Keep hearing how Indy shut down the run in the playoffs...

gacoltdog · 02-07-2010, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by indybowl

Yes, I will give the Saints all the credit in the world. They have the firepower to make the best defenses look foolish. I just get frustrated by not hearing any credit for what this Indianapolis D has become.
I only hear arguments that the Saints D is better. IMO its obvious that your D is better at creating turnovers, the #s show that, but the more well rounded D is the Colts.

Bottom line, I can't say as a football fan one team has an obvious advantage. Ill give my dues, #1 offense and a dangerous, turnover machine D.

Can a Saints fan give any credit to Indy? I haven't found many.

Hey indybowl, check out colts.com if you want to hear who has a better D

No Saints fan is going to say good things about the Colts, why should they? They want to kick our asses. And I don't blame them, but I have always liked the Saints in the NFC. Today I will not like the Saints at all!

As far as shutting down the run, the Colts held the Ravens 50 yards below their average and the Jets 85 below their average.

ScottF · 02-07-2010, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by indybowl

Ye

Can a Saints fan give any credit to Indy? I haven't found many.

First, we are defensive because we sick of hearing how we are lucky to be here, so we spend our time defending our GREAT record and NUMBER 1 offense.

Second, what superlatives are left for Payton and Wayne, etc. ? No reason to state the obvious

Stiggs · 02-07-2010, 01:30 PM

Shee-it, we gots us some Reggie Bush to defeat that so-called "run defense"

ScottF · 02-07-2010, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I don't get it. They did pretty well against the Jets, but the Jets do not have a passing attack that would make Indy keep from putting 8 in the box. Neither does Baltimore, but here is the interesting fact- they let up 5 yards a carry to Ray Rice, and over 4 yards a carry to Baltimore. The only reason they did not gauge them is because Baltimore had to play catch up. The Ravens do not have a great passing attack either, and they still put yards together on the ground. I think our run game could be the difference. Anyway I have been saying this all week, but found the stats from the Ravens game interesting, because the media paints one picture, and I am not sure it is accurate.

Agree with everyone that stats don't mean anything. Jets and Ravens have great rushing "averages' because they can't throw. Yes, Indy held them below those "averages".
Someone should look to see if Balt and the Jets were over their passing "averages" in those games. Won't be me; I don't care.

spkb25 · 02-07-2010, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Agree with everyone that stats don't mean anything. Jets and Ravens have great rushing "averages' because they can't throw. Yes, Indy held them below those "averages".
Someone should look to see if Balt and the Jets were over their passing "averages" in those games. Won't be me; I don't care.

Well, I think I am pointing out to their fans that keep stating that the Colts stopped Balti and the Jets rushing attacks, but it really isn't accurate. Baltimore abandoned their run due to getting down, but they still had a good average for YPC, and Rice was averaging 5 YPC. That is an important stat in my mind. I disagree that stats do not matter- of course they do. They do not mean you will win or lose, but of course they matter- and the stat that matters most is points scored vs points against. If stats did not matter teams that were last in offensive and defensive stats would be in the super bowl.

ScottF · 02-07-2010, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Well, I think I am pointing out to their fans that keep stating that the Colts stopped Balti and the Jets rushing attacks, but it really isn't accurate. Baltimore abandoned their run due to getting down, but they still had a good average for YPC, and Rice was averaging 5 YPC. That is an important stat in my mind. I disagree that stats do not matter- of course they do. They do not mean you will win or lose, but of course they matter- and the stat that matters most is points scored vs points against. If stats did not matter teams that were last in offensive and defensive stats would be in the super bowl.

I feel you, Bra-- I wasn't arguing

spkb25 · 02-07-2010, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

I feel you, Bra-- I wasn't arguing

hahaha- My bad. I always enjoy your input Scott!

spkb25 · 02-07-2010, 11:22 PM

INDY????? Where ya at?

I was dead wrong lol. It was our passing game!

