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Supes 01-27-2010 12:00 AM

Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
Colts
Differential of 109 points (6.8/g)
Turnover Differential +2
Allowed 307 points (19.2/g)
Scored 416 points (26/g)

Saints
Differential of 169 points (10.6/g)
Turnover Differential +11
Allowed 341 points (21.3/g)
Scored 510 points (31.9/g)

Saints average 5.9 points per game more than the Colts. Advantage Saints

Saints allowed 2.1 points per game more than the Colts. Advantage Colts

Turnover Differential highly favors Saints.

Colts have 34 sacks as a team.
Saints have 35 sacks as a team.
slight advantage Saints.

Saints have caused 28.5 sacks using just Dlineman.
Colts have caused 30.5 sacks using just Dlineman.

Slight edge to Colts.

Rushing QB slight edge to Colts almost a push.

Saints Average 4.5 yards per rush
Colts Average 3.5 yards per rush.

Advantage Saints

Saints average 12.1 yards per reception.
Colts average 11.5 yards per reception.

advantage to the Saints.

Manning Sacked 1.7 % of Dropbacks(very hard to Sack)
Brees Sacked 3.7% of Dropbacks(Hard to SacK) advantage Colts

Brees intercepted 2.1% of Passes
Manning intercepted 2.8% of Passes Slight edge to Saints

16 interceptions and 18 Forced Fumbles by Colts
26 interceptions and 16 Forced Fumbles by Saints Big Advantage Saints

Saints allow 5.5 yards per play
Colts allow 5.0 yards per play
slight advantage Colts

Saints gain 6.3 yards per play
Colts gain 5.9 yards per play
slight advantage Saints

Colts gain 5.2 yards per Punt Return
Saints Gain 4.6 yards per Punt Return
advantage Colts

Saints Gain 24.4 yards per Kickoff Return
Colts Gain 22.2 yards per Kickoff Return
advantage Saints

Colts Average 44.3 yards per punt
Saints Average 43.6 yards per punt
Advantage Colts

Hartley Field Goal 81.8%
Stover Field Goals 81.8%
Push

Special Teams Slight Advantage Colts

Colts have allowed 44 QB hits
Saints have allowed 52 QB Hits
Advantage Colts

saints 89 penalties
colts 74 penalties

advantage Colts


Colts
Rushing to Right
11 runs of 10+, 24 First Downs, 17 Negative Runs
Saints
Rushing to the Right
19 runs of 10+,48 first downs, 15 negative runs
Advantage Big Time Saints

Colts
Rushing to the Middle
13 runs of 10+, 22 first downs, 5 negative runs
Saints
Rushing to the Middle
8 runs of 10+,23 first downs, 4 negative runs

pretty much a push on running up the gut

Colts
rushing to the Left
13 runs of 10+,23 first downs,21 negative runs
Saints
rushing to the Left
24 runs of 10+,44 first downs,23 negatives

Advantage Saints we Ran way More to the Left than they did and only got Stuffed 2 more times and had almost double the number of first downs and big plays running the ball

Colts line allowed 44 hits
Saints line allowed 52 hits
advantage Colts

Saints line allowed 20 Sacks
Colts line allowed 13
Advantage Colts

Center
Saturday
.5 sack allowed
2 penalties

Goodwin
0 Sacks allowed
2 penalties

Slight edge Saints

Right Guard
Evans
2 sacks allowed
5 penalties

DeVan
0 Sacks allowed
2 penalties

Advantage Colts

Right Tackle
Stinchcomb
3 sacks allowed
4 penalties

Diem
1 sack allowed
7 penalties

diem allowed 3 more penalties and 2 less Sacks so I'd say wash or slight advantage Saints

Left Guard
Nicks
1.5 Sacks Allowed
3 penalties

Lilja
1 sack allowed
0 penalties
advantage Colts

Left Tackle
Bushrod
7.5 Sacks allowed
4 penalties

Johnson
2.5 Sacks allowed
1 penalty
Clear advantage Colts

Right Guard/Right Tackle seems to be their weekspot if you can call it that


someone please post this on Colts Boards and Send to ESPN so they can See just how close these two teams really are.
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Supes 01-27-2010 12:18 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
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Turbo Saint 01-27-2010 12:27 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
wow...where the hell did you dig up all this? awesome work...i'm even feeling better about this now :D

WHO DAT?!

Supes 01-27-2010 12:29 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
looking at few websites online and just compiled it to one place

Supes 01-27-2010 02:32 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
bump

Choupique 01-27-2010 04:03 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
Quote:

Colts have 34 sacks as a team.
Saints have 35 sacks as a team.
slight advantage Saints.
It has clearly been proven you don't have to have Sack stats to rattle a veteran QB.

Sacks ZERO
Hits 16
Quote:

Colts have allowed 44 QB hits
Saints have allowed 52 QB Hits
Advantage Colts
I would be willing to bet large sums of cash we hit Manning more than they hit Cool Brees.

http://media.timesleader.com/ap/NFC_..._425625136.jpg

Choupique 01-27-2010 04:05 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
This is simply amazing.

