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cargojon 01-11-2010 08:20 AM

Larry Fitzgerald push-offs
 
Was I the only one to notice on at least 2 of Fitz's catches in the GB game, the obvious push-offs he's been getting away with? I hope that crap doesn't wash on Saturday.

On a side-note - that Rogers "fumble" was actually an interception...Rogers arm was moving forward and the ball never hit the ground. I wish these announcers and analysts would get it right.

UK_WhoDat 01-11-2010 08:58 AM

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It did happen.

Guess it can work out both ways. If some judge is too lenient then our guys will have to take advantage too - but only if they need to. Bit of a bummer though on our secondary.

exile 01-11-2010 09:04 AM

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Yeah Fitz is famous for pushoffs. He'll get his share of catches. Their WR crew is crazy good. And their QB isn't bad either ;). It will be interesting to see if our healthy secondary can keep up.

QBREES9 01-11-2010 09:23 AM

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What about the face mask at the end of the game ? where was that call.

JoanieNTX 01-11-2010 09:24 AM

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Thinking our guys need to practice "acting" moves against Fitz then! Exaggerated falls the other direction when he pushes off. Use his cr*p against him!

cargojon 01-11-2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 190909)
What about the face mask at the end of the game ? where was that call.

What some are saying is that the facemask occurred after the "fumble" but as far as I'm concerned is doesn't matter.

The reason the "fumble vs. interception" distinction is important is because roughing the passer can be called to negate an interception, but once a fumble has occurred, all bets are off with the QB and roughing.

I like Fitz, but if I see him pulling that push off crap against our guys I'll be steamed if he gets away with it. Especially if they call an OPI on us at some point during the game.

skymike 01-11-2010 05:51 PM

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sure looked like it to me on the last Fitz TD. I try not to whine about refs, but I gave the Refs a hat trick on that one .

1. holding (not called)
2. Fitz pushed off
3. BS "roughing passer" call .

G504 01-11-2010 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by skymike (Post 191081)
sure looked like it to me on the last Fitz TD. I try not to whine about refs, but I gave the Refs a hat trick on that one .

1. holding (not called)
2. Fitz pushed off
3. BS "roughing passer" call .

Yeah, I agree. Arizona got some "home cookin'" as Hokie would say. But now they have to come to our house. So let's see the refs get away with more than 2 BS calls with 72,000 Saints fans booing loudly as the Jumbo-tron replays it over and over, and Payton gives that infamous "how could you not call that?" scowl.

spkb25 01-11-2010 07:27 PM

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Man I hope and pray the game is called well both ways. I can't stomach terrible calls over and over. Contrary to what seems to be popular belief- I do not like the term got to let them play. That usually includes defensive pass interference- something Carolina has been known to get away with

strato 01-11-2010 07:27 PM

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Its because he's Fitz..starpower favortism....somebody needs to just knock the snot out of him..and make him see stars...

spkb25 01-11-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JoanieNTX (Post 190910)
Thinking our guys need to practice "acting" moves against Fitz then! Exaggerated falls the other direction when he pushes off. Use his cr*p against him!

Well I hope he gets called for it, but... not likely lol- but it would be nice!!!!

hagan714 01-11-2010 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JoanieNTX (Post 190910)
Thinking our guys need to practice "acting" moves against Fitz then! Exaggerated falls the other direction when he pushes off. Use his cr*p against him!

They call it flopping! LOL The problem is it has to be called and Fitz will always get the breaks. Ratings baby, Ratings!

WillMacKenzie 01-11-2010 09:55 PM

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Fitzgerald must've learned from the bonafide king of pushoffs, Jerry Rice. Remember that guy?

strato 01-11-2010 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie (Post 191120)
Fitzgerald must've learned from the bonafide king of pushoffs, Jerry Rice. Remember that guy?

Do i ever..used to do it all the time against us and it never got called...this league takes care of its stars..sad to say

RaginCajun83 01-11-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie (Post 191120)
Fitzgerald must've learned from the bonafide king of pushoffs, Jerry Rice. Remember that guy?

Don't forget Micheal Irvin as well ... made a HOF career off of Emmit Smith and that move

QBREES9 01-11-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cargojon (Post 190936)
What some are saying is that the facemask occurred after the "fumble" but as far as I'm concerned is doesn't matter.

The reason the "fumble vs. interception" distinction is important is because roughing the passer can be called to negate an interception, but once a fumble has occurred, all bets are off with the QB and roughing.

I like Fitz, but if I see him pulling that push off crap against our guys I'll be steamed if he gets away with it. Especially if they call an OPI on us at some point during the game.

Yeah thats BS. They should made the call.

Crusader 01-12-2010 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JoanieNTX (Post 190910)
Thinking our guys need to practice "acting" moves against Fitz then! Exaggerated falls the other direction when he pushes off. Use his cr*p against him!

Please no acting in football. That what soccer is for.

SaintGup 01-12-2010 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JoanieNTX (Post 190910)
Thinking our guys need to practice "acting" moves against Fitz then! Exaggerated falls the other direction when he pushes off. Use his cr*p against him!

