A couple of injury questions

TheGambler · 12-22-2009, 04:03 PM

Well, Dave Thomas played well in Shockey's absence.......but we REALLY REALLY need Greer back.

D_it_up · 12-22-2009, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Reggie is starting to make Cam Cleeland look like Cal Ripken.

I almost spit my Dr. Pepper out on that one. That was funny.

foreverfan · 12-22-2009, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Reggie is starting to make Cam Cleeland look like Cal Ripken.

LOL... or this dude....

Saint_LB · 12-22-2009, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

I almost spit my Dr. Pepper out on that one. That was funny.

Yeah...he get's off a good one every now and then. I was gonna "lol" too. I just want to know if you made that up or if you stole it...very clever indeed.

9thWardDesire · 12-22-2009, 06:43 PM

Jammal Brown was on IR before the start of the season. Left side of that O-Line had been exposed when D-Ware made Bushrod a turnstile (Much worse that what Chuck Smith used to do to Willie Roaf who, BTW, is a first-ballot H-O-F'er)

Reggie Bush? Status is up in the air.

Do need Greer, Shockey and Ellis back.

From here on out, no game is an EASY game. The only team that can beat the Mighty Saints is the MIGHTY SAINTS!! Saturday against those Cows proved it.

RealDeal37 · 12-23-2009, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Rickh

It's always been hard to get straight answers regarding injuries, but here is what I think I know and what I need to find out.

Greer may be back vs. the Bucs ; anybody heard different

Sedrick Ellis; damn he makes a difference vs. the Run when will he be back

R. Bush; His leg injury didn't look that bad he was stretching out after the play and frankly it would've really helped had he stayed in and offered some semblance of a running game. When will he be back?

Jamal Brown; after Bushrod's performance on Saturday the LT spot feels like a vulnerability. What is his status?

R. Gay; It sure would be nice to have a completely in tact secondary...

If we get these back for the playoffs, I see no reason we won't return to form. These are some big holes the coaches have had to scheme around and the fact that we're 13-1 is a real testament to what they've been doing.

If you guys have any updates I'd appreciate it, especially on Brown who I have found nothing on.

R

*I do understand were ur coming from & how u feel..
What i do know is that R. Bush is NOT gonna play this week & i think thats a good decision. He can play, but they want him 100% for the post season, which makes sence.
Of course, yes Greer will be ready foe the off season, but DON't expect to see him this week, i would expect him to get one more week or so too make sure he is ready. Maybe even let him get i n on a few plays, but not much.
The Bushrod situation is the one single issue that has bothered & pissed me off far more than anything. He was man handled all game. Now, why would u leave him in there against one of the best DE in the game now? On top of that, u leave him in there block'n for Bree's blind side... WTF???

Theres 2 problems i have with that & thats the fact that They did NOT even attempt to fix the issue the whole game, why? Also, & the most serious of it, as much as Bree's was hit & sacked by Ware & other's, wut if Bree;s had got hurt??? We would be screwed... That was just DUMB!!!

We need experience block'n for Bree's on his blind side & move Bushrod to the otherside.
Also, sit Grant's over paid ass & put McCray back in, he's a beast & gives 110% every snap. I believe Big Sed will be good to go for the playoffs.
We should be all good come off season, but we need Greer, Sed & others to atleast get sum play time to get back on track from sit'n so long!!!

Most important to me though... GW needs to get his head outta his ass & bring tha HEAT... He's got'n far too conservative in the second half of season. Im tired of hearing folk's who DON'T know wut tha hell there even talk'n about, say'n that he's not blitzing becuz of our problems at CB. News flash, ive played ball my whole life, pressure creates problems, problems lead to mistakes & mistakes lead to turnover's...
Bring tha F#%K'N HEAT, GW & get with it... We brought u in for ur aggression, not to be friendly... Remember ur moto, KNOCK'm THA F#%K OUT... It's now time to start do'n that again... Let's go!!!

I honestly feel like we'll be fine, though!!!

Speedy Ron · 12-23-2009, 08:18 AM

i think our defensive injuries are the worst ones to overcome. we can play without shockey or bush but we really struggle without greer and ellis

pakowitz · 12-23-2009, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

i think our defensive injuries are the worst ones to overcome. we can play without shockey or bush but we really struggle without greer and ellis

i have to disagree about shockey and bush... while i love D. Thomas... i think he has played over his head this season and shockey really is drews safety valve... we rarely attacked the middle of the field on saturday except on crossing routes and we only used a 1 TE set when we do run a 2 TE set alot... more then u would expect from a wideopen offense... payton loves to run out of that set and both shockey and thomas are good run blockers... his outages really made a difference in the run game and even moreso in the passing game.. we hardly threw the ball deep but just a few times.. u can say it was b/c drew didnt have alot of time but i really believe it was b/c our WRs were covered deep.. this is where shockey comes in... his presence commands the safety to keep an eye on him in the middle and he is often (very often) double covered when drew hits meachem or devery deep.. go back n look at the replays on nfl.com and just watch our deep throws... shockey is almost always pulling a safety from the WR to give em single coverage...

