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SAINT_MICHAEL 01-19-2010 05:32 PM
Re: CONSPIRACY
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MorningWood (Post 194572)
St Mike, think about what you wrote. The ref's actions would be very far removed from any financial benefit he might receive.

Favre sells jerseys. If I throw a flag, Favre goes to the SB. Revenues increase league wide by .0000001%. Commish sees this increase and spreads the wealth to all refs. The difference in my pocketbook is .05% --- maybe, if all goes well with my evil scheme.

Payday baby!
Werll, let me think about it I don't know about your percentages (and I'm guessing you don't know either how much percentage a ref's paycheck was affected by your example), but to refs who work jobs outside of the NFL, I doubt it is meaningless. If Favre wins a SB under the Vikes, then many more jerseys, hats, and T shirts get sold than if the Saints win the SB. Not to mention if the Vikes reach the SB rather than the Saints, the TV ratings would be higher by a few points easily nationwide, not to mention world wide. That means multi millions more from TV advertisers. Don't kid yourself into thinking those dollars don't matter. No, it may not mean an extra few bucks in the pocket of the refs next week, but it may mean a few mill in the ref's contract renewal when it comes up. That is not insignificant to them. they are a union. unions do what is best for them as a whole, not what is best for the individual.
You THINK about it. How else do you explain the multiple BS calls over the years that have given multiple SB victories to the Cowboys, Steelers, and Pats and have shafted the Seahawks, Saints and Cards? Akam's razor. It is more likely that all these calls went for the darling money makers of the league because of profit rather than because of human error. Otherwise it would be closer to a 50-50 split. They look at the big picture (unlike you do with your example), so no, it is not "I get $50 bucks if I throw this flag". They know in the end who it behooves them to have win. Tell me this. How often have you heard someone say the NFL wants this big name team vs this big name team in the SB (read this thread to see many examples). We all have. Most of the time it does not happen but we all heard it. Yet no one hints they want Atl vs Cleveland...or Detroit vs Jacksonville...or Saints vs KC. Why? It is because even a moron knows they really don't want those matchups! Those SBs would be a TV viewing nightmare resulting in multi million dollar losses for the league. Wich means losses for the refs down the line (I.E. Union contarcts). If you don't see this, then oh, well.
All I know is, Go Saints! Because when we do get over this hump and win despite these obsticles I believe exist, it will be even more sweet!

skolvikes 01-19-2010 05:35 PM
Re: CONSPIRACY
 
If anything the NFL would want the Saints to win Because of the Williams lawsuit

Euphoria 01-19-2010 05:55 PM
Re: CONSPIRACY
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL (Post 194608)
Werll, let me think about it I don't know about your percentages (and I'm guessing you don't know either how much percentage a ref's paycheck was affected by your example), but to refs who work jobs outside of the NFL, I doubt it is meaningless. If Favre wins a SB under the Vikes, then many more jerseys, hats, and T shirts get sold than if the Saints win the SB. Not to mention if the Vikes reach the SB rather than the Saints, the TV ratings would be higher by a few points easily nationwide, not to mention world wide. That means multi millions more from TV advertisers. Don't kid yourself into thinking those dollars don't matter. No, it may not mean an extra few bucks in the pocket of the refs next week, but it may mean a few mill in the ref's contract renewal when it comes up. That is not insignificant to them. they are a union. unions do what is best for them as a whole, not what is best for the individual.
You THINK about it. How else do you explain the multiple BS calls over the years that have given multiple SB victories to the Cowboys, Steelers, and Pats and have shafted the Seahawks, Saints and Cards? Akam's razor. It is more likely that all these calls went for the darling money makers of the league because of profit rather than because of human error. Otherwise it would be closer to a 50-50 split. They look at the big picture (unlike you do with your example), so no, it is not "I get $50 bucks if I throw this flag". They know in the end who it behooves them to have win. Tell me this. How often have you heard someone say the NFL wants this big name team vs this big name team in the SB (read this thread to see many examples). We all have. Most of the time it does not happen but we all heard it. Yet no one hints they want Atl vs Cleveland...or Detroit vs Jacksonville...or Saints vs KC. Why? It is because even a moron knows they really don't want those matchups! Those SBs would be a TV viewing nightmare resulting in multi million dollar losses for the league. Wich means losses for the refs down the line (I.E. Union contarcts). If you don't see this, then oh, well.
All I know is, Go Saints! Because when we do get over this hump and win despite these obsticles I believe exist, it will be even more sweet!
Dude do you live in a bunker in Montana or something?