I kind of know what you mean, but really hope we don't resort to trying to get an Oscar. Coming from England, I see so much acting and diving in soccer it has turned me off the game. Remember when we played the Giants and they had a pass interference call aginst them when Colston was brought down? It was a bad call as contact was incidental and minimal. Even Colston, when he saw the replay on the big screen, shook his head at it. By the way, I'm also not liking the flag throwing dramatics of some of the players now. I know it is frustrating but it seems more and more players are resorting to this. Regardless of whether it influences the official's decision, which I don't believe it does the majority of the time, it just seems petulant.

exile 01-12-2010 07:56 AM

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Push-offs? What push-offs? :mrgreen:


Srgt. Hulka 01-12-2010 08:35 AM

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All I know, whatever the call, the majority of them will be called against the Saints. The refs, as always, will call more penalties on the Saints. We are going to have to play smarter than the dead birds...uh, I mean the red birds.

Budsdrinker 01-12-2010 09:09 AM

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We just need Sharper or Harper to put him on his backside one time, so what if we draw a flag at least it will grap their attention.

Rugby Saint II 01-12-2010 02:37 PM

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I would like to see us come out with an aggressive attitude and KNOCK HIM THE F#@% OUT!:popcorn:

cargojon 01-12-2010 02:49 PM

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I think Mr. Fitz needs an rude introduction to Roman Harper's neck.

st thomas 01-12-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 191094)
Its because he's Fitz..starpower favortism....somebody needs to just knock the snot out of him..and make him see stars...

PERFECT CALL STRATO, STAR POWER LENIESTY,HE WAS A POSTER BOY WHEN HE CAME INTO THE NFL, BEING PUSHED AND DECORATED BY NFL ALLPRO WIDE RECIEVER ??? . HE PLAYED FOR MINNISOTA . NOW HE'S A ANALIZER FOR HBO AND ESPN . WELL SOMEONE WILL REMEMBER WHO I'M YAKKING ABOUT. I'M THINKING THE DOME WILL EXPLODE IF HE GOES TO HIS PUSH OFF NORM. WE NEED TO TAKE HIM OUT THE GAME WITH A FEW SOLID HITS BY SHARPER. THEN HE WILL START SHORT ARMING A FEW BALLS THEN HES DONE.

st thomas 01-12-2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 191164)

thats not the one i was thinking about . its amazing what he gets away with. he ran strait into a d.b. and put him on the ground also then i believed scored on that play wow wow. payton and williams i'm sure will be preaching that before the start of the game.

DieHardCard 01-12-2010 03:00 PM

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In the game against the Pack the Refs basically let Woodson molest Fitz and let Fitz push on Woodson. They let these guys go at it. There were a ton of no-calls throughout the game. As a Cards fan it was good to see them let the teams play a little more loose. Fitz is a big WR and pretty powerful, but he is not really known to push off. At least I have never heard that one.

DieHardCard 01-12-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 191303)
thats not the one i was thinking about . its amazing what he gets away with. he ran strait into a d.b. and put him on the ground also then i believed scored on that play wow wow. payton and williams i'm sure will be preaching that before the start of the game.

Might be wrong but is it not a penalty if the DB impeeds the WR's route after 5 yards?

exile 01-12-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DieHardCard (Post 191306)
Might be wrong but is it not a penalty if the DB impeeds the WR's route after 5 yards?

Welcome to the forum DieHard... wasn't there a penalty called on AZ after one of the WRs ran over a DB? I can't remember if it was that game or the Bal/NE game. But the DB was just standing there and the WR ran him over while the ball was in the air. It was called offensive pass interference.

st thomas 01-12-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DieHardCard (Post 191304)
In the game against the Pack the Refs basically let Woodson molest Fitz and let Fitz push on Woodson. They let these guys go at it. There were a ton of no-calls throughout the game. As a Cards fan it was good to see them let the teams play a little more loose. Fitz is a big WR and pretty powerful, but he is not really known to push off. At least I have never heard that one.

your point is taken card man but the same was not considered for the rest of the recievers, what i think we"re trying to get across is that there exposing the stars to succede for the ratings if you know what i mean. but man in a game that means it all, not the first game of the year when i could see the ref's letting them play. and now the whole world watching these botched calls. everyone sounding off on this means hey man where's the call ref. you blind zebra.

DieHardCard 01-12-2010 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 191308)
Welcome to the forum DieHard... wasn't there a penalty called on AZ after one of the WRs ran over a DB? I can't remember if it was that game or the Bal/NE game. But the DB was just standing there and the WR ran him over while the ball was in the air. It was called offensive pass interference.

Yes it would be if the ball was in the air and the DB was going for the ball.

And thanks for the welcome! Looking forward to the week and the game. Flying into town Friday night for the game.

I do not recall a Off Pass Interference call in the Cards/Green Bay game. But to be honest it could have happened. I took my 6 year old son to his first playoff game and we unfortunately had to get up several times. Such as I missed the Green Bay onside kick.

DieHardCard 01-12-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 191310)
your point is taken card man but the same was not considered for the rest of the recievers, what i think we"re trying to get across is that there exposing the stars to succede for the ratings if you know what i mean. but man in a game that means it all, not the first game of the year when i could see the ref's letting them play. and now the whole world watching these botched calls. everyone sounding off on this means hey man where's the call ref. you blind zebra.

Can't argue with that! We have been the doormat of the NFL for along time and have seen the calls go against our players forever. And it was usually simply because the other player was a "star" and our guys were virtually unknown. It is annoying and I dont like the double standards, even if they are starting to apply to my Cards.

st thomas 01-12-2010 03:22 PM

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your reply could'nt have been said any better,you dished it out and were a gent taking it in.


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