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strato 02-01-2010 03:10 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
According to this ..they did get it...hmmmm


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indy4192 02-01-2010 03:11 PM

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Better? Not a chance, luckier yep and that is part of the game, but don't kid yourself, you guys are where you are because of a bounce here and a stupid play there. Denying the facts don't change them.

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 201808)
indy i'm going to tell you this 1 time the saints were the better team they won the damm game and were in the bowl dude, and there is'nt no guarantee that he makes a 50 plus yarder with the crowd effect ,no dude its no sure thing man, your just a hater like the rest, sorry. you play to win the game, turn overs are dealt in these games,they are stats of the game bro.


indy4192 02-01-2010 03:13 PM

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How did that balanced offense do against a sub par TB team in your own home? That "balanced" team should have lost at Washington, yep that balance is good....

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 201823)
No bro, but don't you understand football? If you are balanced each opens up the other. Each team you just named has issues throwing the ball. Good luck playing a balanced offense


exile 02-01-2010 03:14 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
Indy is getting his speech ready for after this game apparently. :mrgreen:

As for Freeney. Even if he plays he should be limited. Did Allen get to Brees? I doubt a limited Freeney would be much more of a concern.

SaintGup 02-01-2010 03:17 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
I get pretty sick of all the haters saying that we weren't good enough, the vikings lost the game we didn't win blah blah... To all of you out there thinking this way, if you don't win the game, you just ain't good enough. When peope said we were lucky against the Redskins..No, the Redskins just weren't good enough. If they were, they would have made the field goal...If the Vikings were good enough, Favre would have run the ball for 6 yards instead of throwing the INT. At that time, HE WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH! Everyone seems to forget 3/4 of our Secondary, 2/3 of our linebackers and 1/2 of our D-line were not available in the latter half of the season but no one mentions that. We just tanked...Treat us as underdogs, go ahead. If we lose, no big deal, Colts were expected to win. But if we win...you've just got beaten by a bunch of losers and everyone on this board will wait for the excuses to come in. Enjoy the game.

breesfan27 02-01-2010 03:20 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
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Originally Posted by SaintGup (Post 201837)
I get pretty sick of all the haters saying that we weren't good enough, the vikings lost the game we didn't win blah blah... To all of you out there thinking this way, if you don't win the game, you just ain't good enough. When peope said we were lucky against the Redskins..No, the Redskins just weren't good enough. If they were, they would have made the field goal...If the Vikings were good enough, Favre would have run the ball for 6 yards instead of throwing the INT. At that time, HE WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH! Everyone seems to forget 3/4 of our Secondary, 2/3 of our linebackers and 1/2 of our D-line were not available in the latter half of the season but no one mentions that. We just tanked...Treat us as underdogs, go ahead. If we lose, no big deal, Colts were expected to win. But if we win...you've just got beaten by a bunch of losers and everyone on this board will wait for the excuses to come in. Enjoy the game.

Agreed SaintGup. Anyone who says that the Saints aren't good enough and don't deserve to be in the Super Bowl, doesn't know sh*t about football. Period. Make excuses all you want, the Saints EARNED their right to be where they are now. Nobody gave it to them.

Who Dat! :bng:

Stlrfan 02-01-2010 03:21 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
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Originally Posted by exile (Post 201834)
Indy is getting his speech ready for after this game apparently. :mrgreen:

As for Freeney. Even if he plays he should be limited. Did Allen get to Brees? I doubt a limited Freeney would be much more of a concern.

LOL, you guys are just getting a feel for the Indy fans...don't worry, they only get worse! And yeah, the excuses are gearing up, but to Indy fans, the only ones who make excuses are the teams that lose to Indy. I might point out the Steelers played Indy last year and as for the comments made above, the better team didn't win either, that being Indy, (by 4 points) during that game since there were a few lucky bounces and dumb plays. That is, afterall, how he described the Vikings loss to the Saints, right? Well then it holds true on all accounts.