Vike4Life 01-19-2010 05:59 PM
Re: CONSPIRACY
 
Wow! If the fix is in, why should the Saints even try? Forfeit and let the Vikes have another weeks rest to get ready for the SB. So all of you conspiracy nuts, write to the Saints front office telling them to just give up the fix is in. :rolleyes:

Bad calls aren't the result of a conspiracy, just human error. I'm sure I'll be *****ing about calls this week like last week... thanks to instant replay there aren't as many critical ones as before.

So you know, I'll come to the forum and personally apologize for every bad call that goes against the Saints, if that will make you feel better. :-D

Euphoria 01-19-2010 06:04 PM
Re: CONSPIRACY
 
We should have lost the Redskins game... all the refs had to do was call the INT/fumble/TD for us play a down or INT downed by contact but no we got the TD...

I mean the Redskins are a bigger market... bigger draw and needed a win right. That would be more money for the NFL than than the Saints winning.

Are you the same guy who was abducted by aliens.

MorningWood 01-19-2010 06:06 PM
Re: CONSPIRACY
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL (Post 194608)
Werll, let me think about it I don't know about your percentages (and I'm guessing you don't know either how much percentage a ref's paycheck was affected by your example), but to refs who work jobs outside of the NFL, I doubt it is meaningless. If Favre wins a SB under the Vikes, then many more jerseys, hats, and T shirts get sold than if the Saints win the SB. Not to mention if the Vikes reach the SB rather than the Saints, the TV ratings would be higher by a few points easily nationwide, not to mention world wide. That means multi millions more from TV advertisers. Don't kid yourself into thinking those dollars don't matter. No, it may not mean an extra few bucks in the pocket of the refs next week, but it may mean a few mill in the ref's contract renewal when it comes up. That is not insignificant to them. they are a union. unions do what is best for them as a whole, not what is best for the individual.
You THINK about it. How else do you explain the multiple BS calls over the years that have given multiple SB victories to the Cowboys, Steelers, and Pats and have shafted the Seahawks, Saints and Cards? Akam's razor. It is more likely that all these calls went for the darling money makers of the league because of profit rather than because of human error. Otherwise it would be closer to a 50-50 split. They look at the big picture (unlike you do with your example), so no, it is not "I get $50 bucks if I throw this flag". They know in the end who it behooves them to have win. Tell me this. How often have you heard someone say the NFL wants this big name team vs this big name team in the SB (read this thread to see many examples). We all have. Most of the time it does not happen but we all heard it. Yet no one hints they want Atl vs Cleveland...or Detroit vs Jacksonville...or Saints vs KC. Why? It is because even a moron knows they really don't want those matchups! Those SBs would be a TV viewing nightmare resulting in multi million dollar losses for the league. Wich means losses for the refs down the line (I.E. Union contarcts). If you don't see this, then oh, well.
All I know is, Go Saints! Because when we do get over this hump and win despite these obsticles I believe exist, it will be even more sweet!

Sorry, but there is no way I am reading that.

SAINT_MICHAEL 01-19-2010 06:11 PM
Re: CONSPIRACY
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 194634)
Dude do you live in a bunker in Montana or something?
Not a bunker, a ranch.

DrewDat 01-19-2010 06:13 PM
Re: CONSPIRACY
 
come on man we going to this subject. can we at least wait until the game is over? lol

SAINT_MICHAEL 01-19-2010 06:15 PM
Re: CONSPIRACY
 
I love how many of you people don't read and think about what is written, but instead put your little emoticons in, twist what someone says and put your own B.S. in. you all are ust like the media experts who wrote us all off before the Cards game and before the upcoming Vikes game. You see what you want, not what is really there. With this kind of reaction, no wonder most of the US thinks Saints fans are dumb ass cajuns.

SAINT_MICHAEL 01-19-2010 06:21 PM
Re: CONSPIRACY
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MorningWood (Post 194645)
Sorry, but there is no way I am reading that.
Not suprising. If it doesn't agree with you, then the hell with it.


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