Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

After listening to NFL on Sirius for since Sunday and all of the Vikings fans making comments about the Best team did not win, or should have won.

How do you define the "Best Team"?

Are you going by roster? If that was the case then why play the game? We can look at the rosters in the start of the season and go directly to the Super Bowl? Why play the Super Bowl we can just appoint a champion by roster.

Are you going off of season Stats? If this is the case then you do not have the best team.

Are you going off of game stats? If this is the case then you did not win. Turnovers negates any stat in existence. A 99 yard run to the end zone is negated if it is fumbled on the 1 yard like and the ball is turned over. A 70 yard pass is negated when the ball is intercepted.

Are you going off of record? If this is the case then you do not have the best team.

Honestly, anyone who has played the game or has participated in Team Sports, understands the "best team" is not defined by any of the above. The "best team" is the team that won. The team that won was the "best team" that game. It is not about records or stats or roster. It is about the team that showed up on Game day and played the best ball, made the fewest mistakes. At this level it is more about not making mistakes then who out preforms the other.

To the News person that asked one the Saints Players "would you say that the Saints won today or would you say that the Vikings lost today?" That was one of the most asinine questions you could ever ask and shows you do not have enough understanding of the game to report on it. I suggest you try the weather.

The New Orleans Saints Won. They showed up on Sunday 24 Jan 2010 in the Super Dome and played the best football out of the two teams, they made the fewest mistakes. The game of football is "everything". Everything from stats, to huddles, to composure, to making decisions during the game.

How can you sit and make the statement about the Vikings were the team that should have won? Their ball control was terrible, their coaching, bad clock management decisions, at one point they did not know how many players should have been in the huddle.

re you going to say they had the best quarterback? Not by a long shot pezo. Not by stats and certainly not by intelligence. Any quarterback worth his salt know you do not throw across your body into coverage.

The New Orleans Saints won. They won by making the fewest mistakes, and that is the plain undeniable truth.

I invite anyone who has the time to search out all the BS about did the Vikings loose or did the Saints win. Find all of the whiny Vikings fans who make the statement about "who should have won".... And direct them to this thread so they can be educated on the game of foot ball and how a winner is determined.

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Totally agree x.

The team that makes the plays when it's time to make those plays is the best team. I'm not implying that the Vikes suck. On the contrary, they have an excellent team that against an inferior opponent could have overcome the obvious deficiencies. Unfortunately, one loses to a better team when that team makes you pay for your mistakes. And one can't be called the better team when one makes 8 huge mistakes in a game just on one side of the ball. We won't go into the 16 or so mistakes on the other side of the ball.

Give credit to the strategy of the opposing team, Vikings fans. The Saints permitted your team to gain lots of yards because of your propensity to be careless with the ball. Your core weaknesses were attacked and exploited, causing you to lose the game. Your team's decision making is suspect and your team's arrogance that it can do more than it is capable compounded the problem.

Plus, there's a kharmic justice in rejecting this cult of personality created around Brett Favre. You bought it, Vikes fans, you broke it, you own it.

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

At this level in the playoffs when the number 1 and number 2 seed are playing ALL teams are fairly equal. MIN and NO were more equal than most going into this game.

Exactly my point, arguably we may have made more or less mistakes. However we made the least crucial mistakes. Which is what the Score Board always shows.

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Great post. I had one Vikqueen fan tell me we got "lucky" to win the game.

I told him actually they were "lucky" to still be in the game. In the game of IF we could play:

IF the Saints would have recovered some of those other fumbles.
IF the Saints receivers would have held onto a few of those throws.
IF Porter runs outside after that interception.
IF Thomas doesn't stumble on the return in OT.
IF the proper call would have been made for roughing the passer when a Vikings player did the same exact thing to Brees (launch and drive him into the ground in OT) as was done to Favre.

He stopped me after these. :-D

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

If you look back at any talking head, and I don't care who, ESPN, FOX, NFLN, any of them, you can bet that most of the commentators said that the team that makes the fewest mistakes, commits the fewest turnovers will win the game. I think we all said it on this board, I know I did. That is exactly what happened. These teams were so evenly matched that there was no way to predict the winner ahead of time. And the score reflected that. We won by committing the fewest errors, period. If we had turned the ball over five times, we would have lost. It is as simple as that.

