Rating Malcolm Jenkins

TheDeuce · 12-10-2009, 02:51 PM

For a rookie, I think he's played pretty well. He has been spectacular on special teams, and he's been 50/50 at cornerback. I thought he had a great game against the Patriots, and a really bad game against the Redskins.

Now, IMO, the reason we he (and the entire secondary for that matter) had a bad game against the Redskins was because of the defensive line. Any of you guys who watched the game will remember that we didn't have any sacks and only hit Jason Campbell three times in the entire game. Now I'm no expert, but I do know that when the defensive line doesn't get any pressure on the quarterback, it makes the secondary's job a lot harder.

Budsdrinker · 12-10-2009, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

For a rookie, I think he's played pretty well. He has been spectacular on special teams, and he's been 50/50 at cornerback. I thought he had a great game against the Patriots, and a really bad game against the Redskins.

Now, IMO, the reason we he (and the entire secondary for that matter) had a bad game against the Redskins was because of the defensive line. Any of you guys who watched the game will remember that we didn't have any sacks and only hit Jason Campbell three times in the entire game. Now I'm no expert, but I do know that when the defensive line doesn't get any pressure on the quarterback, it makes the secondary's job a lot harder.

There was a lot of holding being done on Will Smith that wasn't called all day which is why we didn't get to Campbell.

CantonLegend · 12-10-2009, 02:57 PM

from what ive seen of jenkins ive been surprisingly impressed

he gives up some deep balls when he is all alone with no help but so does everyone else

there are a lot of passes that go over his head but most of them are perfect throws and even when he does have great coverage, the ball is completely indefensible

like you...i love his physicallity and his size is a great asset in the NFL.....on a team where we blitz a lot its great to have a big guy shielding receivers from the ball.....he shouldnt have to cover deep routes because the blitz should be getting to the QB....if he gets beat deep even tho we blitz its not his fault all the time......QBs shouldnt have time to lob the ball over his head if we are pressuring the right way

saintsfan1976 · 12-10-2009, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

For a rookie, I think he's played pretty well. He has been spectacular on special teams, and he's been 50/50 at cornerback. I thought he had a great game against the Patriots, and a really bad game against the Redskins.

Totally agree.

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Now, IMO, the reason we he (and the entire secondary for that matter) had a bad game against the Redskins was because of the defensive line. Any of you guys who watched the game will remember that we didn't have any sacks and only hit Jason Campbell three times in the entire game. Now I'm no expert, but I do know that when the defensive line doesn't get any pressure on the quarterback, it makes the secondary's job a lot harder.

The corners played too far off the wr's. I thought the line got push, but Campbell did a good job of releasing early. The CB's always looked like they were 10 feet away.

Danno · 12-10-2009, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

The corners played too far off the wr's. I thought the line got push, but Campbell did a good job of releasing early. The CB's always looked like they were 10 feet away.

I noticed that too. Thats scheme more so than individual CB play. GW obviously wanted to keep things up front.

Maybe thats because we had our 4th and 5th CB's starting, I dunno.

Thats not really McKenzies strong suit. He's a good press CB that challenges well. Playing McKenzie 10 yards off a WR is kinda like playing Jason David in bump and run.

But it sounds kinda foolish to 2nd guess the best DC in the league and a team thats 12-0 doesn't it?

CantonLegend · 12-10-2009, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I noticed that too. Thats scheme more so than individual CB play. GW obviously wanted to keep things up front.

Maybe thats because we had our 4th and 5th CB's starting, I dunno.

Thats not really McKenzies strong suit. He's a good press CB that challenges well. Playing McKenzie 10 yards off a WR is kinda like playing Jason David in bump and run.