Also you might want to add the Colts had 7 wins by comebacks. They could have had a 7-7 record by week 14. Also the most undeserving win of all time was the Miami/Indy game where Miami completely dominated and should have won and not to mention NE dominanted Indy the whole game as well and should have won. Didn't the Saints absolutely demolish the Pats? It didn't come down to a bad call on BB's part, did it? Nah, didn't think so. GO SAINTS!

saintfan 02-01-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 201804)
yea saintfan i wish zooey were a cheerleader for the saints, just saw the happening

She is...I have no doubt.

exile 02-01-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Stlrfan (Post 201840)
Also you might want to add the Colts had 7 wins by comebacks. They could have had a 7-7 record by week 14. Also the most undeserving win of all time was the Miami/Indy game where Miami completely dominated and should have won and not to mention NE dominanted Indy the whole game as well and should have won. Didn't the Saints absolutely demolish the Pats? It didn't come down to a bad call on BB's part, did it? Nah, didn't think so. GO SAINTS!

Colts fan silenced. Back to the Freeney discussion.

JoanieNTX 02-01-2010 03:46 PM

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I'm just wondering who the Colt's fans are over here trying to convince, and WHY? I'm not over there trying to antagonize them, for sure! I really don't care!

BTW, for any Saint's players who happen to read this: YOU GUYS KICKED BU** AGAINST THE VIKES, AND DON'T LET ANYONE ELSE TELL YOU OTHERWISE!

indy4192 02-01-2010 03:52 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
7 come from behind wins or really 8 because we were behind 17-6 to the Jets and came back and won that game. We beat the Pats, you lost to the Bucs. The Colts lost 0 games when the starters played and played the entire game, heck we even won when Dwight Freeney didn't play (vs. Houston). So yes you played the best game of your season on that Monday night vs. the Pats, the Colts have saved their best game for Sunday Feb. 7th. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

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Originally Posted by Stlrfan (Post 201840)
Also you might want to add the Colts had 7 wins by comebacks. They could have had a 7-7 record by week 14. Also the most undeserving win of all time was the Miami/Indy game where Miami completely dominated and should have won and not to mention NE dominanted Indy the whole game as well and should have won. Didn't the Saints absolutely demolish the Pats? It didn't come down to a bad call on BB's part, did it? Nah, didn't think so. GO SAINTS!


ScottF 02-01-2010 03:57 PM

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[QUOTE=JoanieNTX;201848]I'm just wondering who the Colt's fans are over here trying to convince, and WHY? I'm not over there trying to antagonize them, for sure! I really don't care!

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Exactly- shouldn't they be milking cows or watching Hoosiers (and that very uncomfortable Hackman-Hershey kiss scene)?

Keep crying about us not deserving to be here and the FIVE TURNOVERS. I call them take-aways, and we should have had 3 more.

You beat 2 seven loss teams with inexperienced QB's to get here- congrats

JoanieNTX 02-01-2010 03:57 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
yada, yada, yada!

indy4192 02-01-2010 04:01 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
What was the Cards record? Wow 10-6, that is so much better then 9-7 and those Vikings who were 4-4 on the road and had losses to whom...DA BEARS. yea you guys beat up on some tough guys. How glad are you didn't have to face the Cowboys again....

[quote=ScottF;201857]
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Originally Posted by JoanieNTX (Post 201848)
I'm just wondering who the Colt's fans are over here trying to convince, and WHY? I'm not over there trying to antagonize them, for sure! I really don't care!

QUOTE]


You beat 2 seven loss teams with inexperienced QB's to get here- congrats


Stlrfan 02-01-2010 04:02 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
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Originally Posted by indy4192 (Post 201853)
7 come from behind wins or really 8 because we were behind 17-6 to the Jets and came back and won that game. We beat the Pats, you lost to the Bucs. The Colts lost 0 games when the starters played and played the entire game, heck we even won when Dwight Freeney didn't play (vs. Houston). So yes you played the best game of your season on that Monday night vs. the Pats, the Colts have saved their best game for Sunday Feb. 7th. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

First off, I'm a Steelers fan if you can't tell by my user name. Secondly why are lucky wins for you different from other teams who are so called "lucky" and not better than their opponents? By YOUR definition, the Saints were not better than the Vikes, they were lucky. Hence, last year, the Colts were not better than the Steelers, they were lucky, fluke bounces, bad calls. Hey, this is all YOUR criteria. By your definition, that means the Colts are not better than the Pats, which I truly do not think they are. The Colts got lucky yet again by a bad decision by BB. The Saints completely owned them. No luck was needed for them to win. The Colts squeaked by. Are you saying the Colts are better than the Pats even though luck played a role? Quit blowing smoke up your behind. The Colts are not a team that is invinsible, walks on water or unbeatable. They aren't the greatest of all time, far from it in fact. Your disrespect to other teams including the Saints is laughable at best. Up until now, the Colts have had nothing to brag about except for countless post season failures. Win something this weekend first before relishing in your own hype.

