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Delhomme throws ineterception and smiles aferwards. What's up with that?

Maybe he smiles because it was a touchdown?

While I am not an AB basher........he probly learned that from AB.......he seemed to smile every time that happened.

Ok so he redeems himself with a game winning drive.

From the Panthers site to you Billy :P

Delhomme means \"the man\" in French, and Jake was just that in leading the Panthers to a come-from-behind 24-23 victory over the Jaguars.

Hey Billy, take a look at this:

Comp %: Delhomme 60%, Brooks 65% - advantage Brooks
Yards Per Attempt: Delhomme 6.1, Brooks 6 - we\'ll call it a wash
Yards Per Completion: Delhomme 10.2, Brooks 9.25 - Advantage Delhomme
TD/INT Ratio: Delhomme 3:2, Brooks 1:1 - Advantage Delhomme
Fumbles Lost: Delhomme 0, Brooks 1 - Advantage Delhomme
Win/Loss: Delhomme W, Brooks L - Advantage Delhomme

Brooks has better receivers and a better RB... what\'s the story with THAT?

Just thought I\'d move this to the top, because this will be interesting come tommorrow.

I am sure this is the one Saintsfan wants to checkout .

http://start.real.com/rd?pid=nfl_rbn...textheight=275

[Edited on 8/9/2003 by saintz08]

And are ya really surprised? If Delhomme can come in AT THE HALF and pull off a win after being handed a 17 POINT DEFECIT... I wonder what he could have done at the half AGAINST the Panthers... Or the Vikings... Or the Bengals...

I didn\'t have to wait to see the Saints game to get pissed off again. I was pissed off as soon as I saw that comeback. He came in, and all of a sudden the team came together. Davis started getting holes from the o-line and using them effectively. He brought the intangibles. He brought leadership. He brought confidence. He brought hope.

But look at the bright side. If we go 1-15 we can draft Eli Manning next year... Then we can trade Donte Stallworth and release Joe Horn so he has no one to throw to. Then we can go 1-15 again and draft a good rookie WR. Then by the time he gets good we can trade Eli Manning, forcefeed a 50 year old Doug Flutie enough geritol drag his ass out on the field, and wonder why we lose.

AAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

While the majority will not bash Brokks, I must admit that I have at times bashed Brooks.
Remembering back 2-3 weeks ago, I posted a note saying Delhomme may not have been ready to start based on limited playing time, it was stated that we will rue the day we let him go. I don\'t was to play Nostradamus, but......

Unfortunately, I\' starting to think we gave Carolina the wrong guy.

I won\'t take anything away from Jake. He was helped by a tremendous running game yesterday, and he also tossed some VERY ill advised passes...passes that would have had Whodat and \"08\" screaming for the backup if the back of his jersey said \"Brooks\". One of those ill advised \"almost\" interceptions would have cost his team the game had the Jacksonville DB not dropped the ball.

Having said that, I must also say that if not for Jake Carolina would surely have lost that game. We\'ll see how well he fares once the league gets a good look at him. Time will tell, and I hope he does well.

Again, we agree. Delhomme did make some dangerous throws yesterday. I believe that part of that stemmed from him playing with a \"I\'ve got nothing to lose\" mentality. I think he just came out slinging. I mean, they were down by 17 I think and the starter got yanked. He was tossing it around with wild abandon just like Brooks did way back in 2000 when Blake got hurt. And just like Brooks calmed down when he was named the starter for good, I think the same will happen with Delhomme. One note, when Brooks was playing like that, running around just trying to make any play he could, he certainly didn\'t have a 60% completion percentage very often... not comparing, just saying that Delhomme was still pretty efficient despite those couple of dangerous passes.

As expected ...

Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:22:46 -0700

KFFL has learned the Carolina Panthers have named QB Jake Delhomme as their starting quarterback. He replaces QB Rodney Peete, who has been dropped to second string.

Kirwan on Delhomme ...

