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Old 12-06-2009, 08:59 PM   #1
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Saints exciting but they won't last...

I don't think this guy wants to give us any credit....



The Sunday Evening Post: Week 13 - Andy Hutchins - The Sporting Blog - Sporting News


I was wrong when I wrote that the Saints were the NFL's best team back in October. Even then, they showed signs of leaky rush defense, a flaw that will probably prove fatal, though their knack for shootout victories seemed more like evidence of a great team winning the close ones.

Now, it seems hard to conclude that the perpetual thrill ride the Saints have been on is propelled by excellence. They have given up 30 points to both the Dolphins and Redskins, conceded 20+ in eight games, and increasingly rely on their quarterback or turnover-happy defense to win them games.

Even worse, it appears they have barely been tested: Wins against the Eagles, Giants and Patriots are the best pelts in the Saints' collection, but none of those teams have fewer than four losses. They won't get a team with a better record than that until the playoffs: Dallas is the only winning team remaining on the slate.

So discard the notion that the Saints are a powerhouse. It makes them far easier to appreciate for what they are: The most exciting NFL team this decade.

That excitement is generated mostly by the offense. Drew Brees is a legitimately great quarterback, and has an outside shot at throwing for 40 TDs and over 4,000 yards this year, which would put him in the company of Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Dan Marino, and, tellingly, Kurt Warner. And Brees' team reminds many of those Rams under Warner when "The Greatest Show on Turf" was a nascent nickname: Both teams came equipped with a slew of skill position talents led by a once-dismissed thrower with a fast, indoor home field.

It's the defense that makes these Saints standouts. They have a host of players on their second or third teams on this unit (Darren Sharper, Jonathan Vilma, Scott Fujita, Mike McKenzie, Chris McAlister), and they seem as explosive as they are flammable. St. Louis' defense was nondescript, and remains so: The name most will associate with that team's defensive squad is Mike Jones, famous for one play only.

And, of course, these are easily embraced people, theses Saints, as they packaged as an easily-scripted post-Hurricane Katrina rise from the ashes that has some calling them America's team.

But this team's appeal is not about their story.

It's about their brand of football. It's about the way these Saints make offense a fireworks show with the always-popular vertical passing attack, and the sense that they really are charmed, stripping interceptions and turning them into touchdowns, snaring pick-sixes at an absurd rate, beating down all opponents at home, and generally leaving all onlookers breathless.

They're very good, not great, but these Saints would be a little less exciting if they were a little closer to excellent. This run will end, probably at the hands of a more powerful Vikings team in the NFC playoffs, but it will be exhilarating until the last second.
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:06 PM   #2
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Leaky rush defense? We gave up under 100 yards rushing today and were playing without our 2 starting CB's and our starting strong side LB.
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In the words of Dave Chapelle....

Yada, ya da , ya da!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:15 PM   #4
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Dude we were missing so many guys on d. If our d is healthy they are pretty darn good. He is an idiot
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These blogs aren't worth the time it takes to read them. Any moron can start a blog. Even me.
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:41 PM   #6
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He is an idiot, yes he is.
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:53 AM   #7
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Yeah the MIGHTY Vikings got the crap kicked out of them tonight. The Saints are a great team. As in ALL TIME GREAT. Sorry pal, but you should watch the whole season before you open your mouth and sound like a complete moron.
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:16 AM   #8
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Guys, I'm speaking from experience here,

Don't let other peoples stupidity get the better of you. When the Patriots won their 1st SB many opposing fans and bloggers said the same thing, that the Patriots were not as mighty as they 'pretend' to be. Every year since, the comments abounded that the Patriots would not be able to go better than 8-8. Although this season they just might , it's been 10 long, successful seasons. When someone makes statements like this one, ignore them. Getting yourself upset does nothing positive. Let the team speak for itself. I guess I'm saying that, when your team is on the top of the pile, expect the opposing fan bases, and most of those media 'experts' to do nothing but attempt to find all the negatives, truthful or not, and it's only because they are jealous of your team's success. The hardest time you will have will be to hold back on your responses to them. If you don't respond, they will eventually go away.

I also remember that there were too many victories in all those successful seasons that wore PatriotsNation down. Whether you win by 20 in an easy game or squeak out a win at the last minute by one, it's still a win, and that's all that counts.

Good luck. Continue on.
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He is an idiot, yes he is.
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:56 AM   #10
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"They have given up 30 points to both the Dolphins and Redskins, conceded 20+ in eight games, and increasingly rely on their quarterback or turnover-happy defense to win them games."

----And this is bad? Relying on the rest of the team to win games?


"Even worse, it appears they have barely been tested: Wins against the Eagles, Giants and Patriots are the best pelts in the Saints' collection, but none of those teams have fewer than four losses."

----Um, 8-4 is a pretty good record, and they would be 9-3 if they had beaten us

They have a host of players on their second or third teams on this unit (Darren Sharper, Jonathan Vilma, Scott Fujita, Mike McKenzie, Chris McAlister)

----does this make sense? Sharper & Vilma are not starters?

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This run will end, probably at the hands of a more powerful Vikings team in the NFC playoffs, but it will be exhilarating until the last second.

----I hope the Vikings like jumbalaya and zydeco. C U down here on the 24th

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