NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged]

Revis Saves · 01-29-2010, 04:39 PM

Not yet at least..... for the moment they're just making the clothing

As far as the who dat stuff...... if no one ever trademarked it, then the NFL/NO Saints could copyright/trademark the phrase like any catch phrase a corporation uses. They probably realized much of your fanbase is purchasing more WHO DAT gear than the officially licensed NFL apparell.

I have a little (very little) online shop where I come up with offbeat/different JETS and football shirts (mostly for friends/family) but sold a few.
I replaced some with some Saints/Colts designs for the SB and several random people across the country hopped on the Saints/who dat? stuff. Even some guy in IN.

OH well NFL....... it'll be awhile before they can truly enforce it.

skymike · 01-29-2010, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Revis Saves

... it'll be awhile before they can truly enforce it.

no, they're already targeting specific vendors with cease & desist letters. The intimidation alone is enough. I got thru to Jim Rome today, but the screener said they werent talking about it today, and wanted to wait till its a bigger story. I still think we should raise hell.

spkb25 · 02-01-2010, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Revis Saves

Not yet at least..... for the moment they're just making the clothing

As far as the who dat stuff...... if no one ever trademarked it, then the NFL/NO Saints could copyright/trademark the phrase like any catch phrase a corporation uses.

I am not sure that that is completely true. I believe there are some things that become public domain and are unable to be owned by any individual or organization. Not 100% positive on that, but am fairly certain. Anyone else with some info please chime in

TheOak · 02-01-2010, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I am not sure that that is completely true. I believe there are some things that become public domain and are unable to be owned by any individual or organization. Not 100% positive on that, but am fairly certain. Anyone else with some info please chime in

They COULD, but if they have not it is their loss.

I did a Trade mark search. From what I have seen someone in New Orleans has the Trade Mark for "Who Dat!". Looks like they have had if for a few years.

exile · 02-01-2010, 01:09 PM

WHO DAT!

The politicians of Louisiana have spoken, and the NFL is listening.

The league appears to be backing down from their ownership claims of the phrase "Who Dat?" and the fleur-de-lis logo.

"'Who Dat' we do not claim to own by itself," said Brian McCarthy, a spokesman for the NFL told the New Orleans Times-Picayune. "It's when 'Who Dat' is used in conjunction with Saints marks that it's a problem."

T-shirts can use the phrase and a fleur-de-lis unlike the one owned by the Saints as long as they are not being advertised as Saints paraphernalia.

McCarthy said the brouhahaha over the issue last week was a "significant misunderstanding." Senator David Vitter had urged the league to "drop this obnoxious and legally unsustainable position."

The league, it appears, is essentially doing just that.

Who dat backing down from a legal fight? | ProFootballTalk.com

skymike · 02-01-2010, 04:22 PM

all a "misunderstanding." mmm hmmm.

thaaaats what we thought you meant. good move, NFL.

breesfan27 · 02-01-2010, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

all a "misunderstanding." mmm hmmm.

thaaaats what we thought you meant. good move, NFL.

That's lawyer speak for, "Oh we just wanted to scare you into giving up. Hurr hurr hurr. Guess it didn't work. Now what are we gonna do to squander money from the little guys?!"

01-29-2010, 04:39 PM	#1
Revis Saves Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NE FL Posts: 30	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] Not yet at least..... for the moment they're just making the clothing As far as the who dat stuff...... if no one ever trademarked it, then the NFL/NO Saints could copyright/trademark the phrase like any catch phrase a corporation uses. They probably realized much of your fanbase is purchasing more WHO DAT gear than the officially licensed NFL apparell. I have a little (very little) online shop where I come up with offbeat/different JETS and football shirts (mostly for friends/family) but sold a few. I replaced some with some Saints/Colts designs for the SB and several random people across the country hopped on the Saints/who dat? stuff. Even some guy in IN. OH well NFL....... it'll be awhile before they can truly enforce it.
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01-29-2010, 04:56 PM	#2
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] Originally Posted by Revis Saves ... it'll be awhile before they can truly enforce it. no, they're already targeting specific vendors with cease & desist letters. The intimidation alone is enough. I got thru to Jim Rome today, but the screener said they werent talking about it today, and wanted to wait till its a bigger story. I still think we should raise hell.

02-01-2010, 08:34 AM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] Originally Posted by Revis Saves Not yet at least..... for the moment they're just making the clothing As far as the who dat stuff...... if no one ever trademarked it, then the NFL/NO Saints could copyright/trademark the phrase like any catch phrase a corporation uses. I am not sure that that is completely true. I believe there are some things that become public domain and are unable to be owned by any individual or organization. Not 100% positive on that, but am fairly certain. Anyone else with some info please chime in

02-01-2010, 10:02 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] Originally Posted by spkb25 I am not sure that that is completely true. I believe there are some things that become public domain and are unable to be owned by any individual or organization. Not 100% positive on that, but am fairly certain. Anyone else with some info please chime in They COULD, but if they have not it is their loss. I did a Trade mark search. From what I have seen someone in New Orleans has the Trade Mark for "Who Dat!". Looks like they have had if for a few years.

02-01-2010, 01:09 PM	#5
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] WHO DAT! The politicians of Louisiana have spoken, and the NFL is listening. The league appears to be backing down from their ownership claims of the phrase "Who Dat?" and the fleur-de-lis logo. "'Who Dat' we do not claim to own by itself," said Brian McCarthy, a spokesman for the NFL told the New Orleans Times-Picayune. "It's when 'Who Dat' is used in conjunction with Saints marks that it's a problem." T-shirts can use the phrase and a fleur-de-lis unlike the one owned by the Saints as long as they are not being advertised as Saints paraphernalia. McCarthy said the brouhahaha over the issue last week was a "significant misunderstanding." Senator David Vitter had urged the league to "drop this obnoxious and legally unsustainable position." The league, it appears, is essentially doing just that. Who dat backing down from a legal fight? \| ProFootballTalk.com
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02-01-2010, 04:22 PM	#6
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] all a "misunderstanding." mmm hmmm. thaaaats what we thought you meant. good move, NFL.

02-01-2010, 04:24 PM	#7
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL Orders Shops to Stop Selling "Who Dat" Gear [Merged] Originally Posted by skymike all a "misunderstanding." mmm hmmm. thaaaats what we thought you meant. good move, NFL. That's lawyer speak for, "Oh we just wanted to scare you into giving up. Hurr hurr hurr. Guess it didn't work. Now what are we gonna do to squander money from the little guys?!"