JoanieNTX 02-01-2010 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stlrfan (Post 201864)
First off, I'm a Steelers fan if you can't tell by my user name. Secondly why are lucky wins for you different from other teams who are so called "lucky" and not better than their opponents? By YOUR definition, the Saints were not better than the Vikes, they were lucky. Hence, last year, the Colts were not better than the Steelers, they were lucky, fluke bounces, bad calls. Hey, this is all YOUR criteria. By your definition, that means the Colts are not better than the Pats, which I truly do not think they are. The Colts got lucky yet again by a bad decision by BB. The Saints completely owned them. No luck was needed for them to win. The Colts squeaked by. Are you saying the Colts are better than the Pats even though luck played a role? Quit blowing smoke up your behind. The Colts are not a team that is invinsible, walks on water or unbeatable. They aren't the greatest of all time, far from it in fact. Your disrespect to other teams including the Saints is laughable at best. Up until now, the Colts have had nothing to brag about except for countless post season failures. Win something this weekend first before relishing in your own hype.

^ What "he/she" said! (Wellsaid, Stlrfan!) Welcome!

indy4192 02-01-2010 04:10 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
No I believe the Saints were the best team in the NFC this past season and were leaps and bounds better then the Vikings. However if you look at the game, you can't say on that night the Saints were the better team. They got the breaks and saw the Vikings commint stupid penalities. The game should have never been close, it should not have come down to going overtime. In neither of the Colts playoff games were the Colts outplayed and "had to pull out a win". I would say right now the main reason the Colts are favored is that issue and this is the Saints first trip.

And yes this season we were better then the pats, they got destroyed by the Ravens and we did what to them? Lets also review:

Most wins in a decade....come on you know who it is....COLTS
Most wins in a row in the regular season....come on....you know...Colts
Superbow 41 winner.....SAY IT...Colts

Now help refresh my memory....number of division wins this decade by Saints?
number of NFC titles this decade by Saints?
Number of SB appearances by Saints EVER?
Number of SB wins by SAINTS EVER?


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Originally Posted by Stlrfan (Post 201864)
First off, I'm a Steelers fan if you can't tell by my user name. Secondly why are lucky wins for you different from other teams who are so called "lucky" and not better than their opponents? By YOUR definition, the Saints were not better than the Vikes, they were lucky. Hence, last year, the Colts were not better than the Steelers, they were lucky, fluke bounces, bad calls. Hey, this is all YOUR criteria. By your definition, that means the Colts are not better than the Pats, which I truly do not think they are. The Colts got lucky yet again by a bad decision by BB. The Saints completely owned them. No luck was needed for them to win. The Colts squeaked by. Are you saying the Colts are better than the Pats even though luck played a role? Quit blowing smoke up your behind. The Colts are not a team that is invinsible, walks on water or unbeatable. They aren't the greatest of all time, far from it in fact. Your disrespect to other teams including the Saints is laughable at best. Up until now, the Colts have had nothing to brag about except for countless post season failures. Win something this weekend first before relishing in your own hype.


JoanieNTX 02-01-2010 04:14 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
Let me just say this. If the Saints hadn't been playing the Vikes so tough the other night, the Vikes most likely would not have committed those "stupid penalties." I give credit to the better team, our NEW ORLEANS SAINTS! Perhaps the Vikes were "lucky" to score as many points as they did!

Stlrfan 02-01-2010 04:16 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
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Originally Posted by indy4192 (Post 201870)
No I believe the Saints were the best team in the NFC this past season and were leaps and bounds better then the Vikings. However if you look at the game, you can't say on that night the Saints were the better team. They got the breaks and saw the Vikings commint stupid penalities. The game should have never been close, it should not have come down to going overtime. In neither of the Colts playoff games were the Colts outplayed and "had to pull out a win". I would say right now the main reason the Colts are favored is that issue and this is the Saints first trip.

