What do nyou make of the Viqueen controversey?

the-commish · 12-24-2009, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by DblBogey

Farve and Chilcress . . . Brett Favre of Minnesota Vikings questions Brad Childress over attempt to pull him from game - ESPN

I think there is a big storm brewing here when one player feels he is bigger than his team!

Especially if that one player happens to be 40 years old.

Well, I guess Favre is going to try to eclipse George Blanda's record.

MatthewT · 12-24-2009, 07:18 PM

I don't really have a side on this, I understand why Chilly wanted to bench him, and I see why Favre wanted to stay in. A true leader, like Favre, will take the good with the bad and keep at it like a man. Him not wanting to come out is actually a good sign.

I do agree with Favre being somewhat of a butt hole. The way he treated Green Bay for like four years was just a bit much. Retired, not retired, retired, not retired, I mean, WTF? He even pulled that crap with the Vikings this year and I assume will do it again after the playoffs are over.

Truth be told, he is the main reason the Vikings are 11-3. There is no way TJ or Sage would have them in this position right now. He is the final piece of the puzzle that may win Minnesota a Super Bowl.

DblBogey · 12-24-2009, 10:07 PM

I think it really boils down to Farve's bigger than life ego. It has taken on a life of it's own.

saintsfan1976 · 12-24-2009, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Well, didn't the Vikings go to the playoffs last year?

In re: Madden - I am not talking stats. I am talking the way Madden found a way to mention Farve every single time he had a microphone in front of him, and how he saw everything Farve did as "heroic". Hey, he was the Packers' QB who brought back the Lombardi to Green Bay, the play of everyone around him notwithstanding.

The numbers, when you play that long, you'll get the padded numbers, eventually. But his records are only indicative of how long he's been playing. Granted, that he has been playing 17 years in the NFL is on itself a feat, although 11 years short of George Blanda's record .

There are some records, though, he never got close to, and he never will, like Marino's 5084 yards in a season, or Brady's 50 TD passes, or number of SB rings. If you check this link to NFL passing records , you'll see his name is only associated with records that would take time to accumulate.

I never cared much about Farve, but I really started disliking him after his comments when Aaron Rodgers was drafted.

Did they go to the playoffs last year?? Dammit TR, you and your details... lol

Now you can argue that Favre's records are directly tied to his tenure, BUT: the guy is performing at a higher level than most younger QB's in the league today...despite his age.

Sometimes I think Madden only used the words he really enjoyed saying, like "boom" and "pow" and "gruble guubllele Brett Favre"...

Records aside, the guy is here for one reason and one reason only. Another ring.... (and maybe some attention)

SaintPauly · 12-26-2009, 12:29 AM

But wouldn't you agree 76, that since they have gotten away from the running game, and gone pass happy, they haven't looked as good as they did? Peterson is the key their success, seriously. Now, I just hope they don't listen to me, because I for one am happy they are losing.

Ezekiel · 12-26-2009, 02:54 AM

I think it's been blown way out of proportion. Favre is there to win a Championship. Not be a franchise player. Favre is a vet and isn't going to let some head coach he hardly has a relationship with try and bench him

DblBogey · 12-26-2009, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by Ezekiel

I think it's been blown way out of proportion. Favre is there to win a Championship. Not be a franchise player. Favre is a vet and isn't going to let some head coach he hardly has a relationship with try and bench him

Now that is a novel idea you have come up with Ezekial. What an innovative concept. Fire Childress and make Farve the HC/QB. That is brilliant! I think that might work if you have a QB that feels like he is bigger than the whole team or bigger than the whole of the NFL.

saintsfan1976 · 12-26-2009, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

But wouldn't you agree 76, that since they have gotten away from the running game, and gone pass happy, they haven't looked as good as they did? Peterson is the key their success, seriously. Now, I just hope they don't listen to me, because I for one am happy they are losing.

Teams have adjusted to the Vikings just as they have to the Saints.

Peterson hasn't won games for them like Favre has. Yes, he has 1,200 yards but so do Jones Drew, Stephen Jackson, Thomas Jones and (arguably the best RB in the league right now) Chris Johnson.

Any of those teams making the playoffs???

Now, the real question is if Favre can hold up... It's not looking likely right now.

UK_WhoDat · 12-26-2009, 11:14 AM

Let the Viqueeens continue in controversy. I really don't care. All my energy is for the Saints.

SaintPauly · 12-26-2009, 04:44 PM

Well they stacked the box on AP last season
too, and he still got his yards, and the vikes
made the play offs. That was the point childress
was trying to make. He wants the running game to
continue, even if Brett sees something he doesn't
like at the line.

12-24-2009, 04:22 PM	#21
the-commish Longtime WhoDat Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 529	Re: What do nyou make of the Viqueen controversey? Originally Posted by DblBogey Farve and Chilcress . . . Brett Favre of Minnesota Vikings questions Brad Childress over attempt to pull him from game - ESPN I think there is a big storm brewing here when one player feels he is bigger than his team! Especially if that one player happens to be 40 years old. Well, I guess Favre is going to try to eclipse George Blanda's record.