and bush.. while he is either hated or loved by the whodat nation he really does make a difference on the field and u hear it from other teams players and coaches.. im not going to go into as much depth as i did for shockey b/c i dont really need to.. reggie might not be the greatest runner we have but he has been hitting the holes better and his YPA average is way better then what it was the last 4 years and his threat to take it to the house every time he touches it has an impact on defenses, especially when they like to blitz and we run the screen... which we didnt do much of against dallas like i thought we should have done to slow down the pass rush...

strato · 12-23-2009, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

i have to disagree about shockey and bush... while i love D. Thomas... i think he has played over his head this season and shockey really is drews safety valve... we rarely attacked the middle of the field on saturday except on crossing routes and we only used a 1 TE set when we do run a 2 TE set alot... more then u would expect from a wideopen offense... payton loves to run out of that set and both shockey and thomas are good run blockers... his outages really made a difference in the run game and even moreso in the passing game.. we hardly threw the ball deep but just a few times.. u can say it was b/c drew didnt have alot of time but i really believe it was b/c our WRs were covered deep.. this is where shockey comes in... his presence commands the safety to keep an eye on him in the middle and he is often (very often) double covered when drew hits meachem or devery deep.. go back n look at the replays on nfl.com and just watch our deep throws... shockey is almost always pulling a safety from the WR to give em single coverage...

and bush.. while he is either hated or loved by the whodat nation he really does make a difference on the field and u hear it from other teams players and coaches.. im not going to go into as much depth as i did for shockey b/c i dont really need to.. reggie might not be the greatest runner we have but he has been hitting the holes better and his YPA average is way better then what it was the last 4 years and his threat to take it to the house every time he touches it has an impact on defenses, especially when they like to blitz and we run the screen... which we didnt do much of against dallas like i thought we should have done to slow down the pass rush...

And the one time Drew did attack the seam.. Thomas dropped it..

saintsfan1976 · 12-29-2009, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Yeah...he get's off a good one every now and then. I was gonna "lol" too. I just want to know if you made that up or if you stole it...very clever indeed.

You know every once in a while my brain farts out something worthwhile...

I seem to remember saying it and then hearing it again. It just makes too much sense for me to be the only one to think it.

12-22-2009, 04:03 PM	#11
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Re: A couple of injury questions Well, Dave Thomas played well in Shockey's absence.......but we REALLY REALLY need Greer back.
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12-22-2009, 05:02 PM	#12
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: A couple of injury questions Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Reggie is starting to make Cam Cleeland look like Cal Ripken. I almost spit my Dr. Pepper out on that one. That was funny.

12-22-2009, 05:46 PM	#13
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: A couple of injury questions Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Reggie is starting to make Cam Cleeland look like Cal Ripken. LOL... or this dude....

12-22-2009, 05:51 PM	#14
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: A couple of injury questions Originally Posted by D_it_up I almost spit my Dr. Pepper out on that one. That was funny. Yeah...he get's off a good one every now and then. I was gonna "lol" too. I just want to know if you made that up or if you stole it...very clever indeed.
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12-22-2009, 06:43 PM	#15
9thWardDesire The Owner Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA (10/1/13) Posts: 791	Re: A couple of injury questions Jammal Brown was on IR before the start of the season. Left side of that O-Line had been exposed when D-Ware made Bushrod a turnstile (Much worse that what Chuck Smith used to do to Willie Roaf who, BTW, is a first-ballot H-O-F'er) Reggie Bush? Status is up in the air. Do need Greer, Shockey and Ellis back. From here on out, no game is an EASY game. The only team that can beat the Mighty Saints is the MIGHTY SAINTS!! Saturday against those Cows proved it.