The game I watched between the Vikings and Saints was an outstanding game. The Vikings did have a lot of turnovers, but they weren't caused by the wind or some phantom turnover ghost. The Saints caused those turnovers, like any good team does. In my eyes, the team that wins at the end of the game is the better team. I didn't think the Bengals were better than the Steelers this year and statistically they were better, but the score indicated differently. They won, no matter how they won, they were the better team.

Oh Lord, you lost your credibility with all the "regular season" wins. You know what anyone outside of Indy says about that...woo. The Steelers have 2 Lombardis this decade dude, don't even go there with me. Like I said, win something this weekend and then we'll see. Until then, the Colts are just another AFC team in the SB.

braggbro1 02-01-2010 04:17 PM

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Are you guys aware that the outcome of the game isn't decided on a message board? The team that scores more points this Sunday will win and nobody here has any idea which team that will be. This is all just pointless speculation and clueless guessing.

breesfan27 02-01-2010 04:21 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
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Originally Posted by braggbro1 (Post 201875)
Are you guys aware that the outcome of the game isn't decided on a message board? The team that scores more points this Sunday will win and nobody here has any idea which team that will be. This is all just pointless speculation and clueless guessing.

You'd have to be an idiot to think an outcome of a game is decided by message boards. All this is, is fans voicing their opinions.

Only a moron would think that by us discussing the game, the Saints are a shoe-in to win. Everybody knows, the game will be determined by what team shows up. I have no doubt this will be a high scoring game between two high powered offenses.

I don't understand why everyone is getting so worked up about this. All games played before Sunday don't matter anymore. This is a clean slate. Stop over analizing things and just relax. You still have six days left.

indy4192 02-01-2010 04:26 PM

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A) How did your mighty D cause the bad hand off between Brett and AP there at the end of the first half? There wasn't a Saint player around?

B) How did the Saints D cause the Vikings to have 12 men in the huddle on that last drive of the game, basically taking them out of field goal range?

C) When the Saints do anything close to what the Colts have done over this past decade, then YOU will have some cred, as of right now, you are just a "lucky" NFC that made it to their first superbowl. Gee even a blind squirl gets lucky and finds a nutt every so often....

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Originally Posted by Stlrfan (Post 201874)
The game I watched between the Vikings and Saints was an outstanding game. The Vikings did have a lot of turnovers, but they weren't caused by the wind or some phantom turnover ghost. The Saints caused those turnovers, like any good team does. In my eyes, the team that wins at the end of the game is the better team. I didn't think the Bengals were better than the Steelers this year and statistically they were better, but the score indicated differently. They won, no matter how they won, they were the better team.

Oh Lord, you lost your credibility with all the "regular season" wins. You know what anyone outside of Indy says about that...woo. The Steelers have 2 Lombardis this decade dude, don't even go there with me. Like I said, win something this weekend and then we'll see. Until then, the Colts are just another AFC team in the SB.


indy4192 02-01-2010 04:27 PM

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Simple, because it's what fans do, that is what is great about this sport and this game, it allows us fans to get crazy.

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Originally Posted by breesfan27 (Post 201877)
I don't understand why everyone is getting so worked up about this. All games played before Sunday don't matter anymore. This is a clean slate. Stop over analizing things and just relax. You still have six days left.


Stlrfan 02-01-2010 04:34 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
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Originally Posted by indy4192 (Post 201881)
A) How did your mighty D cause the bad hand off between Brett and AP there at the end of the first half? There wasn't a Saint player around?

B) How did the Saints D cause the Vikings to have 12 men in the huddle on that last drive of the game, basically taking them out of field goal range?

C) When the Saints do anything close to what the Colts have done over this past decade, then YOU will have some cred, as of right now, you are just a "lucky" NFC that made it to their first superbowl. Gee even a blind squirl gets lucky and finds a nutt every so often....

LOL, again you didn't see who posted to you. It's me, the Steelers fan that said that.

