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heh.

Be careful. You typed the letters.

;^p

BOOTLEG WHO DAT!

Re: What Is This BS Im Hearing About the NFL Thinking They Own "Who Dat?"
 

So is anyone hearing anything more on the news about this?

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WTF???

The NFL whines like a Vikings fan!!!

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slam bam, right on the head. here here.


Me Own Fire.... You pay use fire.... fire from me...

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It's bad enough that Al "Crypt Reeker" Davis forced the Ravens to change their logo because of the shield, which looks nothing like that crap they have on their helmets. Oh, does anyone remember the Brass? The NHL and the St. Louis Blews for the minor league hockey team to change their logo because of one horn when the Brass had three. I can see if there is some concrete evidence about the NFL's rights and bylaws, but this is ridiculous. Nobody cared when the Saints were annual doormats. Now that the team is in the Big Show (Go ahead, take that from me, I dare ya!!), they are showing up late like a crackhead. FORTY-THREE YEARS LATE!!!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2319/...beb95d13_m.jpg

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A good place to start letting the NFL know how you feel is the PR department. They'll understand that this has the potential to be really bad for the NFL.

Joe Browne, Executive Vice President of Communications & Public Affairs
212.450-2031 e-mail: Joe.Browne@nfl.com
280 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10017
212. 450-2000
PR Dept. FAX: 212. 681-7572

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From what i heard, the Rights to "WHO DAT" Isn't the issue, it's the Rights to the Saints Logo (the Fleur De Lis) And The Name "Saints" on anything, most of our Saints Logo and Saints named stuff just happened to have "WHO DAT" on it.
Someone probably exaggerated the story a bit to get people in an uproar..

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no, i listened to WWL a moment ago... they were going after people selling anything black and gold... and ANY fleur, not just the Saints trademark fleur.

i really dont think the NFL wants this to become a big story... keep talking about it, and watch and see if it doesnt get interesting. we've made our voices heard before....

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Yes ..... Let's change it to

WHOUX DAT!


That way the NFL can go take a Nice Flying Leap!

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Well if they are trying to stop anything with the Fleur de lis on it and black and gold, they will have a fight on their hands, thats just ridiculous, first the Fleur de lis don't even belong to American's, it's a French/Religious Symbol that have been used for centuries not decades.
And even after that the city of New Orleans when founded kept that symbol as a city trademark along with the crescent sign.
The Fleur De Lis has a Deeper meaning than a damn Football game or any modern games for that matter, they will lose that one.. Besides Ed Hartley have been using that on his cloths for a while now, why haven't they targeted that clothing designer?.

Black and Gold? How can you Trade mark colors or the 3 words.. They don't own it..
The Saints i agree, they own the rights to that as a Football name and it shouldn't be printed on to cloths that relate to football and be sold without permission.

But i'll go listen to the WWL Podcast to see what this is all about.

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That'll actually work for me, i actually like that better than the English Version..
Why have we been using the English Word anyway? LMAO.

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This is SO unfair to Lauren! I have severaly Fleurty Girl shirts, including the #WHODAT shirt. The No Fun League sucks.

What a bunch of ra-tards!

But on a good note, all this free publicity is getting Lauren more business! Kudos, girl! I support you 100%

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We must revolt...whos with me? "The Who Dat Revolution!"

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Defend Who Dat! Defend Fleurty Girl!

WHO DAT!

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I remember an interview with Ronnie James Dio, when he was asked who started the devil horns sign, at metal shows, and actually he did start doing it, but then I guess Gene Simmons came out in the press, and said he started it. Dio said according to Gene, he invented the color orange, and the word "the".

Very similar situation.

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The Fleur de Lis has been employed in various ways since 493 with the Frankish King Clovis I and became the standard and consistent emblem of French royalty thereafter. It is essentially a "serif'ed" cross, signifying a union between the Almighty and the conference of power to His designee on earth. It has nearly always been depicted as a gold flower regardless of the background. Most notably,


IT IS ON THE NEW ORLEANS CITY FLAG SINCE 1718

http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/images/u/us-la-no.gif


The NFL would lose on summary judgment.

