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arsaint 12-14-2009 05:01 PM

Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
With the Vikings still winning, I think that they will be the extra motivation that we need to finish 16-0.

I don't see the Vikings losing again unless it is the Giants - if they (NYG) still have something to play for in Week 17...

That makes it simple for the Saints. Win the next two at home and stay in the Superdome for the playoffs.

And at 15-0, why WOULDN'T you want to finish the regular season undefeated???

stockman311 12-14-2009 05:03 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Answer: Injury risk against a very physical running team with nothing to lose. And a road game to boot.

arsaint 12-14-2009 05:06 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
I still bet SP goes hammer down. The players have already indicated that they want to go for it.

Best case scenario would be that we can pull starters in the 3rd / 4th quarter of the last two games...

stockman311 12-14-2009 05:10 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Who cares what the players want. I want a Super Bowl. You don't let the inmates run the asylum. That's the reason the team has upper management. Would 16-0 be great? Of course. In the grand scheme would I rather have a Super Bowl and not risk injuring players in a meaningless game. Damn right.

arsaint 12-14-2009 05:12 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Guess I'm greedy. I want my cake with extra icing!

guerrysmith 12-14-2009 05:14 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
The Giants lost two key players to injury against the Patriots in a meaningless regular-season finale in 2007 and still won the Super Bowl.

Payton can't be stupid in the last game of the regular season, but it's never a good idea to mail it in. Being the first 19-0 team in NFL history absolutely means something.

stockman311 12-14-2009 05:15 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Big picture man. Big picture. Do you want to look back and remember the Superbowless season of 16-0 season that went horribly wrong because Julius Peppers decks Brees in the final minutes of a meaningless game, or do you want that Lombardi trophy in a trophy case in the Superdome?

Euphoria 12-14-2009 05:16 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Every year someone wins a SB but not every year you finish 16-0. We have won and continue to win with injuries. You play every game to win if you sit players they get cold and not battle ready. Late 4th qtr sure sent them if we are going to win but... you go 16-0

lynwood 12-14-2009 05:16 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
I say these players get paid to play. You play the game to win. Injuries may or may not happen and resting everyone doesn't guarantee a win. If you jump on an opposing team and have a sizable lead in the 3rd then take your starters out. If we sit everyone out and lose the last game, then lose our first playoff game then what? Let them play and the chips fall where they may.

neugey 12-14-2009 05:20 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Keep the starters in until the game is decided and try to win. It's not all about 16-0, it's about giving no quarter and never conceding, whether its the Bucs or the Colts. That sends a message and sets an winning attitude.

skymike 12-14-2009 05:24 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
The answer, I believe, is both. You dont want to pull a "Colts," and quit playing at week 13, but I think you pull Brees out at least by halftime at Carolina. What makes yall so sure our backups cant win? They almost beat the Panthers in '06.

If we win the last game we play this year, you will be very happy.

arsaint 12-14-2009 05:25 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Ideal would be to build up a big lead, pull Brees and then...

Brunell handoff to Hamilton for 4 yards, over and over and over.

stockman311 12-14-2009 05:25 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
I think you guy's gusto for the perfect season is blinding you to the fact that we have the second oldest roster in the league, our bye week was all the way back in week 4, our defense, once ranked in the top ten has slid all the way into the low 20's. Sharper appears to be playing slower than early this year.
I'm sorry but these guys need a break after they wrap up HFA. Never thought I'd be the voice of reason on this board.

arsaint 12-14-2009 05:28 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
True, but where does rest end and rust begin???

The players already have another BYE coming up.


The Colts have been killed by this many times in the past, although they usually rested more than 1 regular season game...

CantonLegend 12-14-2009 05:29 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
the vikings arent the best anything......least of all a friend

i hate the vikings almost as much as the falcons......there isnt one good thing to say about them....especially their purple jerseys......when i think manly....or when i think football.......i definitly think purple lol

arsaint 12-14-2009 05:32 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Hey, only the 49ers are lower than the Vikings on my list of NFL teams.

I remember the end of the 1987 and 2000 seasons all too well to ever like them.


My point was that them winning almost forces us to try to go 15-0, and after that, I think "why not" on going for 16-0.

stockman311 12-14-2009 05:34 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 183853)
The answer, I believe, is both. You dont want to pull a "Colts," and quit playing at week 13, but I think you pull Brees out at least by halftime at Carolina. What makes yall so sure our backups cant win? They almost beat the Panthers in '06.

