The "Non Call"

Euphoria · 01-11-2010, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by cargojon

I called Bob Papa and Randy Cross this morning on Sirius to discuss this - unfortunately my cell phone got cut off before I could finish my point.

There cannot be a roughing the passer penalty on a fumble (so I've read anyway on Schefter's twitter). However, the call SHOULD have been an interception which means RTP is in force.

I guarantee you if that ball had hit the ground before Dansby grabbed it and headed towards the end zone, it would have been overturned as an incomplete pass. Terrible job of officiating.

Not true... if defensive play puts his hand in the face of the QB or blow to the head while he is in the pocket, I don't care what happens its 'roughing the passer'. If its an INT or fumble by the QB then that team/QB maintains possession 15 yards and a first down.

The ball didn't hit the ground so its really not up for debate weather it applies to the tuck rule or not.

By the letter of the rule the Ref judges the intent of the QB weather he is passing or tucking. If the Ref feels he is neither passing or tucking and the Cardnial player simply knocked the ball out of his hand then its a fumble. Its really another judgment call and based on my viewing of the play even in slow-mo I'd call it a fumble because the intent of thowing the ball isn't there at that moment. The QB's intent was to dodge being hit by evidence of the play.

What some people tend to forget this is a game that leaves a lot to be inturpret. Even some of the rules or left up for the refs judgement. some of the rules aren't so hard fast, black and white.

01-11-2010, 05:23 PM	#12
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: The "Non Call" Originally Posted by cargojon I called Bob Papa and Randy Cross this morning on Sirius to discuss this - unfortunately my cell phone got cut off before I could finish my point. There cannot be a roughing the passer penalty on a fumble (so I've read anyway on Schefter's twitter). However, the call SHOULD have been an interception which means RTP is in force. I guarantee you if that ball had hit the ground before Dansby grabbed it and headed towards the end zone, it would have been overturned as an incomplete pass. Terrible job of officiating. Not true... if defensive play puts his hand in the face of the QB or blow to the head while he is in the pocket, I don't care what happens its 'roughing the passer'. If its an INT or fumble by the QB then that team/QB maintains possession 15 yards and a first down. The ball didn't hit the ground so its really not up for debate weather it applies to the tuck rule or not. By the letter of the rule the Ref judges the intent of the QB weather he is passing or tucking. If the Ref feels he is neither passing or tucking and the Cardnial player simply knocked the ball out of his hand then its a fumble. Its really another judgment call and based on my viewing of the play even in slow-mo I'd call it a fumble because the intent of thowing the ball isn't there at that moment. The QB's intent was to dodge being hit by evidence of the play. What some people tend to forget this is a game that leaves a lot to be inturpret. Even some of the rules or left up for the refs judgement. some of the rules aren't so hard fast, black and white.
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