A) I'm an outsider posting an outsider's view of the game I watched. The 12 men on the field has nothing to do with the turnovers the Saints caused the Vikings to have.
B) You're comparing the Colts to the Saints? Saints are an up and coming team my friend. They have a lot of talent on both sides of the ball. I feel for Indy when PM retires cause that will be the Colts demise.
C) I will take the Lombardi's any day over regular season wins. You can happily have that title and live proudly with it. I will happily have the Lombardi's.

I might add also, as an outsider, you are greatly overlooking your opponent, something I'm sure your team is not doing. The Saints are a better balanced team. I see this more of a close game and I'm actually seeing the Saints coming out on top. And if that happens, the better team will have won.

indy4192 02-01-2010 04:37 PM

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I respect the Saints and have said they are the Best team in the NFC and deserve to be here and have a very good chance of winning the game. I believe that if the Colts play their type of game they should win.

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Originally Posted by Stlrfan (Post 201884)
I might add also, as an outsider, you are greatly overlooking your opponent, something I'm sure your team is not doing. The Saints are a better balanced team. I see this more of a close game and I'm actually seeing the Saints coming out on top. And if that happens, the better team will have won.


SaintPauly 02-01-2010 04:38 PM

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Wow. I say that Indy's run defense is "suspect", and the roof falls in. Geez, awfully sensative on that subject I guess. Anyway, here's the deal, and let me say this for everyone in the cheap seats. THE REGULAR SEASON, DOESN'T MEAN CRAP IN THE PLAYOFFS. The Colts beat a number five seed, that wasn't supposed to get past the wildcard, to win the AFC, so there is a stat that isn't measured by the NFL. It's called HEART. If you love stats SOOO much, go check play off stats, and let's compare. By those stats, these two teams aren't that far apart.

And for the record, the Saints didn't get to this game, because they won a freaking coin toss. They won 13 games, before losing to the Cowboys. AND, we won two play off games to get here now. Blame it on luck, O.J., global warming, WHATEVER floats your damn boat! We are here, and we are NOT going to mail it in on Sunday, so you better eat your Peyton's, I mean Wheaties, and get ready to knock some heads.

You guys talk about how we think we are so great, and invincible, and the Colts have no chance? I talk about football. Matchups, plays, and abilities. At no point have you seen me running down the hall of B&G, in my Saints gear, singing WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS. I understand that this game can go either way. BUT, if you expect me to concede, that by your analogies, that you are right, and that WE don't have a chance, you should hit the door right now Indy fan. I don't concede a damn thing, and I NEVER WILL.

Now, with all that said, if you would like to discuss THE GAME SUNDAY, then I will be more than willing to do so. If you want to discuss the NFCCG, then I suggest you move your knowledge over to the Vikings board. They are still interested in talking about it, I am not.

spkb25 02-01-2010 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by indy4192 (Post 201832)
How did that balanced offense do against a sub par TB team in your own home? That "balanced" team should have lost at Washington, yep that balance is good....

Right- we won the game against the skins- i was there boss. Offense looked pretty good- Defense was another thing. Hard playing without like 6 starters, lmao.

Pats worked your d out, end of story.

That Offense led by Brees who is the leader during the reg season for QB Rating, and 3rd in the playoffs- well both times he is in front of PM. #1 in the reg season in O, 8 places in front of indy. 6th in rushing- 131 YPG. Indy is last, LMAO! You are 2nd in passing- us 4rth, a whole 10 yards behind you PG. Brees threw 1 more TD than PM, and 5 less INT's. Wait- why did he win MVP??? Everything I find continues to show him 2nd.

Alll stats-we could go on and on- point is we will find out Sunday. The Colts are a great team, with a great QB. It will be tough for us to win, but I like our chances against the Colts

Stlrfan 02-01-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by indy4192 (Post 201887)
I respect the Saints and have said they are the Best team in the NFC and deserve to be here and have a very good chance of winning the game. I believe that if the Colts play their type of game they should win.

