Check out what Jason Whitlock thinks about the Saints
 

His comment is in the #5 and his ranking of Drew Breese is nuts

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I lose more, and more respect for the media, every year. These guys were everyone, sitting on top of our n#ts, for the first 13 weeks of the season. We lose to the cowboys, and it's every man or woman for themselves. They call themselves "sports experts", and ninety percent of the time they are wrong. They should stick to reporting the FACTS, and leave the speculation to Madame Cleo. I've watched football, pretty much my entire life. Does that make me an expert? Hell no. The difference between me and them is, that I know it, and acknowledge it. Get an honest job you bums.

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Thats typical media for you. And if a team that gets no love from the media ends up winning it all they say this team had it in them all along and more BS. Thats why fans make sports better. Not the media

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I truly agree with you both. When we played the eagles no one thought we would win, then when we did it was because McNabb was not playing, then we played the Giants and again the same thing and again there was a reason we won, not because we were better but because someone was not playing that would have helped beat us. Then the big game against the Pats, hmmmmm again we won and big and now according to most media outlets we were just lucky. I wonder what they would say when not IF but WHEN we win the SB.

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Whitlock should be witless. What a redneck

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I don't see anything wrong with what Whitlock said or his rankings. He's saying the NFC is unpredictable and it could be anyone's game. He's rooting for the Eagles, whom he picked prior to the season. What's wrong with that?

As far as the rankings are concerned, if he had his top 5 that way, I don't have a problem with it. Peyton hands down is probably everyone's top pick. This league is all about "what have you done for me lately"... Rivers and Johnson have been tearing it up while Drew has been a little slump. I don't see why anyone would see that as a slap in the face towards Drew and Saints fans. Would it make that big of a difference if he was ranked 2nd or 3rd as opposed to 4th? There's no consolation prize. I don't see why there needs to be drama over this.

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No drama here, its just about respect and the lack of respect that the Saints get. I will admit that for years we didn't deserve it but to say he never believed in the Saints even after going 13-0 are you kidding me?

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I like Whitlock as a person, but he, of course, is often hugely full O Crap. He does say things and ask questions that question the politically correct, (those who follow him know what I'm talking about) and he even admits to liking Brett Favre, which takes courage these days. I dont think he goes where he goes for shock value. I even wrote him a tough, but civil email once, when he said Katrina would not make the Saints "interesting." He ate those words. But he doesnt deserve the insane hate he gets in the comments section. I'd have a beer with him. ...and argue for hours.

1. He's crying about the late NFL season. Its simple-- whoever wins the most gets to do whatever they want. Whoever wins is declared the winner, and then goes on to play more winners, who play on the field to determine a champion.

Unlike college ball, which is exciting and colorful, but insists on showing me the Muffler Bowl featuring Barbazon School of Modeling vs. Diesel Driving Academy, who compiled a perfect 10-0 record, but cant get recognized. DDA is favored to beat BSM, whom Texas also played and beat 94-0. A computer decides the champion-- yay!

2. Drew brees behind Philip Rivers??? astronomically possible. Chris Johnson? no way in hell.

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Don't get me wrong Papz, I agree with the unpredictable NFC. And my statements aren't completely directed towards him. My problem is with these "BANDWAGON SPORTS REPORTERS". That's right, bandwagon. It seems like whoever wins, week to week, all the sudden they all jump on, talking about how great they are, and how they are the team to beat. Just like when Arizona beat the holy heck outta Minnesota, the next day, "the team to beat in the NFC is Arizona, hands down!" Until they lost to San Francisco, the very next week, then all the sudden, "they are in trouble".

I just think alot of this analysis is not only a bag of crap, but completely unnecessary. That's why I have stopped watching ESPN as much, and turned to NFL Network. They do analysis, but they keep it within reason.

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You know what

Jason Whitlock, sir, you are the media.
and also tie a significant portion of media pay to detailed factual serious thought provoking journalism
meaning you can't predict the winners of the playoffs. Well nor can I.
Feeling is mutual mate. And that was easy journalism wasn't it. No real reasons given, just that 'I don't believe' :doh: Truth is he wants to see his early prediction get right.

BTW - did the guy explain his MVP ballot?

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You nailed it. They're really no different than fashion/style reporters.

"oh the latest thing? Yes, its HOT!"

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Then with that Paul, Whitlock is still behind his preseason pick... but I see your point about the general media. It's been like that since forever and it'll never change. It's so standard these days I just don't see why one would frustrate oneself over something so nit picky.

This is just my opinion on the MVP voting... besides DeSean Jackson being there (you can see why Whitlock put him there because he's an Eagles fan), I honestly feel everyone behind Manning are interchangeable. If he would have completely snubbed Brees out of his top 5, I'd probably hold some resentment towards him... but he didn't.

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Some one pays this IDIOT !!!

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It is what it is. If Drew wins the SB this year...he will be higher rated next year. If he falters...it will be more of the same.

The Saints won the NFC regular season tourney. (1st time for this, I believe) Nobody can ever take that away from them. Now, they need to win the playoff tourney...and an MVP for Drew would work wonders for his resume. All the talk in the world regarding straightening people out on how good we are is simply that...talk. We need to prove it on the field...it's that simple.

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In a couple of posts this guy is called a reporter. He is not.

He is just another writer in a very long line that spouts his opinions like a drunk at a bar, just trying to start an argument.