02-07-2010, 12:42 PM	#11
gacoltdog Colt fan Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Dallas, Georgia Posts: 27	Re: Keep hearing how Indy shut down the run in the playoffs... Originally Posted by indybowl Yes, I will give the Saints all the credit in the world. They have the firepower to make the best defenses look foolish. I just get frustrated by not hearing any credit for what this Indianapolis D has become. I only hear arguments that the Saints D is better. IMO its obvious that your D is better at creating turnovers, the #s show that, but the more well rounded D is the Colts. Bottom line, I can't say as a football fan one team has an obvious advantage. Ill give my dues, #1 offense and a dangerous, turnover machine D. Can a Saints fan give any credit to Indy? I haven't found many. Hey indybowl, check out colts.com if you want to hear who has a better D No Saints fan is going to say good things about the Colts, why should they? They want to kick our asses. And I don't blame them, but I have always liked the Saints in the NFC. Today I will not like the Saints at all! As far as shutting down the run, the Colts held the Ravens 50 yards below their average and the Jets 85 below their average.
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02-07-2010, 01:28 PM	#12
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Keep hearing how Indy shut down the run in the playoffs... Originally Posted by indybowl Ye Can a Saints fan give any credit to Indy? I haven't found many. First, we are defensive because we sick of hearing how we are lucky to be here, so we spend our time defending our GREAT record and NUMBER 1 offense. Second, what superlatives are left for Payton and Wayne, etc. ? No reason to state the obvious

02-07-2010, 01:30 PM	#13
Stiggs Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Shreveport LA Posts: 83	Re: Keep hearing how Indy shut down the run in the playoffs... Shee-it, we gots us some Reggie Bush to defeat that so-called "run defense"

02-07-2010, 01:32 PM	#14
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Keep hearing how Indy shut down the run in the playoffs... Originally Posted by spkb25 I don't get it. They did pretty well against the Jets, but the Jets do not have a passing attack that would make Indy keep from putting 8 in the box. Neither does Baltimore, but here is the interesting fact- they let up 5 yards a carry to Ray Rice, and over 4 yards a carry to Baltimore. The only reason they did not gauge them is because Baltimore had to play catch up. The Ravens do not have a great passing attack either, and they still put yards together on the ground. I think our run game could be the difference. Anyway I have been saying this all week, but found the stats from the Ravens game interesting, because the media paints one picture, and I am not sure it is accurate. Agree with everyone that stats don't mean anything. Jets and Ravens have great rushing "averages' because they can't throw. Yes, Indy held them below those "averages". Someone should look to see if Balt and the Jets were over their passing "averages" in those games. Won't be me; I don't care.

02-07-2010, 02:08 PM	#15
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Keep hearing how Indy shut down the run in the playoffs... Originally Posted by ScottF Agree with everyone that stats don't mean anything. Jets and Ravens have great rushing "averages' because they can't throw. Yes, Indy held them below those "averages". Someone should look to see if Balt and the Jets were over their passing "averages" in those games. Won't be me; I don't care. Well, I think I am pointing out to their fans that keep stating that the Colts stopped Balti and the Jets rushing attacks, but it really isn't accurate. Baltimore abandoned their run due to getting down, but they still had a good average for YPC, and Rice was averaging 5 YPC. That is an important stat in my mind. I disagree that stats do not matter- of course they do. They do not mean you will win or lose, but of course they matter- and the stat that matters most is points scored vs points against. If stats did not matter teams that were last in offensive and defensive stats would be in the super bowl.
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02-07-2010, 05:55 PM	#16
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Keep hearing how Indy shut down the run in the playoffs... Originally Posted by spkb25 Well, I think I am pointing out to their fans that keep stating that the Colts stopped Balti and the Jets rushing attacks, but it really isn't accurate. Baltimore abandoned their run due to getting down, but they still had a good average for YPC, and Rice was averaging 5 YPC. That is an important stat in my mind. I disagree that stats do not matter- of course they do. They do not mean you will win or lose, but of course they matter- and the stat that matters most is points scored vs points against. If stats did not matter teams that were last in offensive and defensive stats would be in the super bowl. I feel you, Bra-- I wasn't arguing

02-07-2010, 06:26 PM	#17
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Keep hearing how Indy shut down the run in the playoffs... Originally Posted by ScottF I feel you, Bra-- I wasn't arguing hahaha- My bad. I always enjoy your input Scott!

02-07-2010, 11:22 PM	#18
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Keep hearing how Indy shut down the run in the playoffs... INDY????? Where ya at? I was dead wrong lol. It was our passing game!