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They can't copyright a fleur de lis, because its not even American, and its much older than even the copyright system (as someone pointed out earlier).

They can't copyright black and gold colors.

And unless they've copyrighted "who dat!", there's nothing they can do about that either.

The only issue would be if she used an exact picture of the Saints logo, emblem, the word Saints, or anything directly linked to the NFL and its properties.

You can copyright an EXPRESSION of an idea, but you can't copyright an underlying idea. Nor can you copyright something in the public domain.

She could well say that a fleur de lis and the words "WHO DAT!" are not related to The Saints football team, but is more of an expression of attitude for New Orleans residents. (i.e. "who dat", who is going to keep New Orleans from recovering)

Copyrights: How Different is Different Enough

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I think it would be great for all the stores to sell black, gold or white shirts with a big 'WHO DAT!' on them. I don't care how big a company you are, you cannot licence words and I have only ever heard of 2 companies that have licenced colours and even then I don't think they would waste time proving that it is the exact same shade. No Fleur-de-Lys, no Saints logos, just a big Who Dat. I'm telling you they couldn't do a thing but everyone would still know what it was about.

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I recently found a company online, that sells game day jerseys, all stitched, for 60 dollars each. It is an exact replica, or the same jerseys, that sell for 300 dollars, on any website. Not just the Saints, EVERY team in the NFL. Now how is it possible for them to do this, and not get notes from the NFL?

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Next they'll claim they own the shape of Louisiana.

Yes. Defend these indeed. Lets stick together and fight this bull****.

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LOL Because right now WHO DAT is HOT and selling. The others.. "Not so much".

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Because they're made in CHINA by Chinese knock-off companies (probably the same S- when you think about it)

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The NFL is run by Chinese...you didnt know this...

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Not yet at least..... for the moment they're just making the clothing ;)

As far as the who dat stuff...... if no one ever trademarked it, then the NFL/NO Saints could copyright/trademark the phrase like any catch phrase a corporation uses. They probably realized much of your fanbase is purchasing more WHO DAT gear than the officially licensed NFL apparell.

I have a little (very little) online shop where I come up with offbeat/different JETS and football shirts (mostly for friends/family) but sold a few.
I replaced some with some Saints/Colts designs for the SB and several random people across the country hopped on the Saints/who dat? stuff. Even some guy in IN.

OH well NFL....... it'll be awhile before they can truly enforce it.

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no, they're already targeting specific vendors with cease & desist letters. The intimidation alone is enough. I got thru to Jim Rome today, but the screener said they werent talking about it today, and wanted to wait till its a bigger story. I still think we should raise hell.

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here's the link to the online petition thread

http://blackandgold.com/saints/24470...tml#post200833

We might even considering shouting over to site-X, if they feel the same way we do, and seeing if they'll help this.

anyone here Bi-Boardal?

update: wow, 12,000 signatures... guess Im not the only Who Dat outraged by this.

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Can you say.....AL DAVIS?

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I try not to.

:p

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I found this excerpt to be priceless!
Who Dat? It's the big, bad NFL, that's who - Sports - MiamiHerald.com

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I am not sure that that is completely true. I believe there are some things that become public domain and are unable to be owned by any individual or organization. Not 100% positive on that, but am fairly certain. Anyone else with some info please chime in

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They COULD, but if they have not it is their loss.

I did a Trade mark search. From what I have seen someone in New Orleans has the Trade Mark for "Who Dat!". Looks like they have had if for a few years.

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WHO DAT!

Who dat backing down from a legal fight? | ProFootballTalk.com

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all a "misunderstanding." mmm hmmm.

thaaaats what we thought you meant. good move, NFL.

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That's lawyer speak for, "Oh we just wanted to scare you into giving up. Hurr hurr hurr. Guess it didn't work. Now what are we gonna do to squander money from the little guys?!" :dunce: