted by Euphoria Well put it in perspective... He said on paper. I tend to agree on paper from the top down it would appear they are better. Just because we beat the pats doesn't mean we are better than everyone else. We have more games to play an a SB to win still. Winning last night entitles us to nothing. We beat the Vikings then we are better than them. Originally Posted by Euphoria They base it on a check off list... Thats why you guys shouldn't care what they say its all talk anyways. Same freaks put out mind numbing power rankings. It all doesn't matter except the final score. RB was vikes D line Vikes O line Vikes ST vikes I don't think they rated or mentioned any category that we would win such as QB and O and even over all D or secondary. this is the point that he was making he said they are the better team.....but what i think he actually meant was that they have better individual players he said you look at DE, Dline, RB, WR, etc etc and you have to put the vikings players above the saints jarred allen is the best DE in the league right now and he is better than grant or smith in my eyes too pat williams and kevin williams are 2 of the best DTs in the league and they play right next to each other on the same team........ellis is good but hes not williams good AP is better than any one of our RBs....i think our combo is better than AP alone but w/e....he gets paid to think for a reason he said that sydney rice and percy harvin are better than our receivers and that brett favre makes them better i wasnt a fan of his analysis but thats ok because our TEAM is better their players may be better but they dont field the better overall team plus DREW BREES
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12-01-2009, 05:41 PM	#16
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: First Take.... That's my point though. The Vikings have great players, but our depth, is way better than theirs. Every week, we have tds going to 3 or 5 different players. You never know who is going to have the big game, whereas, the Vikings, it's pretty easy to pinpoint their key players, and key on them. Stop Peterson, Rice, and Barrian. I mean, we shut down two of the top five receivers in the league last night in Moss, and Welker. Now why can't we do that to the Vikes? Not to mention, shutting down Brady! Three superbowl rings, as opposed to Favre's one. I'm sorry, I just think that most of these analysts, have Favre stars in their eyes, when it comes to the vikings, and they arent looking at it from a football perspective.
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12-01-2009, 05:43 PM	#17
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: First Take.... Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Stop Peterson, Rice, and Barrian. Don't forget Harvin he is dang fast and quite good for a rookie.

12-01-2009, 05:47 PM	#18
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: First Take.... Originally Posted by saintpaul25 That's my point though. The Vikings have great players, but our depth, is way better than theirs. Every week, we have tds going to 3 or 5 different players. You never know who is going to have the big game, whereas, the Vikings, it's pretty easy to pinpoint their key players, and key on them. Stop Peterson, Rice, and Barrian. I mean, we shut down two of the top five receivers in the league last night in Moss, and Welker. Now why can't we do that to the Vikes? Not to mention, shutting down Brady! Three superbowl rings, as opposed to Favre's one. I'm sorry, I just think that most of these analysts, have Favre stars in their eyes, when it comes to the vikings, and they arent looking at it from a football perspective. I don't see why you take what they have to say so personal. It doesn't matter... all that matters is we keep winning and get that win that game they call the Super Bowl. Doesn't matter what anyone has to say right now. Leave it on the field and the rest will take care of itself. Depth is over-rated also. Its all realitve, who ever is in the game has to make plays period. Brees gets hurt we'll see how is talking depth then.

12-01-2009, 05:52 PM	#19
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: First Take.... Well that doesn't make any sense. Why not just go sign a bunch of Joe Blows off the street as our backups.

12-01-2009, 06:08 PM	#20
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: First Take.... Originally Posted by CantonLegend jarred allen is the best DE in the league right now and he is better than grant or smith in my eyes too pat williams and kevin williams are 2 of the best DTs in the league and they play right next to each other on the same team........ellis is good but hes not williams good AP is better than any one of our RBs....i think our combo is better than AP alone but w/e....he gets paid to think for a reason And you are basing these observations on... ?