If we win the last game we play this year, you will be very happy.

We don't have the luxury of quitting after week 13. We don't have HFA yet. But we should have it after Tampa, and I feel the risk is greater than the reward. If we were playing game 16 at HOME against a pass heavy team that's one thing. But on the road, in the elements against a the most RUN heavy team in the league is just a recipe for disaster in my mind. Starters should sit if HFA is wrapped up and Im not backing down from that stance.

skymike 12-14-2009 05:48 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 183860)
Hey, only the 49ers are lower than the Vikings on my list of NFL teams.

I remember the end of the 1987 and 2000 seasons all too well to ever like them.

My point was that them winning almost forces us to try to go 15-0, and after that, I think "why not" on going for 16-0.

Boy do I remember that too. Unfortunately, we cant exact revenge on Anthony Carter or Hassan Jones, but I'd still take pleasure in beating their ***.

You know who we should be scared of? Arizona. I think we match up well vs. the Vikes, but I think the Cardinals are starting to click, and could
really give us a lot of trouble.

bignic26 12-14-2009 07:59 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Yep, we have to go balls out the rest of the way because home field advantage would pave the way to Miami. We have the best home field advantage in the NFL, who is gonna come into The Dome and beat this team in the playoffs?

SaintPauly 12-14-2009 08:13 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Arizona, correction, Kurt Warner, is perfect on the road, up til tonight. Arizona is no joke, when it comes to road games. Lets also not forget, that they've been here before. Not to mention Philly is starting to click as well. Here's a bit of advice, I gave myself a long time ago, NEVER take anything for granted, when it comes to the play offs. Every team that makes it, deserves to be there, and anyone of them can kick your arse, on any given week. The superbowl is the most important thing. All other things take the backseat. Whatever it takes to get there, I'm all for.

Dasidreidia 12-15-2009 05:12 AM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
I'm tired of this. You can get injured just as easily in playoff games, thus possibly preventing a Superbowl win.

16-0 AND a Superbowl is absolutely possible. You won't automatically lose the Superbowl if you go 16-0. The Patriots choked. Everyone needs to get over it. You have to be 16-0 to be 19-0.

When the game is wrapped up, yes, you can sit some starters. But don't sacrifice the game for it.

Put the pedal through the floor and cruise into history!
/rant WHO DAT!

CantonLegend 12-15-2009 09:28 AM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasidreidia (Post 183979)
I'm tired of this. You can get injured just as easily in playoff games, thus possibly preventing a Superbowl win.

16-0 AND a Superbowl is absolutely possible. You won't automatically lose the Superbowl if you go 16-0. The Patriots choked. Everyone needs to get over it. You have to be 16-0 to be 19-0.

When the game is wrapped up, yes, you can sit some starters. But don't sacrifice the game for it.

Put the pedal through the floor and cruise into history!
/rant WHO DAT!

but you would get injured fighting for something.....week 17 will be a meaningless game for us except for some dumb record.....why couldnt we beat the panthers with mark brunell playing QB, meachem and devery starting at WR, David thomas and darnell dinkins playing TE, Usama Young, malcom jenkins, randall gay, and MM starting in the secondary

Dasidreidia 12-16-2009 12:57 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 184052)
but you would get injured fighting for something.....week 17 will be a meaningless game for us except for some dumb record.....why couldnt we beat the panthers with mark brunell playing QB, meachem and devery starting at WR, David thomas and darnell dinkins playing TE, Usama Young, malcom jenkins, randall gay, and MM starting in the secondary

I have no problem with that arrangement. That being said, do you really think Drew will be willing to not be a part of that last win?

And it's not some dumb record. IT'S THE PERFECT SEASON!! Only one team ever did that. It's major history.

"Heroes get remembered but legends never die."

(I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just irritated.)

savoyk 12-16-2009 04:06 PM

Re: Vikings are the 16-0 season's best friend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasidreidia (Post 183979)
I'm tired of this. You can get injured just as easily in playoff games, thus possibly preventing a Superbowl win.

16-0 AND a Superbowl is absolutely possible. You won't automatically lose the Superbowl if you go 16-0. The Patriots choked. Everyone needs to get over it. You have to be 16-0 to be 19-0.

When the game is wrapped up, yes, you can sit some starters. But don't sacrifice the game for it.

Put the pedal through the floor and cruise into history!
/rant WHO DAT!


AGREED!:notworthy:


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