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12-23-2009, 08:09 AM	#16
RealDeal37 $aint'z "101" Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Shreveport (Port City), La Posts: 113	Re: A couple of injury questions Originally Posted by Rickh It's always been hard to get straight answers regarding injuries, but here is what I think I know and what I need to find out. Greer may be back vs. the Bucs ; anybody heard different Sedrick Ellis; damn he makes a difference vs. the Run when will he be back R. Bush; His leg injury didn't look that bad he was stretching out after the play and frankly it would've really helped had he stayed in and offered some semblance of a running game. When will he be back? Jamal Brown; after Bushrod's performance on Saturday the LT spot feels like a vulnerability. What is his status? R. Gay; It sure would be nice to have a completely in tact secondary... If we get these back for the playoffs, I see no reason we won't return to form. These are some big holes the coaches have had to scheme around and the fact that we're 13-1 is a real testament to what they've been doing. If you guys have any updates I'd appreciate it, especially on Brown who I have found nothing on. R *I do understand were ur coming from & how u feel.. What i do know is that R. Bush is NOT gonna play this week & i think thats a good decision. He can play, but they want him 100% for the post season, which makes sence. Of course, yes Greer will be ready foe the off season, but DON't expect to see him this week, i would expect him to get one more week or so too make sure he is ready. Maybe even let him get i n on a few plays, but not much. The Bushrod situation is the one single issue that has bothered & pissed me off far more than anything. He was man handled all game. Now, why would u leave him in there against one of the best DE in the game now? On top of that, u leave him in there block'n for Bree's blind side... WTF??? Theres 2 problems i have with that & thats the fact that They did NOT even attempt to fix the issue the whole game, why? Also, & the most serious of it, as much as Bree's was hit & sacked by Ware & other's, wut if Bree;s had got hurt??? We would be screwed... That was just DUMB!!! We need experience block'n for Bree's on his blind side & move Bushrod to the otherside. Also, sit Grant's over paid ass & put McCray back in, he's a beast & gives 110% every snap. I believe Big Sed will be good to go for the playoffs. We should be all good come off season, but we need Greer, Sed & others to atleast get sum play time to get back on track from sit'n so long!!! Most important to me though... GW needs to get his head outta his ass & bring tha HEAT... He's got'n far too conservative in the second half of season. Im tired of hearing folk's who DON'T know wut tha hell there even talk'n about, say'n that he's not blitzing becuz of our problems at CB. News flash, ive played ball my whole life, pressure creates problems, problems lead to mistakes & mistakes lead to turnover's... Bring tha F#%K'N HEAT, GW & get with it... We brought u in for ur aggression, not to be friendly... Remember ur moto, KNOCK'm THA F#%K OUT... It's now time to start do'n that again... Let's go!!! I honestly feel like we'll be fine, though!!!

12-23-2009, 08:18 AM	#17
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	Re: A couple of injury questions i think our defensive injuries are the worst ones to overcome. we can play without shockey or bush but we really struggle without greer and ellis

12-23-2009, 08:41 AM	#18
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: A couple of injury questions Originally Posted by Speedy Ron i think our defensive injuries are the worst ones to overcome. we can play without shockey or bush but we really struggle without greer and ellis i have to disagree about shockey and bush... while i love D. Thomas... i think he has played over his head this season and shockey really is drews safety valve... we rarely attacked the middle of the field on saturday except on crossing routes and we only used a 1 TE set when we do run a 2 TE set alot... more then u would expect from a wideopen offense... payton loves to run out of that set and both shockey and thomas are good run blockers... his outages really made a difference in the run game and even moreso in the passing game.. we hardly threw the ball deep but just a few times.. u can say it was b/c drew didnt have alot of time but i really believe it was b/c our WRs were covered deep.. this is where shockey comes in... his presence commands the safety to keep an eye on him in the middle and he is often (very often) double covered when drew hits meachem or devery deep.. go back n look at the replays on nfl.com and just watch our deep throws... shockey is almost always pulling a safety from the WR to give em single coverage... and bush.. while he is either hated or loved by the whodat nation he really does make a difference on the field and u hear it from other teams players and coaches.. im not going to go into as much depth as i did for shockey b/c i dont really need to.. reggie might not be the greatest runner we have but he has been hitting the holes better and his YPA average is way better then what it was the last 4 years and his threat to take it to the house every time he touches it has an impact on defenses, especially when they like to blitz and we run the screen... which we didnt do much of against dallas like i thought we should have done to slow down the pass rush...
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12-23-2009, 08:49 AM	#19
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: A couple of injury questions Originally Posted by pakowitz i have to disagree about shockey and bush... while i love D. Thomas... i think he has played over his head this season and shockey really is drews safety valve... we rarely attacked the middle of the field on saturday except on crossing routes and we only used a 1 TE set when we do run a 2 TE set alot... more then u would expect from a wideopen offense... payton loves to run out of that set and both shockey and thomas are good run blockers... his outages really made a difference in the run game and even moreso in the passing game.. we hardly threw the ball deep but just a few times.. u can say it was b/c drew didnt have alot of time but i really believe it was b/c our WRs were covered deep.. this is where shockey comes in... his presence commands the safety to keep an eye on him in the middle and he is often (very often) double covered when drew hits meachem or devery deep.. go back n look at the replays on nfl.com and just watch our deep throws... shockey is almost always pulling a safety from the WR to give em single coverage... and bush.. while he is either hated or loved by the whodat nation he really does make a difference on the field and u hear it from other teams players and coaches.. im not going to go into as much depth as i did for shockey b/c i dont really need to.. reggie might not be the greatest runner we have but he has been hitting the holes better and his YPA average is way better then what it was the last 4 years and his threat to take it to the house every time he touches it has an impact on defenses, especially when they like to blitz and we run the screen... which we didnt do much of against dallas like i thought we should have done to slow down the pass rush... And the one time Drew did attack the seam.. Thomas dropped it..

12-29-2009, 05:36 PM	#20
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Re: A couple of injury questions Originally Posted by Saint_LB Yeah...he get's off a good one every now and then. I was gonna "lol" too. I just want to know if you made that up or if you stole it...very clever indeed. You know every once in a while my brain farts out something worthwhile... I seem to remember saying it and then hearing it again. It just makes too much sense for me to be the only one to think it.