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Real talk, the Saints and Vikings were each other's biggest challenge. It just so happens that the Saints overcame that challenge. The playoffs is a totally different monster altogether. What you done in the regular season doesn't always translate to what you do in the playoffs - and that includes stats and W/L record. In the regular season, you always have another game to play. In the playoffs, you've got to earn another chance to play. In other words, WIN OR GO HOME!

As for that Vikings fan (as well as some of the talking heads in the media) who is so quick to call any Saints win a 'lucky' win. Question: Did anybody call Carolina's win over the Rams in the playoffs "LUCKY" when Steve Smith torched them for the game winner in OT on their SB run? Has anyone called Tennessee's playoff win against Buffalo "LUCKY"? You know the one, the "Music City Miracle". I don't want to get into the "Immaculate Reception" or the "Miracle in the Meadowlands" or (sigh!) the Dirty Birds' "Big Ben" play. When it involves the Saints winning, it a "LUCKY" win. ARE YOU SERIOUS?!? Face it, the Saints beat you. PERIOD! Even if they lost there would be no excuses coming from us. There is always next year. This time, for us, THIS YEAR IS NEXT YEAR!! To quote RNR Hall-of-Famers Run-DMC: "It's Like That and That's The Way It Is".

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Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Did you hear the news person right before the question say, "now don't get mad at me for asking this, but...."

Man, that's like saying "I'm not a racist, but..."

If you have to preface a question with "don't get mad at me for asking", then I'd say it's a safe assumption that it is a stupid question!

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Steeler fan here. Just wanted to say congrats first off.

Secondly, thought you should know that Vikings fans whined and b!tched after we beat them in October. Never mind Favre's fumble and Taylor's dropped pass-turned-Pick-6...Nooo, it was the paid-off ref's fault for calling a blatant tripping call on an earlier play. Forget all the plays our defense made at the right time and how the Viking's offense went into total meltdown at the end of the game. Nope, the "Vikings out-played the Steelers and would have won if the refs hadn't give those cheaters the game." What a pantywaste fanbase.

Saints fans, you're not alone in dealing with these primadonna fans. Best to let them waste away and play an endless blame game while you concentrate on winning Super Bowl 44. Good luck.

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Thanks Brother!

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Exactomundo, my French speaking friend!

Un petit cul, il est!

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

All that matters is the final score brother. We won and they didnt so by that, it means the better team won. THE NEW ORLEANS SAINTS!!!!!!!

WE GOIN TO DA SUPER BOWL!!!!!!!! YEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAA

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

I have a lot of friends/family on Facebook and in this part of the country run into Vikes fans everyday usually with my Saints coat on. So far, I haven't heard a great deal of whining about injustices or 'your team didn't deserve it' type of talk. I got one comment however that penalty flags should be reviewable (which I can somewhat agree with, but logistically tough to implement and probably a slight to the refs).

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

well said steelcity, the most winny babies ever come across

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

So right x626xBlack. I read on a SOCCER forum :doh: that the ViQueens were the better team and unlucky. Crap! I am so mad.
FACT 1: It is not a fact that the ViQueens are better or unlucky.
FACT 2: SAINTS 31 VIKINGS 28

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Bingo!!..i smell a sore loser and im gonna leave it that until i see something on youtube....Adios thread!!!!!!!:pokechop:

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

I don't care what whiners think. Let the losers complain. They are good at that. They've had tons of experience.

Who cares what they think. They like mullets in Minniesoooooota.

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

http://www.gifmania.us/babies/crying/d_D90F.gif

That's all I gotta say. Bunch of sissy, whiny babies without their pacifiers.

Get over it!

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

The better team always wins. PERIOD

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Spoke too soon - I just got in a "The Better Team" argument with a co-worker who's actually a Chiefs fan ... UGH!

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

That right there drove me crazy and I'm a Colts fans! I'm screaming at the TV run to the outside you moron! All he had was a bunch of fat slow Olinemen to beat that becomes a pick 6 but instead he tries to go inside and ends up running right into one of those fat linemen.