Like I said, I see it being a very close game, but most of the Colts games this season were close and could have gone either way, so we'll see. Should be a good game. Back to the topic of Freeney, if it's true and he's out for the SB, I do see this hampering the Freeney/Mathis combo. Not trying to be disrespectful myself, but I'm not that crazy about the Colts D. In particular, the secondary. If it comes down to which D is going to win the game, I would put that in the favor of the Saints. If the Saints are watching tapes of the Indy/Miami game, they'll pound through the Colts D. That was one of the most lopsided unreal wins I think I've ever seen. While the Colts D has definitely improved, but it's not great. Freeney is a big part of that and without him, it may have more of a negative impact than you might think.

indy4192 02-01-2010 04:42 PM

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Well no they did get to the big dance by winning the coin flip, had the Vikings won the coin flip I am willing the bet they would have won. That is the problem with the NFL overtime system.

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Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 201888)
And for the record, the Saints didn't get to this game, because they won a freaking coin toss. .


indy4192 02-01-2010 04:47 PM

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The Saints don't run a wildcat like the Dolphins do. The Saints operate a more traditional offense, one that the Colts D has seen game in and game out this past season. I believe Freeney will play, at about 50-60% and on known passing downs. Having him not at 100% will hurt, but I believe we have the speed and other players to more then compensate.

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Originally Posted by Stlrfan (Post 201890)
Like I said, I see it being a very close game, but most of the Colts games this season were close and could have gone either way, so we'll see. Should be a good game. Back to the topic of Freeney, if it's true and he's out for the SB, I do see this hampering the Freeney/Mathis combo. Not trying to be disrespectful myself, but I'm not that crazy about the Colts D. In particular, the secondary. If it comes down to which D is going to win the game, I would put that in the favor of the Saints. If the Saints are watching tapes of the Indy/Miami game, they'll pound through the Colts D. That was one of the most lopsided unreal wins I think I've ever seen. While the Colts D has definitely improved, but it's not great. Freeney is a big part of that and without him, it may have more of a negative impact than you might think.


SaintPauly 02-01-2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by indy4192 (Post 201881)
A) How did your mighty D cause the bad hand off between Brett and AP there at the end of the first half? There wasn't a Saint player around?

B) How did the Saints D cause the Vikings to have 12 men in the huddle on that last drive of the game, basically taking them out of field goal range?

C) When the Saints do anything close to what the Colts have done over this past decade, then YOU will have some cred, as of right now, you are just a "lucky" NFC that made it to their first superbowl. Gee even a blind squirl gets lucky and finds a nutt every so often....

Let me get this straight... You are determining how well your team will do Sunday, based on the Vikings game? Or is it by what we've done in the past decade? Do you not have enough faith in your OWN TEAM, to talk about the match ups on Sunday? Or are you a closet Vikings/Favre fan?

As far as your blind squirl, it's spelled squirrell by the way, the Cardinals, the Bucs, the Seahawks, ALL played their first superbowls this past decade. So there are alot of nuts falling I guess. Also, you guys get your first superbowl since what, the late 60s, and now all the sudden you guys are experts on other people's organizations, and team abilities? We know about our past, and we don't need a Colts fan to tell us about it.

We have a superbowl to play Sunday. Let's talk about that. Let's leave the past where it is.

JoanieNTX 02-01-2010 04:51 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
I'm thinkin' Indy4192 is a Vikings fan in disguise as a Colts fan so he can come over and diss the Saint's fans. ;) He sure likes to take up for the purple people eaters, doesn't he?

I would like to comment on the Dallas game, though. I was there, too, and I do believe we totally underestimated Dallas. Could be because the last time we had played them, we went in and obliterated them in Dallas. Could be cause we were in a slump. If we had had 2 more minutes, we'd have had it in the bag, though. ;)

SaintPauly 02-01-2010 04:51 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
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Originally Posted by indy4192 (Post 201891)
Well no they did get to the big dance by winning the coin flip, had the Vikings won the coin flip I am willing the bet they would have won. That is the problem with the NFL overtime system.

Out of everything I said, THIS is the only thing you respond too. You are a coin toss from my "ignore" list.

Stlrfan 02-01-2010 04:56 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
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Originally Posted by indy4192 (Post 201892)
The Saints don't run a wildcat like the Dolphins do. The Saints operate a more traditional offense, one that the Colts D has seen game in and game out this past season. I believe Freeney will play, at about 50-60% and on known passing downs. Having him not at 100% will hurt, but I believe we have the speed and other players to more then compensate.