Look in the same article what he wrote about Meyer. I don't like Florida, but even I can see how disrepectful that piece is. And when did 'reporters' start writing about who they hope would win?

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I'm having a hard time arguing with his statement that he never really believed in the Saints. How can I? There have been quite a few games this year where we only played good ball for half the game, or we got really lucky when it mattered most. While it was happening a lot of people said, "that's what good teams do" and I would agree with that. If you don't follow the Saints as much as we do, you might not feel the same way.

I would also offer that good teams don't fold down the stretch and that's exactly what our Saints have done for the last month. When it mattered and we needed the win, we couldn't pull it out. That's enough to cast doubt on our team for anyone who's not blinded by homerism.

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Whitlock the Wack.....he never makes much sense..just a big hot air bag ..that gets paid to spew his garbage...i hate when he fills in for Rome..he always tries to seem smarter than his listeners..Oh well we win the superbowl and we shut all these wackjobs up...

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I like his articles. Everyone else beats the same drum and repeats the same lines. At least he gives a different perspective. He definatly make an entertaining read.

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Well the Onion can be entertaining too... sometimes.

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the guys a moron. implying that urban was quitting football because he's a sore loser? give me a break! has he not heard the 911 calls from his wife where he's past out on the floor?

if he thinks for 1 SECOND, that the florida head coaching job is any less stressful than that of the president of the united states 1) he's never been to gainsville 2) he knows nothing of florida's fans and boosters fanaticism and the expectations that go along w/ having that job 3) he knows nothing about florida football 4) he's a moron (ok, thats more of an opinion, not a fact).

dumb nagger.

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Why does anybody even pay attention to this moron. He doesn't usually have anything useful to say. What he does have to say is usually negative or racial. I'm sick of Jason Whitlock.

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Sports media are mostly fickle and only know how to react....like a lot of fans:)

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I will offer that we needed to beat teams like Philly, NY, (both of them), Atlanta, and NE to prove to people that we are real and can beat teams with winning records...and to position ourselves to be able to rest at the end of the season while others scramble. (although all the scrambling is over, for the most part)

I don't see how we could have lost any games that mattered and still come out as number one seed. It would appear to me that we won all of the games that mattered up to this point.

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That is some mean rationalization you got going on there. Hindsight makes you right, but prior to knowing that Minny would also fold down the stretch the Dallas game was important. We needed that win. We lost. Because we lost to Dallas and also because Minny lost that weekend, the Tampa game became important. We win that game against a 2-12 team and we own HFA. We lost again, but once again Minny choked against the pathetic Bears and we got HFA anyway. We backed into HFA, we didn't win it. We needed to have Minny help us (by choking as spectacularly as we did) to get HFA. We didn't win it.

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FF it sounds like you're the one rationalizing. If we didn't win HFA, then exactly how do we have it? Would we have HFA if we were 6-9? or 3-12?

Every game a team plays in the regular season contributes to them making the playoffs and their playoff seeding. It's a rationalization to think that because the team didn't actually win the week that HFA was secured that securing HFA wasn't valid.

By all accounts the Saints should not have won either the Miami or Washington games, but they did. By all accounts they should have won last week. But they didn't.

The order of the record isn't important. If it were then only December wins would determine if you get into the playoffs. Wins in September, October, and November are just as valid. And in those months the Saints secured 13 wins to secure HFA.

It's all water under the bridge now. It doesn't matter how you get there. It only matters what you do when you get there.

And just to reiterate, "there" isn't what happens tomorrow. Whether the Saints win or lose, sit players or play them, play well or not, nothing about tomorrow's game is relevant to the overall discussion or goal. Tomorrow isn't a must win, a statement game, a "get the MoJo back", or whatever. It's completely, absolutely, and irrevocably irrelevant.

The only game that matters now is the one that happens the weekend of January 16th. The one that the Saints secured by winning 13 games this season. Which to remind everyone is a feat that this organization has never accomplished in its history.

The goal of any NFL organization is to win every playoff game it is in each season.

Playoff games are the only relevant games now. You only play regular season games to get into and get seeded for the playoffs. The Saints are already there.

SFIAH

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Wow...I coulda swore I read somewhere that the Saints had HFA throughout the playoffs...

Seriously...when it was all said and done...we did what we needed to do to be the # 1 seed. Disecting how we went about doing it is a little ticky-tacky, IMO. It's something we've never achieved before, so therefore, I am going to be proud of it and give them the benefit of the doubt on these last few games that, in the end, proved to be meaningless.

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Jason Whitlock is the Skip Bayless of internet 'reporting'. He never actually reports anything, merely spouts stuff that will peeve off people to draw attention to himself.

Sadly, more often then not, it works...just like Bayless.

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JW is a BIG FAT TOOL!

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that is all

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Re: #5: He's justified to feel that. As much as we believe the Saints will regain their top form for the playoffs, they have not shown anything in the last 4 games to make a non-Saints fan believe.

Edit: not ranking Drew Brees #1 or #2 is absurd, however. Philip Rivers and Chris Johnson cannot compare to what Brees has accomplished and the leader his is.

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I don't know about absurd. Statistically speaking, they're all neck and neck... each has outstanding numbers. If you were to measure individual importance, they each mean everything to their team. Now Johnson being a running back, maybe... just maybe you could downplay him some due to Brees and Rivers both being quarterbacks... but that's all subjective to one's preference.