Cowboys 24 Saints 17 where was the breakdown for the Saints?

Budsdrinker · 12-21-2009, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

... hard to win games when you only score 3 points in 3+ quarters.

Thank You. Everybody always jumps on the defense. If we score our average point total we win. The O-line was terrible. Thomas missed 2 blitzes and the defender came in untouched. Too many dropped passes and on the Brees interception the whole timing of the play was thrown off from the beginning when Goodwin left the game after being shaken up and leckey came in and the shotgun snap hit Brees in the facemask which cost him a second and threw off his timing an he under threw the ball. Payton should have given help to Bushrod but didn't and we really missed Shockey. We beat Tampa this week and we can rest everyone for 2 weeks to get healthy and we will be fine for the playoffs.

nutria · 12-21-2009, 06:52 AM

Bad news--Bushrod needed help with Ware, coaches needed to adjust and they did not.

Good News---Demarcus Ware is only on the Cowboys team and if we see him again, hopefully a TE or RB will help Bushrod out.

3rd and 7 and you can't get off the field, you loose the game.

Cowgirls wanted it and needed it more than the Saints.

CantonLegend · 12-21-2009, 08:41 AM

offensive line....

coaching staff...

special teams......not hartley and morstead.....but coverage was terrible

saintsfan1976 · 12-21-2009, 08:44 AM

"They simply executed; they executed on our misfortunes. We were out of position on a few plays. They have a really good offense, and they capitalized on our mistakes.

Tracy Porter

MATHIUS · 12-21-2009, 10:25 AM

the difference is right here. the cowboys played like a desperate team who absolutely had to have this win to save their season and dignity. the saints arent desperate and weren't ready to match the cowboys intensity. which is only natural when your being told all week how you're so much better than the cowboys and how they dont stand a chance. naturally the saints came out laid back and not ready for the more focused cowboys. as much as it hurts to say, but its true.

darstep · 12-21-2009, 01:00 PM

We got behind early...AGAIN...and this time the well was dry. After last weeks win, Peyton tried to be what he calls "balanced", rather than taking what was being given, and it backfired. Balance will come because we have so many weapons that open up other parts of our game. We got down and became one dimensional: 45 throws and 11 rushes. There was no protection, no push up front, no pass rush on the other side of the ball, poor tackling: we did everything necessary to lose the game. Cowboys did what they had to to win: rushed for over 100, protected Romo, kept the ball out of our hands (T.O.P.), and held on down the stretch. Good on "D"...and shame on us.

Binx · 12-21-2009, 02:04 PM

GOTTA TACKLE somebody.... all this diving at runners' legs and shoulder bumping ... tackle... tackle... tackle....

Joker · 12-21-2009, 04:35 PM

The offensive line had there issues but for the most part the gaurd and center play wasn't that bad. The tackles and running backs are a totally different story, yes we saw Bushrod get beat all night but there were plays that Peirre Thomas was supposed to pick up a blitzing linebacker that was coming up the middle and missed, supposed to chip the defensive end and did nothing. It was pretty much known by all that Bushrod couldn't handle Ware by himself, Where was the Help?

I said this earlier, IMO Shockey was missed more for his blocking ability than his pass catching.

Cruize · 12-21-2009, 04:53 PM

When the Cowboys play up to their abilities, they are a good team. They were playing for their season. Throw in the Saints not playing a good game and you have the outcome. Just like any team in the NFL, if you don't show up, if you turn the ball over and don't create any turnovers, or you simply don't play your best, you can be beat.

Papa Voodoo · 12-21-2009, 05:13 PM

Unbelievable that we've been putting Strief over with Bushrod all season except against Dallas. Big Fat F- on that one Sean

Dinkins and Strief should have been in a lot more once Spencer and Ware fired up.