In my opinion, the \"Call of the Week\" was the decision by Panthers head coach John Fox to bench starting quarterback Rodney Peete in favor of Jake Delhomme at halftime after Peete led the team to four wins in the last five games last year and completed 58.5 percent of his passes. That\'s a hard call! But the pep talk Delhomme gave the team and the 24-point rally to beat the Jaguars was great.
The decision and Delhomme\'s performance inspired the team to go on and win the game 24-23. As one former Saints executive who was with Delhomme in New Orleans said to me last winter, \"If I had to start up a franchise, I\'d go get Delhomme off the Saints roster and build the thing around him.\"
Those words rang in my ears as I watched him usher in the Delhomme era in Carolina. When you consider what Denver paid for Jake Plummer and Chicago paid for Kordell Stewart, this kid is a bargain! With just two NFL starts in his career and neither one since 1999 in mop-up duty, he breathed life into this franchise instantly. He\'s a natural leader and his speech to the team as they hit the field with 30 minutes to play is the kind of stuff only star players can do.
You know I counted almost 10 teams that had questions about their quarterback situation before this weekend, and Carolina was not one of them. Yet, when coach Fox made the call to bench Peete after he went four of 10 for 19 yards in the first half, and Delhomme came in and went 12 of 20 and connected on three touchdown passes, he probably solved their quarterback situation for the long haul. What could be better on the first Sunday of the NFL season?

Rest of the article: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/6624565
Alright, that was one 30 minutes of football. Brunell was 17 of 18 in the first half against a much feared Panthers defense. I have the distinct feeling Kirwan and some others - the paid folks, not posters on this board - who are now jumping on the bandwagon are going to eat their words at the end of the season.

\"He\'s a natural leader...\"

nuff said.

Waited til we got some write ups and some other comments for this thought .

Certainly the end of 2002 has left a bitter taste in my mouth as well as others . But one point could not be legitamately made til now , Haslett was wrong in assuming Delhomme could not go out and start 3 games , when Brooks was injured . Delhomme certainly had a better understanding of the offense in New Orleans , then he has in Carolina . And with the come from behind victory over Jacksonville in one half he has shown he has the ability to lead a team to victory .

Jake Delhomme , may never prove he is the greatest quarterback in the world .

Jake Delhomme has only proven he had the ability to win those 3 games . The decision to put him in to do that , rather then playing an injured player was that of Hasletts .

Would Pro Bowl players questioning the coaches decisions be a locker room distraction ????

Quick to praise your boy Delhomme arent\' ya 08. How you figure he has proved he could win three games when he\'s only won one. I\'m not saying he can\'t. I\'m just wondering what kind of rediculos logic you\'re using here.

Obviously not as quick as you read the post , or may I say did not read it ???

Haslett was wrong in assuming Delhomme could not go out and start 3 games , when Brooks was injured .

It reads Billy - Start 3 games . Not win 3 games ..............

Glasses might help you see things a little clearer .......

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Jake Delhomme has only proven he had the ability to win those 3 games . The decision to put him in to do that , rather then playing an injured player was that of Hasletts .

I don\'t think I need glasses at all. How has he proven he could win those games? He won one game. What if he bombs next week. I watched that whole game and Jake made some good throws but he made some terrible throws that almost cost the team the game. Again, I ask you how much does one game prove?

Interesting ....

Since when does proving you have the ability to win a game .

And \"How has he proven he could win those games?\" as you said . Have anything in common ??

Proving you have the ability Billy , and proving you can win the game are two different things .

To prove Jake Delhomme could win those games Billy , Jake Delhomme would have had to have been in those games .... Kinda the point of the post ;)

saintz08 -- I think any QB that is in the NFL has the ability to win. John Fourcade looked like superman for a while. You guys amuse me. One game into the season and Delhomme is franchise QB. The Sanits suck. Huston is a contender. Miami looks pathetic. Wonder how long all of this is going to last? Well, it\'s good for a few laughs anyway.