Right, I realize they don't run the wildcat, but you don't need to do that to have an effective run game. The traditional offense that the Saints run may be true for their running game, but it's their passing game where I think is going to expose the weak secondary of the Colts. In the POs, the Colts played Flacco who had a typical sophomoric year. He definitely can't be compared to Brees. Mark Sanchez who for a rook didn't do bad either, but everyone knew he wasn't going to win the game for them. Their best running back got hurt, he was shredding the Colts D. I watched the Pats beating the Colts all game long and the Pats D was suspect then. Freeney is definitely a difference maker. His loss will be felt, that's just undeniable. Reggie Bush is definitely better than Addai and Brown, well, not there yet. It should be an aerial display of epic proportions, though, that's for sure.

Stlrfan 02-01-2010 04:58 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoanieNTX (Post 201894)
I'm thinkin' Indy4192 is a Vikings fan in disguise as a Colts fan so he can come over and diss the Saint's fans. ;) He sure likes to take up for the purple people eaters, doesn't he?

I would like to comment on the Dallas game, though. I was there, too, and I do believe we totally underestimated Dallas. Could be because the last time we had played them, we went in and obliterated them in Dallas. Could be cause we were in a slump. If we had had 2 more minutes, we'd have had it in the bag, though. ;)

Thank you for the welcome! Always had a soft spot in my heart for the Saints. I think that's pretty much the general feeling too. Seems most want to see them win. Let's hope some of those saints up above are feeling it too! ;)

JoanieNTX 02-01-2010 05:04 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
Stlrfan, it's nice to hear that others admire and respect the Saints. This has been a long time comin', and this state, the players, and the fans deserve it. The Saints have the most devoted fans I've ever seen or read about, and it stinks that some people wanna come over and rain on the parade. Your opinion is appreciated. A forum is a place where people should be able to come and express their views in an amiable way, no matter what they are, but it sure is great when they go about it in a nice way. ;)

savoyk 02-01-2010 05:06 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
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Originally Posted by indy4192 (Post 201800)
No the saints won because of 5, count them 5 Vikings turnovers.

They're called takeaways for a reason smart guy.....Saint's D has been doing this all season long. Do some research! :bng:

SaintPauly 02-01-2010 05:09 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
Here's a legitimate question about the topic of this thread. Why was Freeney still in that game against the Jets anyway? The Colts were up 30-17, with 2 minutes left in the game, and they still have their BEST pass rusher playing in the game? What's the deal with that?

indy4192 02-01-2010 05:10 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
The Colts were able to shut down the Cardinals earlier this season that have a very good passing attack and did so on their home field playing on a short week. I think Brees will have a good day and will put up around 28pts, the question is can the Saints keep the Colts under 28 points?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stlrfan (Post 201899)
Right, I realize they don't run the wildcat, but you don't need to do that to have an effective run game. The traditional offense that the Saints run may be true for their running game, but it's their passing game where I think is going to expose the weak secondary of the Colts. In the POs, the Colts played Flacco who had a typical sophomoric year. He definitely can't be compared to Brees. Mark Sanchez who for a rook didn't do bad either, but everyone knew he wasn't going to win the game for them. Their best running back got hurt, he was shredding the Colts D. I watched the Pats beating the Colts all game long and the Pats D was suspect then. Freeney is definitely a difference maker. His loss will be felt, that's just undeniable. Reggie Bush is definitely better than Addai and Brown, well, not there yet. It should be an aerial display of epic proportions, though, that's for sure.


indy4192 02-01-2010 05:11 PM

Re: Dwight Freeney, star defensive end for the Indianapolis Colts, may miss Super Bowl XLIV with serious ankle injury
 
I agree 100%, but most other Colt fans believe that in the playoffs the game is never "over" but I don't agree and believe at that point he and some others should have been on the sideline.

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Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 201908)
Here's a legitimate question about the topic of this thread. Why was Freeney still in that game against the Jets anyway? The Colts were up 30-17, with 2 minutes left in the game, and they still have their BEST pass rusher playing in the game? What's the deal with that?



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