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Old 12-30-2009, 04:36 PM   #21
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Old 12-30-2009, 04:58 PM   #22
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Re: Charles Grant mad at Saints fans!

I sit in the endzone next to the tunnel and I didn't hear any booing. I still saw people standing up and giving the players an ovation as they left the field but also if there were fans booing they have every right to. The dome has been sold out since 2006 so pretty much 85% or so of the fans there been having season tickets for at least 4 years. That's a nice chunk of money they have invested in the Saints in such a short time so yes, they have the right to boo when they don't get a quality performance. Myself personally, I didn't boo but I was very disappointed in the Saints 2nd half performance. I have been a season ticket holder for 13 years now driving from Houston to New Orleans and if I decided to boo the team I think I've earned that right.

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Old 12-30-2009, 05:34 PM   #23
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Im the voice of dissent on this one.

I dont boo anyone except kickers. Hell, I think we should boo ourselves for the lackluster noise in the Dome in the 3rd quarter. It looked like a lot of us partied too hard the night before, and noon starts are a bit early for us.

I'm not worried about how much money anybody makes. You know its like the song, "Money for Nothing." You should have learned to play that guitar... Like they do on the MTV..." All of us could have got off our butts, exercised more in high school, and made a million dollars too. It aint Charles Grants fault you cant play.

So, I guess my thinking is different here. I aint tellin nobody what to do, I'm just saying I dont. And the money is irrelevant. If you watch football, you're supporting it.

They're all just people to me. I got a kid playing football, I played myself, and when you know what they go thru, it gives you a different perspective. Every guy out there is somebody's kid. When my kid plays, you'd better not shout stuff at him, or you're gonna have a problem.


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Old 12-30-2009, 05:44 PM   #24
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CG probably knows, having been in NOLA so long, there are a lot of good supportive Saints fans who are classy. He was just calling out that small minority that are passive/aggressive and making remarks like that. I don't have a problem with it.
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Old 12-30-2009, 06:20 PM   #25
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I played and had both knees reconstructed. I have that inner perspective and I still think Charles is wrong. He can't do my job and I can't do his but by NO MEANS is his job any more important or stressful than ours. If Grant doesn't agree with that lets see what his thinking is when a fireman has to run INTO a burning building to save him and his family.

For 40+ years the swell had built up to the Tampa game for HFA and they didn't close it out. Kinda like punching a hole in a dam...lots of emotions poured out of everyone. Charles should understand that to some degree. It wasn't for the Wildcard game or an 8-8 record.

I don't want us to win the Superbowl just for myself this year. I want the Saints to win it for my deceased Grandfather who had season tickets since they became a franchise and they ALWAYS lost. I want them to win for my dad who religiously brought us to watch the Saints lose.

I want them to win for my friends who loved the Saints and wanted to see this come to fruition and have passed on. I want them to win because of the dozens of heart breaking losses we have supported our team through.

I want them to win for coming so close in '06. This is the time for the team to fight with every ounce of their being on every play and win a championship.

We have always supported our team. We will always support our team. But, damnit, they lose by not giving their all in the most important game the Saints ever palyed and we have every right to let loose on them. Saints fans have paid their dues and then some brother, believe that.
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Old 12-30-2009, 07:21 PM   #26
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Lack of concentration. We were so close from winning that game. They needed to lose. Hopefully they'll learn a lesson. I don't think it's out of line to boo but saying "You f@#$@ suck" is imo.
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Old 12-30-2009, 08:08 PM   #27
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I played and had both knees reconstructed. I have that inner perspective and I still think Charles is wrong. He can't do my job and I can't do his but by NO MEANS is his job any more important or stressful than ours. If Grant doesn't agree with that lets see what his thinking is when a fireman has to run INTO a burning building to save him and his family.....
I agree that his job is not any more important, in fact probably less important. I was addressing the "but he makes a lot of money" argument.

His job pays what it pays, thats the market--and until we all boycott football, they're gonna make those checks. I think their salaries are ridiculous too, but it doesnt pre-empt their humanity. Tiger Woods is human. I like him better knowing he is.

Kids in India making shoes for Nike think Firemen are overpaid, but no one stands outside burning buildings waiting to boo the firemen when they are unable to save somebody. "What do you mean you couldnt take the heat from that fire, you make ___ dollars!" "Boo, you &%$#!@ suck!" We should do this to doctors and lawyers. I never saw Grant say he thinks he's more important than you or me.

Every time Charles Grant lines up, a very large, talented, possibly angry man is lined up against him, and probably hits him in the privates whenever possible. Im guessing he tries hard on every play. I saw him in Mississippi, and he sure does sweat a lot. Just my observation.

But you know, I want the same things you want, and for the same people. I want the Saints to win for your grandfather, for Archie, for my friend who lost his house in Katrina, for the poor lady who sells pralines on LaSalle, for people in Shreveport who love the Saints and hear crap from Cowboy fans, for every little kid who got their heart broken following them, for the awesome people in MS who sat in the heat at TC, and the list goes on... I want us all to have a great celebration. This is my goal.

Im just not sure yelling blasphemies at the guys we're supposed to be rooting for is gonna help us reach that goal. Thats what the coaches are for. But I support your right to boo, or yell "you suck" if you want to.

We have been supporting the franchise for years, indeed, but bear in mind, most of these guys werent born when we 1st started watching the Saints. They're basically kids. ...and they're somebody's baby. Money doesnt change that.


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Old 12-30-2009, 08:19 PM   #28
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"Charles Grant mad at Saints fans!"

well since most saints fans are mad at charles grant id say that just about makes us square. hes probably drowning himself in ice cream to cope. man up nancy boy.
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Old 12-30-2009, 08:29 PM   #29
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"nancy boy.
LOL

I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT IN A LONG LONG TIME!!!

Personally I never boo. I just love my teams one way or another. I also don't do anything to people who boo. That's me, I know everyone feels different.

The only time I'll actually say something is when the athletes are amateurs, which means up to College, and I'll say something to people who boo kids and stuff. I think it sucks when people boo LSU etc. Beyond that, no opinion.

I do think people yelling "bleeping bleeps" suck. We have great fans but, as with any team or city, we have our garbage!!!!

Then again, I don't do anything about it.

I guess I'm the devils' advocate... great discussion on all sides.

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Old 12-30-2009, 09:25 PM   #30
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I'm just curious... Have any of you ever worked in the entertainment business? I reallize this is a sporting event, but the NFL is essentially a form of entertainment. The reason I ask is, have you ever went to see a band, and the sucked? How many boos did you hear in the audience? From people that couldn't play a guitar if they tried, or sing, or play drums, or any other musical instrument, other than a kazoo.

Saw a terrible comedian, an awful play, or movie? Was anyone booing, or yelling stuff then? My point is, that I'll bet that no one here, downing the people that did this stuff, hasn't done one of these things, at some point in their life.

I am a huge Nicholas Cage fan. I am also a huge marvel comics fan. So when I went and shelled out the cash at the theater, to see Ghostrider, you can imagine what I was saying while I was walking out. If Mr. Cage had been there, I would have probably called him a few names myself! That doesn't mean, that I am going to stop watching his movies, because of that one immense turd of a movie. And I don't remember him coming out crying about how everyone thought it sucked.

I'm sure someone is going to say that these two things have nothing to do with each other, but if you really look at it, they are exactly the same. And I have been booed before, and called names, because I've been a musician all my life. Did I stop doing it, because people didn't like it? No. But on the flip side of the coin here, if I didn't like people's abuse, because they didn't like what I did on stage, I also had the option to quit. Right?

What's popular is not always right, and what's right is not always popular.....
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