Things have a way of changing mighty quick in the NFL. This Saints offense is way too talented to be kept down for long. You haven\'t heard the last from Aaron Brooks or those great receivers we have. Deuce didn\'t have his best game by far but he will though. Add in Ernie Conwell and that\'s an offense that I like. Jump aboard the Delhomme express. I think you\'re gonna find out that Delhomme and that Carolina offense ain\'t that good.

The Saints defense didn\'t play all that bad yesterday. They got put back on the field time and time again. Turnovers put them in some bad situations -- don\'t forget that. There\'s a lot of room for improvement and a lot of time left for these guys to get on the same page.

We started out 6-1 last year and that didn\'t tell us much about how the season was going to end. If we\'re going to struggle, I\'d rather it be now and come on strong down the line.

Keep on telling us how Aaron can\'t read defenses and how terrible the play calling is. I\'ll keep listening to Smitty\'s dog, cause he\'s making much more sense this early in the season.

I would certainly hope with all the talent surrounding Brooks on offense that by season end they will do better then their current ranking .

30. New Orleans Saints (0-1): Bad defense we understand, but scraping together only 10 points against Seattle?

I don\'t know where you\'re getting your rankings at 08, but NFL.com has the saints offense ranked at #6. But, hey don\'t let facts get in your way of proving a point.

Fox sports ......

Similar to an ESPN ranking system .

Interesting to see how other perceive the Saints ....

Enjoy....

Wow, Billy came into a discussion and totally diverted the topic by telling everyone how wrong they are. What a surprise. That was totally out of character... *sigh*

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BillyCarpenter1 wrote:
Quick to praise your boy Delhomme arent\' ya 08. How you figure he has proved he could win three games when he\'s only won one. I\'m not saying he can\'t. I\'m just wondering what kind of rediculos logic you\'re using here.

Hmm, so a QB that has won only one game should be assumed to lose the next 15 because he hasn\'t won them yet? That logic is as rediculous as your spelling.

08\'s only flaw in using the word \"proven\" was not in his accuracy, but in opening the door for more typical silly, argumentative, BC semantics. You have told us we are wrong so many times, we understand this by now. I am wrong, and my opinion is stupid and flawed. When I need to know the real deal I will ask you. But don\'t hold your breath waiting. Wait, on second thought, do. Now if you will let us finish the discussion in peace (Fat chance of that I am sure)...

The point was this. If Haslett, you, or anybody else continues to deny Haslett made the wrong call by not letting JD sub for AB for even just half of ANY of the last 3 games we played in 2002 your in total denial and not worth conversing with. Well, some people (I won\'t name names, you know who you are Billy. Oops) aren\'t worth conversing with anyway. We didn\'t go to the playoffs last year because Haslett dropped the ball. Period. End of discussion.

Memnoch -- Good morning buddy. Been a while. I see you\'re looking for a little trash talking but you\'re still not a worthy opponent.

Now, as far as putting Jake Delhomme in last year -- Looking back maybe Haz should have but Jake in. Maybe he should have done a lot of things differently last year. But he shouldn\'t have put Delhomme in because he had a good game against the Jaguars, since that game hadn\'t been played yet. Furthermore, while all of you are ready to appoint Jake as the second coming of Joe Montana, I\'ll be keeping a close eye on y\'alls boy and I\'ll let him get his first NFL start under his belt before I jump on the Delhomme express.

YouÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢re correct. He shouldnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢t have put Delhomme into the game last year based on a game that hadnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢t been played yet. What he should have based it on was the upset win against the Cowboys the last time Jake startedÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦
This is a dead issue. Jake is gone and heÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s not coming back. The only reason to follow his progress is to point out one of the many mistakes the coaching staff has made, if that is your intention.

Saints feed fans gumbo of familiar misery
Tuesday September 09, 2003

Dave Lagarde

SEATTLE -- Let\'s dispense the good news first.

It can\'t get any worse.