Is a shame to because the only way that games ends any sweeter is if that was a pick six.

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

DUDE!!!! Your avatar is magical!!!!!!!:o:hallucinate:

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

I'm sick of hearing Vikings fans saying "if we didn't fumble" like they fumbled purely out of nerves, having back-ups replace injured starters, or faulty equipment (I've actually heard players blame fumbles on new gloves). We CAUSED those fumbles!!! That's what we do. Maybe 2 of those 6 fumbles were purely their own mistakes, but the other 4, we stripped the ball from them!

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

If they scored more points... they would have won to but they didn't.

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

What the hell does a Chief's fan know about being the better team, lmao!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Vikings like their fans are gay....not that there's anything wrong with that.

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Even that moron "Ed" fromthe Ed SHow on MSNBC said the Viks should have won.

Lets pull put a "Mora-ism"

Soulda, woulda, coulda"

BUT we are going to the Super Bowl!!!

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Going by that logic, then I guess the Pats, SHOULDA won the superbowl against the Giants, because they were undefeated in the season, so that made them the better team right? No. They were the better team, that day. That's what the play offs are for, to figure out, who the better teams are, and narrow it down to the superbowl. That's exactly what happened. We won the game, THAT DAY. Bad calls, went both ways, so I don't even want to hear that excuse.

Besides, turning over the ball five times in one game, is a damn good indicator, as to why you lost the game. I've always wondered, which is the best way to look at fumbles: Is it better as a fan, to say, that the defense caused alot of pressure, that made these turnovers possible? Or would you say, "we beat ourselves with mistakes", which to me means, "we are incompetent football players, that cannot be trusted in a big game situation". Either one, is a recipe for a loss, but I think I would go with the first one, instead of throwing my own team's players under the bus, after them going out and playing their butts off for me, only to be insulted that way. But maybe that's just me.

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

What did the scoreboard say????

oh yeah

Saints 31
Dikes 28

enough said....

Game over

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

There is an expression;

Excuses are like (_!_)holes.
Everybody has at least one.

The VyQueen fans collectively happen to be one, it would appear.

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Good post, X-dude. The Vikings would have won if this was fantasy football. Otherwise there's only one stat that means anything. Some of them are not known for graceful exits.

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

"If"
Since I was a child I was taught that "if" should never be used in an excuse or reason..

As my Father always said: "IF" Your aunt had balls she would be your uncle.

Mucho Gracias SkyMike!

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Vikes fans, you had a long date with a high priced hooker and fell "in LOVE" with her. She gave you almost everything you hoped for but broke your heart when she failed to deliver in the clutch.

You tried to BUY championship and FAILED, the Saints did it the old fashinoned way, they EARNED IT!!!!!

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Well said, vpheughan!

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Brett Favre holds the record for the most interceptions thrown in the playoffs... ALL TIME.

APeterson has fumblitis, not to mention some of those other purple people.

Those two factors alone are something for the Vikes to focus on to improve but they blame anything and everything instead. Otay buttwheat.

If you don't address a problem, it remains a problem. Blaming everything you can other than the cause of the problem is called denial.

To do so over and over, is insanity.

How many times have the VyQueens blown it in the playoffs?

:p

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

If I was a mod, this thread would be locked. No need to re-hash. The game was over a long time ago. NEXT ! We are not the VyQueens. ;)

Or, do you want to torment the vikes fans that are still lurking? (I have to admit, I've done it)

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Karma is a beotch. Sorry, but I don't make up those rules.

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

Yes it is.....

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

You just gotta understand tux, we had viking trolls in here, a week before we played the Cards. While I agree, that this dead horse needs to be shovelled off the pavement, they really do have it coming.

Re: Dear Minnesota Vikings Fans
 

I pledge to move on to the Dolts but yea, the Vike fans were some douchebags (not only here but across the internet) prior to the bowling for touchdowns showcase the MinnieSoooooota VyQueens provided.

Post game fan behavior was EVEN WORSE... what a bunch of phuckin crybabies.

The horse is dead. I digress. Not it is time to verbally kick some colt (_!_).