All the talk about Allen...

spkb25 · 01-21-2010, 11:02 AM

What we have some slouch in Will Smith- 13 sacks this year. Yes that makes him 1.5 less than Allen. They better be ready to protect Favre from him- they gave up 34 sacks this year

strato · 01-21-2010, 11:04 AM

Were living in a good ole boy society

exile · 01-21-2010, 11:06 AM

Will who? How dare you mention a defensive lineman who doesn't have a mullet!

Smith is much better all around DE in my opinion. Allen plays the run like his hairdresser knows the latest styles.

RaginCajun83 · 01-21-2010, 11:10 AM

Take away the Pack games and Allen is about as useless as Charles Grant

hagan714 · 01-21-2010, 11:22 AM

Ray Edwards worries more. Allen will get alot of focus so Edwards will be running a bit unchecked.

homerj07 · 01-21-2010, 11:53 AM

I agree I hope Edwards is not 100% (heck even 70%) with his knee.

Allen gets the press but they have a very good d-line!!

lumm0x · 01-21-2010, 12:35 PM

Will Smith isn't quite the pass rusher that Allen is. He is marginally slower and his techniques are not quite as explosive, but he is 10 times the run defender and at sealing the edge than Allen. Allen's mediocre attention to anything beyond full speed ahead is masked by two very solid run D tackles and a speedy OLBer that covers the edge for him. He's nothing more than a one trick pony, although he performs that trick quite nicely. We couldn't afford Allen on our team at this stage in our defense. He'd be nothing more than a liability on the end compared to Smith.

SaintPauly · 01-21-2010, 11:05 PM

I was going to say, I don't see Allen make alot of open field tackles. How many tackles does he have so far? I don't think he leads the team.

CantonLegend · 01-22-2010, 01:57 AM

9 of allens 14.5 sacks came against 2 of the most sacked QBs in the league and he played them both twice

aaron rodgers who was sacked the most of any QB in the league at 50 total times played allen twice

Jay cutler was the 7th most sacked QB in the league and also played allen twice

not to mention matthew stafford also playing in that conference

jared allen is a good pass rusher......but working against terrible offensive lines like the packers, lions, and bears who have a total of about 4 good offensive linemen combined is not exactly the greatest resume to have

will smith goes up against pro bowlers nearly every week and still manages to come away with sacks

jared allen would either get a couple sacks or disappear for the entire game

will smith was a constant contributor on every snap of every game and despite doing his work against much tougher competition, didnt even get the nod for the pro bowl

very insulting considering the NFC south DE that did make it had 7 less tackles and 3 less sacks

strato · 01-22-2010, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

9 of allens 14.5 sacks came against 2 of the most sacked QBs in the league and he played them both twice

aaron rodgers who was sacked the most of any QB in the league at 50 total times played allen twice

Jay cutler was the 7th most sacked QB in the league and also played allen twice

not to mention matthew stafford also playing in that conference

jared allen is a good pass rusher......but working against terrible offensive lines like the packers, lions, and bears who have a total of about 4 good offensive linemen combined is not exactly the greatest resume to have

will smith goes up against pro bowlers nearly every week and still manages to come away with sacks

jared allen would either get a couple sacks or disappear for the entire game

will smith was a constant contributor on every snap of every game and despite doing his work against much tougher competition, didnt even get the nod for the pro bowl

very insulting considering the NFC south DE that did make it had 7 less tackles and 3 less sacks

Allen is way overrated..same thing when he played with Chiefs always going against weak tackles.....The Mullet like sto holler and carry on ..but if you run at him ,,he backs off that pass rush..i hope they have the dome at a bout 75 degrees...that would slow him and the whole team down .

01-21-2010, 11:02 AM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	All the talk about Allen... What we have some slouch in Will Smith- 13 sacks this year. Yes that makes him 1.5 less than Allen. They better be ready to protect Favre from him- they gave up 34 sacks this year

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strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: All the talk about Allen... Were living in a good ole boy society

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01-21-2010, 11:10 AM	#4
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SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: All the talk about Allen... I was going to say, I don't see Allen make alot of open field tackles. How many tackles does he have so far? I don't think he leads the team.

01-22-2010, 01:57 AM	#9
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: All the talk about Allen... 9 of allens 14.5 sacks came against 2 of the most sacked QBs in the league and he played them both twice aaron rodgers who was sacked the most of any QB in the league at 50 total times played allen twice Jay cutler was the 7th most sacked QB in the league and also played allen twice not to mention matthew stafford also playing in that conference jared allen is a good pass rusher......but working against terrible offensive lines like the packers, lions, and bears who have a total of about 4 good offensive linemen combined is not exactly the greatest resume to have will smith goes up against pro bowlers nearly every week and still manages to come away with sacks jared allen would either get a couple sacks or disappear for the entire game will smith was a constant contributor on every snap of every game and despite doing his work against much tougher competition, didnt even get the nod for the pro bowl very insulting considering the NFC south DE that did make it had 7 less tackles and 3 less sacks
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01-22-2010, 02:03 AM	#10
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: All the talk about Allen... Originally Posted by CantonLegend 9 of allens 14.5 sacks came against 2 of the most sacked QBs in the league and he played them both twice aaron rodgers who was sacked the most of any QB in the league at 50 total times played allen twice Jay cutler was the 7th most sacked QB in the league and also played allen twice not to mention matthew stafford also playing in that conference jared allen is a good pass rusher......but working against terrible offensive lines like the packers, lions, and bears who have a total of about 4 good offensive linemen combined is not exactly the greatest resume to have will smith goes up against pro bowlers nearly every week and still manages to come away with sacks jared allen would either get a couple sacks or disappear for the entire game will smith was a constant contributor on every snap of every game and despite doing his work against much tougher competition, didnt even get the nod for the pro bowl very insulting considering the NFC south DE that did make it had 7 less tackles and 3 less sacks Allen is way overrated..same thing when he played with Chiefs always going against weak tackles.....The Mullet like sto holler and carry on ..but if you run at him ,,he backs off that pass rush..i hope they have the dome at a bout 75 degrees...that would slow him and the whole team down .