That\'s what the populace is thinking out loud in Miami and Chicago and Cincinnati and Green Bay and Dallas and St. Louis and New England. And yes, that\'s New Orleans\' mantra as well after the Saints seasons changed and the unsettling problems of 2002 persisted, despite an extensive roster overhaul.

Lose the season opener and it\'s Blue Monday no matter the locale.

Play uninspired football and get embarrassed (think Saints, Bears, Patriots and Bengals). Bingo! It\'s a recipe for instant over-the-top doom and gloom.

Yes, the Saints, who think like contenders rather than play like contenders, had company in their misery Monday. But that\'s no comfort when a new season dawns and the Saints can\'t produce sunshine in Seattle.

Granted, it isn\'t the end of the world. It\'s simply the end of the first week of the 2003 season. But it does place great import on game two against Houston.

And if the opaque darkness remains, if the Saints refuse to raise their level of performance, New Orleans will be one sullen place to dwell next week and the weeks after that.

See, losing the first game of the 2003 season would be infinitely easier for the Saints to explain if they hadn\'t done it in the same disturbing manner as they did in 2002, squandering the last three games of the season with a playoff berth hanging in the balance on each Sunday.

The team that the Seahawks defeated 27-10 looked unnervingly similar to last season\'s outfit, beating itself with turnovers, poor tackling and penalties as much as teams with losing records -- the Vikings, Bengals and Panthers -- beat them down the stretch. That more than anything else should be cause for alarm in coaches\' meetings and the locker room.

But it\'s time to turn the page on Seattle. It\'s time for the Saints to step up to the microphone and sing a redemption song Sunday against 1-0 Houston, which had a lot to do with the nauseatingly sick feeling permeating South Florida on Monday.

The second-year Texans traveled to Miami, where the Dolphins never lose in September, and made them sleep with the fishes as a 14-point underdog. One would think Week No. 1\'s most shocking upset grabbed the Saints\' attention.

There were quite a few eye-catching opening-day performances. Among them:

-- The Colts won with defense, an item sure to make Peyton Manning a happy quarterback.

-- Ex-Patriots Drew Bledsoe and Lawyer Milloy took great delight in helping Buffalo squash New England like a bug on a racing car\'s windshield.

-- Kansas City running back Priest Holmes returned from a hip injury many thought to be career-threatening with a vengeance, savaging San Diego in a resounding Chiefs\' victory. He rushed for two touchdowns and led the Chiefs in receptions, rushing yards and receiving yards.

-- And Carolina came back from a 17-0 halftime deficit to beat Jacksonville.

The guy orchestrating the Panthers\' Lazarus act was none other than Jake Delhomme, the quarterback the Saints brain trust refused to play down the stretch last season despite the fact that it was obvious Aaron Brooks\' performance was hampered by a shoulder injury that required offseason surgery.

When last seen in New Orleans, Delhomme was completing seven of eight passes for 103 yards in relief of Brooks on Dec. 8. Incidentally, the Saints defeated the Ravens that day for their ninth and final victory of 2002.

The final three losses made it easy for Delhomme to discern Brooks would have to lose a limb or two before he might get another chance with the Saints. So he took Carolina\'s money, ran to Charlotte and created a buzz.

\"If I wanted to be a backup, I\'d be wherever New Orleans is playing. This is the reason I came here,\" Delhomme told the assembled Carolina media Sunday after he directed the biggest comeback in franchise history.

Delhomme was far from perfect. He completed 12 of 20 passes for 122 yards and threw two interceptions. But those misses and two picks were perfectly acceptable for a quarterback who produced 24 points in 30 minutes, guided his team to 206 second-half yards and deftly made the biggest play of all, a 12-yard touchdown pass to Ricky Proehl on a fourth-and-11 with 16 seconds remaining.

So in effect, Delhomme\'s career is just starting. Meanwhile Saints fans are cringing as they wonder, is it starting all over again?

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Just took out the from our advertiser and moved things up to save space.

[Edited on 9/9/2003 by JOESAM2002]