12-24-2009, 07:18 PM	#22
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: What do nyou make of the Viqueen controversey? I don't really have a side on this, I understand why Chilly wanted to bench him, and I see why Favre wanted to stay in. A true leader, like Favre, will take the good with the bad and keep at it like a man. Him not wanting to come out is actually a good sign. I do agree with Favre being somewhat of a butt hole. The way he treated Green Bay for like four years was just a bit much. Retired, not retired, retired, not retired, I mean, WTF? He even pulled that crap with the Vikings this year and I assume will do it again after the playoffs are over. Truth be told, he is the main reason the Vikings are 11-3. There is no way TJ or Sage would have them in this position right now. He is the final piece of the puzzle that may win Minnesota a Super Bowl.

12-24-2009, 10:07 PM	#23
DblBogey 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 538	Re: What do nyou make of the Viqueen controversey? I think it really boils down to Farve's bigger than life ego. It has taken on a life of it's own.
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12-24-2009, 10:33 PM	#24
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What do nyou make of the Viqueen controversey? Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Well, didn't the Vikings go to the playoffs last year? In re: Madden - I am not talking stats. I am talking the way Madden found a way to mention Farve every single time he had a microphone in front of him, and how he saw everything Farve did as "heroic". Hey, he was the Packers' QB who brought back the Lombardi to Green Bay, the play of everyone around him notwithstanding. The numbers, when you play that long, you'll get the padded numbers, eventually. But his records are only indicative of how long he's been playing. Granted, that he has been playing 17 years in the NFL is on itself a feat, although 11 years short of George Blanda's record . There are some records, though, he never got close to, and he never will, like Marino's 5084 yards in a season, or Brady's 50 TD passes, or number of SB rings. If you check this link to NFL passing records , you'll see his name is only associated with records that would take time to accumulate. I never cared much about Farve, but I really started disliking him after his comments when Aaron Rodgers was drafted. Did they go to the playoffs last year?? Dammit TR, you and your details... lol Now you can argue that Favre's records are directly tied to his tenure, BUT: the guy is performing at a higher level than most younger QB's in the league today...despite his age. Sometimes I think Madden only used the words he really enjoyed saying, like "boom" and "pow" and "gruble guubllele Brett Favre"... Records aside, the guy is here for one reason and one reason only. Another ring.... (and maybe some attention)

12-26-2009, 12:29 AM	#25
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What do nyou make of the Viqueen controversey? But wouldn't you agree 76, that since they have gotten away from the running game, and gone pass happy, they haven't looked as good as they did? Peterson is the key their success, seriously. Now, I just hope they don't listen to me, because I for one am happy they are losing.

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12-26-2009, 02:54 AM	#26
Ezekiel TSH Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1	Re: What do nyou make of the Viqueen controversey? I think it's been blown way out of proportion. Favre is there to win a Championship. Not be a franchise player. Favre is a vet and isn't going to let some head coach he hardly has a relationship with try and bench him
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12-26-2009, 05:29 AM	#27
DblBogey 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 538	Re: What do nyou make of the Viqueen controversey? Originally Posted by Ezekiel I think it's been blown way out of proportion. Favre is there to win a Championship. Not be a franchise player. Favre is a vet and isn't going to let some head coach he hardly has a relationship with try and bench him Now that is a novel idea you have come up with Ezekial. What an innovative concept. Fire Childress and make Farve the HC/QB. That is brilliant! I think that might work if you have a QB that feels like he is bigger than the whole team or bigger than the whole of the NFL.
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12-26-2009, 08:09 AM	#28
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What do nyou make of the Viqueen controversey? Originally Posted by saintpaul25 But wouldn't you agree 76, that since they have gotten away from the running game, and gone pass happy, they haven't looked as good as they did? Peterson is the key their success, seriously. Now, I just hope they don't listen to me, because I for one am happy they are losing. Teams have adjusted to the Vikings just as they have to the Saints. Peterson hasn't won games for them like Favre has. Yes, he has 1,200 yards but so do Jones Drew, Stephen Jackson, Thomas Jones and (arguably the best RB in the league right now) Chris Johnson. Any of those teams making the playoffs??? Now, the real question is if Favre can hold up... It's not looking likely right now.

12-26-2009, 11:14 AM	#29
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,865	Re: What do nyou make of the Viqueen controversey? Let the Viqueeens continue in controversy. I really don't care. All my energy is for the Saints.

12-26-2009, 04:44 PM	#30
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What do nyou make of the Viqueen controversey? Well they stacked the box on AP last season too, and he still got his yards, and the vikes made the play offs. That was the point childress was trying to make. He wants the running game to continue, even if Brett sees something he doesn't like at the line.