Quote:

Brees intercepted 2.1% of Passes
Manning intercepted 2.8% of Passes
Unfreakin'real.

Saintswrath 01-27-2010 04:48 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
I like your break down supes.. Mad Reps!

Jabba 01-27-2010 08:13 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Choupique (Post 199450)
It has clearly been proven you don't have to have Sack stats to rattle a veteran QB.

Sacks ZERO
Hits 16
I would be willing to bet large sums of cash we hit Manning more than they hit Cool Brees.

http://media.timesleader.com/ap/NFC_..._425625136.jpg

Bet.

Although not for money... just for internet bragging rights. I'll come back and either take my lumps... or gloat. Is that cool by you?

Jabba

Jabba 01-27-2010 08:36 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
The trouble with stats... is they don't take into account the strength of opponents. Ya'll might take this wrong... but the AFC is stronger than the NFC. It has been for a while. I know the Saints are good. But overall the NFC is a weaker conference than the AFC.

If you check the stats.. the AFC has a 10 game win advantage over the NFC in head to head games this season.



From a winning % standpoint... the AFC South is the toughest division in football, winning 38 games this year. The NFC South won only 33 games.

That skews the naked stats some. How much? Anyone's guess.

I think the oddsmakers are right on, as they usually are. The Colts have an advantage here and probably should be favored. By no means does that mean it's a lock. They play the games for a reason, and that is ANYTHING can, and often does happen.

Who was it that broke the Saints winning streak? Oh yeah Dallas... Ok they were a quality team this year, as much as I despise the Cowboys. Point is... the Saints are a lot BETTER team and still lost to them.

It's gonna be fun guys... and in a situation like this... I am gonna be happy for whoever wins.

Good luck... but not TOO good.

Jabba

braggbro1 01-27-2010 08:45 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
This is interesting but I'm not sure that most of these stats are that telling because the game doesn't occur in a vacuum. The important thing will be the stats when the teams play against one another.

Jabba 01-27-2010 09:50 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
They're still fun to talk about though... especially when we're on a two week no football, cold turkey, drought.

Jabba

Supes 01-27-2010 09:55 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
the main thing i got from the numbers and the main reason i posted them to all forums i could get into was they illustrated just how close both teams were
being near mirror images of each other
anyone expecting a blowout will be disappointed.

Supes 01-27-2010 11:21 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
bump

Harrr 01-27-2010 11:55 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Choupique (Post 199450)
It has clearly been proven you don't have to have Sack stats to rattle a veteran QB.

Sacks ZERO
Hits 16
I would be willing to bet large sums of cash we hit Manning more than they hit Cool Brees.

http://media.timesleader.com/ap/NFC_..._425625136.jpg

you have 1 more team sack, not 10. Therefore, how can you assume we won't touch brees while you will be able to consistently get to manning? If you actully look at the percentages, the Colts are more likely to get a sack than hit if they get to the qb. The sack to hit ratio is higher.

As far as the bet, have your lawyer draw up a contract and pm me the details.

st thomas 01-27-2010 11:56 AM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
we will rise to the ocasion we always do. bring on the transformers after the superbowl. we'll melt there armor also.

thats some awesome stats supes, thanks

darstep 01-27-2010 12:25 PM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
Great numbers Supes...I love these numbers. They are good for trending, forcasting, speculation and a bunch of other stuff I won't mention. This team sport, 11-on-11, sometimes comes down to 1-on-1 match ups, and playing in the moment. There are days when the game slows down and the action unfolds in slow motion, and you are ahead of the curve on every play (ie McKenzie against NE, Reggie against NYJ). The team with the most players that make plays at crucial times and pivotal moments will win the Superbowl. I hope we can overcome all the hype, survive the 45 minute half-time, are better prepared, and want it more than the Colts.

TheOak 01-27-2010 12:26 PM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harrr (Post 199593)
you have 1 more team sack, not 10. Therefore, how can you assume we won't touch brees while you will be able to consistently get to manning? If you actully look at the percentages, the Colts are more likely to get a sack than hit if they get to the qb. The sack to hit ratio is higher.

As far as the bet, have your lawyer draw up a contract and pm me the details.

Because we play dirty and the QB does not have to have the ball to get hit. Fair enough? LOL

FlexDefense 01-27-2010 01:43 PM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
If the game comes down to field goals, the edge has to go to Stover over Hartley.

Choupique 01-27-2010 02:17 PM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
I'll take Hartley. He is just getting started. The kid has skills.
http://media.nola.com/saints_impact/...7155_large.jpg

I've heard how long he kicks at practice.

Yet ANOTHER great choice by our Coach, imo.

breesfan27 01-27-2010 02:24 PM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
Either way, it will be another Minnesota game. Close scoring.

Supes 01-27-2010 10:01 PM

Re: Saints/Colts Breakdown Kinda Long but Covered all Bases in 1 Thread
 
yep that was the point of the stats to show just how close these two teams are


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