But it sounds kinda foolish to 2nd guess the best DC in the league and a team thats 12-0 doesn't it?

blitzing and not playing press doesnt make sense anyway.....i understand wanting to disguise the blitzes....but everybody knows we are going to blitz

blitz....delay the receivers running their routes by pressing them at the line.....then force a tough throw under pressure to a WR that is only a portion of the way through their route

that is the idea of blitzing....but without press coverage, blitzes are pretty useless

12-10-2009, 02:51 PM	#1
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Rating Malcolm Jenkins For a rookie, I think he's played pretty well. He has been spectacular on special teams, and he's been 50/50 at cornerback. I thought he had a great game against the Patriots, and a really bad game against the Redskins. Now, IMO, the reason we he (and the entire secondary for that matter) had a bad game against the Redskins was because of the defensive line. Any of you guys who watched the game will remember that we didn't have any sacks and only hit Jason Campbell three times in the entire game. Now I'm no expert, but I do know that when the defensive line doesn't get any pressure on the quarterback, it makes the secondary's job a lot harder.
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12-10-2009, 02:55 PM	#2
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Rating Malcolm Jenkins Originally Posted by TheDeuce For a rookie, I think he's played pretty well. He has been spectacular on special teams, and he's been 50/50 at cornerback. I thought he had a great game against the Patriots, and a really bad game against the Redskins. Now, IMO, the reason we he (and the entire secondary for that matter) had a bad game against the Redskins was because of the defensive line. Any of you guys who watched the game will remember that we didn't have any sacks and only hit Jason Campbell three times in the entire game. Now I'm no expert, but I do know that when the defensive line doesn't get any pressure on the quarterback, it makes the secondary's job a lot harder. There was a lot of holding being done on Will Smith that wasn't called all day which is why we didn't get to Campbell.

12-10-2009, 02:57 PM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Rating Malcolm Jenkins from what ive seen of jenkins ive been surprisingly impressed he gives up some deep balls when he is all alone with no help but so does everyone else there are a lot of passes that go over his head but most of them are perfect throws and even when he does have great coverage, the ball is completely indefensible like you...i love his physicallity and his size is a great asset in the NFL.....on a team where we blitz a lot its great to have a big guy shielding receivers from the ball.....he shouldnt have to cover deep routes because the blitz should be getting to the QB....if he gets beat deep even tho we blitz its not his fault all the time......QBs shouldnt have time to lob the ball over his head if we are pressuring the right way
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12-10-2009, 02:59 PM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,049 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rating Malcolm Jenkins Originally Posted by TheDeuce For a rookie, I think he's played pretty well. He has been spectacular on special teams, and he's been 50/50 at cornerback. I thought he had a great game against the Patriots, and a really bad game against the Redskins. Totally agree. Originally Posted by TheDeuce Now, IMO, the reason we he (and the entire secondary for that matter) had a bad game against the Redskins was because of the defensive line. Any of you guys who watched the game will remember that we didn't have any sacks and only hit Jason Campbell three times in the entire game. Now I'm no expert, but I do know that when the defensive line doesn't get any pressure on the quarterback, it makes the secondary's job a lot harder. The corners played too far off the wr's. I thought the line got push, but Campbell did a good job of releasing early. The CB's always looked like they were 10 feet away.

12-10-2009, 03:28 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Rating Malcolm Jenkins Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 The corners played too far off the wr's. I thought the line got push, but Campbell did a good job of releasing early. The CB's always looked like they were 10 feet away. I noticed that too. Thats scheme more so than individual CB play. GW obviously wanted to keep things up front. Maybe thats because we had our 4th and 5th CB's starting, I dunno. Thats not really McKenzies strong suit. He's a good press CB that challenges well. Playing McKenzie 10 yards off a WR is kinda like playing Jason David in bump and run. But it sounds kinda foolish to 2nd guess the best DC in the league and a team thats 12-0 doesn't it?

12-10-2009, 03:34 PM	#6
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Rating Malcolm Jenkins Originally Posted by Danno I noticed that too. Thats scheme more so than individual CB play. GW obviously wanted to keep things up front. Maybe thats because we had our 4th and 5th CB's starting, I dunno. Thats not really McKenzies strong suit. He's a good press CB that challenges well. Playing McKenzie 10 yards off a WR is kinda like playing Jason David in bump and run. But it sounds kinda foolish to 2nd guess the best DC in the league and a team thats 12-0 doesn't it? blitzing and not playing press doesnt make sense anyway.....i understand wanting to disguise the blitzes....but everybody knows we are going to blitz blitz....delay the receivers running their routes by pressing them at the line.....then force a tough throw under pressure to a WR that is only a portion of the way through their route that is the idea of blitzing....but without press coverage, blitzes are pretty useless

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