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Defensive Line	20	25.32%
Quarterback	5	6.33%
Defensive Backfield	18	22.78%
3rd Down execution	13	16.46%
Coaching - Play call	24	30.38%
Runningbacks	4	5.06%
Receivers	8	10.13%
Special Teams	6	7.59%
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12-21-2009, 09:06 AM	#1
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Cowboys 24 Saints 17 where was the breakdown for the Saints? Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper ... hard to win games when you only score 3 points in 3+ quarters. Thank You. Everybody always jumps on the defense. If we score our average point total we win. The O-line was terrible. Thomas missed 2 blitzes and the defender came in untouched. Too many dropped passes and on the Brees interception the whole timing of the play was thrown off from the beginning when Goodwin left the game after being shaken up and leckey came in and the shotgun snap hit Brees in the facemask which cost him a second and threw off his timing an he under threw the ball. Payton should have given help to Bushrod but didn't and we really missed Shockey. We beat Tampa this week and we can rest everyone for 2 weeks to get healthy and we will be fine for the playoffs.

12-21-2009, 06:52 AM	#2
nutria Sac-A-Lait Join Date: May 2006 Location: Prairieville, LA Posts: 262	Re: Cowboys 24 Saints 17 where was the breakdown for the Saints? Bad news--Bushrod needed help with Ware, coaches needed to adjust and they did not. Good News---Demarcus Ware is only on the Cowboys team and if we see him again, hopefully a TE or RB will help Bushrod out. 3rd and 7 and you can't get off the field, you loose the game. Cowgirls wanted it and needed it more than the Saints.

12-21-2009, 08:41 AM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Cowboys 24 Saints 17 where was the breakdown for the Saints? offensive line.... coaching staff... special teams......not hartley and morstead.....but coverage was terrible

12-21-2009, 08:44 AM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,992 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Cowboys 24 Saints 17 where was the breakdown for the Saints? "They simply executed; they executed on our misfortunes. We were out of position on a few plays. They have a really good offense, and they capitalized on our mistakes. Tracy Porter

12-21-2009, 10:25 AM	#5
MATHIUS Leave no doubts Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 316	Re: Cowboys 24 Saints 17 where was the breakdown for the Saints? the difference is right here. the cowboys played like a desperate team who absolutely had to have this win to save their season and dignity. the saints arent desperate and weren't ready to match the cowboys intensity. which is only natural when your being told all week how you're so much better than the cowboys and how they dont stand a chance. naturally the saints came out laid back and not ready for the more focused cowboys. as much as it hurts to say, but its true.
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12-21-2009, 01:00 PM	#6
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Cowboys 24 Saints 17 where was the breakdown for the Saints? We got behind early...AGAIN...and this time the well was dry. After last weeks win, Peyton tried to be what he calls "balanced", rather than taking what was being given, and it backfired. Balance will come because we have so many weapons that open up other parts of our game. We got down and became one dimensional: 45 throws and 11 rushes. There was no protection, no push up front, no pass rush on the other side of the ball, poor tackling: we did everything necessary to lose the game. Cowboys did what they had to to win: rushed for over 100, protected Romo, kept the ball out of our hands (T.O.P.), and held on down the stretch. Good on "D"...and shame on us.
	SaintSince67

12-21-2009, 02:04 PM	#7
Binx Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 7 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Cowboys 24 Saints 17 where was the breakdown for the Saints? GOTTA TACKLE somebody.... all this diving at runners' legs and shoulder bumping ... tackle... tackle... tackle....

12-21-2009, 04:35 PM	#8
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Cowboys 24 Saints 17 where was the breakdown for the Saints? The offensive line had there issues but for the most part the gaurd and center play wasn't that bad. The tackles and running backs are a totally different story, yes we saw Bushrod get beat all night but there were plays that Peirre Thomas was supposed to pick up a blitzing linebacker that was coming up the middle and missed, supposed to chip the defensive end and did nothing. It was pretty much known by all that Bushrod couldn't handle Ware by himself, Where was the Help? I said this earlier, IMO Shockey was missed more for his blocking ability than his pass catching.

12-21-2009, 04:53 PM	#9
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,458	Re: Cowboys 24 Saints 17 where was the breakdown for the Saints? When the Cowboys play up to their abilities, they are a good team. They were playing for their season. Throw in the Saints not playing a good game and you have the outcome. Just like any team in the NFL, if you don't show up, if you turn the ball over and don't create any turnovers, or you simply don't play your best, you can be beat.
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12-21-2009, 05:13 PM	#10
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Cowboys 24 Saints 17 where was the breakdown for the Saints? Unbelievable that we've been putting Strief over with Bushrod all season except against Dallas. Big Fat F- on that one Sean Dinkins and Strief should have been in a lot more once Spencer and Ware fired up.