V. Green

SuperbowlSaints · 09-20-2003, 11:30 AM

the reason i ask all of these stupid questions, is because i have only been watchin the NFL since mid 1999 season, so i know a lot about football, but for me there is still a lot to be learned, beleive it or not, before the saints signed Victor, i had never even heard of him.

rusta · 09-20-2003, 12:14 PM

i agree that jay is playing some good ball right now but.....

i wonder if the chemistry between T-Buck and green would help the secondary, those guys played together for a good length of time as far as nfl standards go, they know each others habits and abilities

remeber in training camp when T-Buck and mitchell got into a fight, it was a result of arguing over coverage assignments

WhoDat · 09-20-2003, 12:18 PM

Hold on. Time Out!

Am I hearing people say that Jay Bellamy is playing great right now? Are you guys serious?!?! Bellamy made a couple of big hits last game, yes. He also got juked out of his pants by DAVID CARR on GOAL LINE D, and still missed a few tackles last week. In week one he showed why he is the Saints all-time missed tackle leader.

I think Bellamy is poo. He consistently misses tackles, and while he rarely gets flat out burned deep, he also rarely makes plays. I don\'t see him breaking up many passes, in fact, I usually see him rolling off receivers backs as they break free.

Victor Green is a good safety. He\'s played with T-buc. Give him a couple of games to learn the system and he\'ll be the starter.

JOESAM2002 · 09-20-2003, 12:53 PM

Whodat, my brother, you know I usually agree with you on every subject but I think you\'re only watching passing downs. You do remember that there are running plays too? He has done very well against the run. That is in my opinion. :P

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-20-2003, 12:57 PM

That\'s not an opinion Joe. That\'s a fact.

BrooksMustGo · 09-20-2003, 12:59 PM

Let\'s all get real, why aren\'t we just starting Brooks at safety. He\'s the greatest football player who ever lived, he can play both ways. He\'s big, fast, with unlimited athletic POTENTIAL. So why can\'t he start at safety?

JOESAM2002 · 09-20-2003, 01:05 PM

Since we\'re being totally moronic. I completely agree! AB for safety! We now can start the chant. :P Billy, will you lead us?

[Edited on 20/9/2003 by JOESAM2002]

SuperbowlSaints · 09-20-2003, 01:22 PM

no, how bout this, why don\'t we replace the injured Dale Carter with AB, and let Fred Thomas play QB instead, LOL

WhoDat · 09-20-2003, 11:01 PM

I can remember two plays when Bellamy came up and was really involved in a run. One was when the Texans were deep in their own territory. He delivered a big hit in the backfield or at the line and jumped up and down and got all excited. The next play I remember he was busy wiping turf out of his facemask and trying to find out where his shoes went... that was right after Carr scored.

I don\'t know how Bellamy can be good against the run if he is the world\'s worst tackler. Don\'t you actually have to tackle a guy to be considered good against the run?

09-20-2003, 11:30 AM	#11
SuperbowlSaints Registered Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 90	V. Green the reason i ask all of these stupid questions, is because i have only been watchin the NFL since mid 1999 season, so i know a lot about football, but for me there is still a lot to be learned, beleive it or not, before the saints signed Victor, i had never even heard of him.
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09-20-2003, 12:14 PM	#12
rusta 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 361	V. Green i agree that jay is playing some good ball right now but..... i wonder if the chemistry between T-Buck and green would help the secondary, those guys played together for a good length of time as far as nfl standards go, they know each others habits and abilities remeber in training camp when T-Buck and mitchell got into a fight, it was a result of arguing over coverage assignments
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09-20-2003, 12:18 PM	#13
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	V. Green Hold on. Time Out! Am I hearing people say that Jay Bellamy is playing great right now? Are you guys serious?!?! Bellamy made a couple of big hits last game, yes. He also got juked out of his pants by DAVID CARR on GOAL LINE D, and still missed a few tackles last week. In week one he showed why he is the Saints all-time missed tackle leader. I think Bellamy is poo. He consistently misses tackles, and while he rarely gets flat out burned deep, he also rarely makes plays. I don\'t see him breaking up many passes, in fact, I usually see him rolling off receivers backs as they break free. Victor Green is a good safety. He\'s played with T-buc. Give him a couple of games to learn the system and he\'ll be the starter.
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

09-20-2003, 12:53 PM	#14
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	V. Green Whodat, my brother, you know I usually agree with you on every subject but I think you\'re only watching passing downs. You do remember that there are running plays too? He has done very well against the run. That is in my opinion. :P

09-20-2003, 12:57 PM	#15
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	V. Green That\'s not an opinion Joe. That\'s a fact.
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09-20-2003, 12:59 PM	#16
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	V. Green Let\'s all get real, why aren\'t we just starting Brooks at safety. He\'s the greatest football player who ever lived, he can play both ways. He\'s big, fast, with unlimited athletic POTENTIAL. So why can\'t he start at safety?

09-20-2003, 01:05 PM	#17
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	V. Green Since we\'re being totally moronic. I completely agree! AB for safety! We now can start the chant. :P Billy, will you lead us? [Edited on 20/9/2003 by JOESAM2002]

09-20-2003, 01:22 PM	#18
SuperbowlSaints Registered Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 90	V. Green no, how bout this, why don\'t we replace the injured Dale Carter with AB, and let Fred Thomas play QB instead, LOL
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09-20-2003, 11:01 PM	#19
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	V. Green I can remember two plays when Bellamy came up and was really involved in a run. One was when the Texans were deep in their own territory. He delivered a big hit in the backfield or at the line and jumped up and down and got all excited. The next play I remember he was busy wiping turf out of his facemask and trying to find out where his shoes went... that was right after Carr scored. I don\'t know how Bellamy can be good against the run if he is the world\'s worst tackler. Don\'t you actually have to tackle a guy to be considered good against the run?
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"