New Stadium?

poydras · 02-14-2010, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Upgrades were made post-Katrina to bring the Dome into the millennium.

What' so wrong with "one of the toughest places to play in the NFL"?

Nothing.

Its in a great location. It's loud. It has seats, food, drinks, bathrooms, etc...

I don't see the need.

They need to redesign the bathrooms.

OldMaid · 02-14-2010, 11:09 AM

I know Smashmouth has a point and others about a new facility.

N.O. and the state has had so many wrong, half-ass things, but the Superdome was one the really good things. The SD still looks good. Now, I have not been to other NFL stadiums, so yeah, I don't know what the rest look like. I will assume the SD is still one of the better sports/concerts places.

By the time a SD is built, price could be about 2 billion-imploding old one, building new one, time away for team to play some where else.

Yeah, where else could a new SD be built but where the old one is.
SD has the Hornets/concert N.O. Arena. These two places together really are a good thing.

Bienville, ghetto land on the outer edge of the Quarters, is dangerous.
SD is safe to walk around because it has a busy main streets, Poydras , there. Harrahs is right up the street.
The down ramp coming from Met. is alright to drive down and the ramp going up to go to Met and that way is right there.
N.O. Shopping Center , which was really a booming shopping center, downtown for tourists and locals, office place, etc. a little before Kartina. It will come back.

Algiers, I personally would hate the new Orleans Saints to be at any address other than New Orleans, LA.
Algiers is not around any tourists destinations. Traffic on the bridge is the only way in/out and it is tight on a regular weekday.
Other NFL teams like NY Giants ,Jets don't really belong to NY. I never got with that. Why not officially change the name to NewJersey Giants, New Jersey Jets?
There are many points from both sides, but I like SD as it is, where it is.

SmashMouth · 02-14-2010, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

I know Smashmouth has a point and others about a new facility.

N.O. and the state has had so many wrong, half-ass things, but the Superdome was one the really good things. The SD still looks good. Now, I have not been to other NFL stadiums, so yeah, I don't know what the rest look like. I will assume the SD is still one of the better sports/concerts places.

By the time a SD is built, price could be about 2 billion-imploding old one, building new one, time away for team.

Bienville, ghetto land on the outer edge of the Quarters, dangerous.

Precisely why you want to bulldoze and redevelop guettoland... it won't be ghettoland after the new SD .... and also why you can't wait too long due to price increase in building costs.

poydras · 02-14-2010, 11:35 AM

I have to say that I like the SuperDome. All they really need to do is reconfigure the plaza level for football instead of being multi-purpose and do some upgrades and it will last another decade. Besides; it took us 44 years to break the curse on the SuperDome and now you want to move?!?!

Tobias-Reiper · 02-14-2010, 12:01 PM

The Superdome has a mayor advantage over all other football venues: it is sitting in the middle of a city that's built for and used to handle huge crowds in a small area, and has a whole array of entertainment services around it.

Stadiums like Jones Mahal which are basically a huge mall with a football field in the middle don't have any real competition for all of their extra amenities, whereas any amenity you can add to the Superdome would have to compete with the French Quarter and the casinos. When you go to the Superdome, you are not trapped in a huge area surrounded by a huge parking lot, as the Dome is pretty much within walking distance of everything Downtown NO has to offer.

Same with Superbowls: NO gets awarded Superbowls not because they have a state of the art stadium, but because the city can handle the crowds.

Also, moving the Dome from the CBD would negatively affect many businesses in the CBD.

So, just renovate the Dome if need be, and see what's up in 15 years..

Nemesis · 02-14-2010, 01:55 PM

I wish theyd put JazzFest in the Dome also. I cant drink right in the heat.

C17-BING · 02-14-2010, 02:35 PM

I don't think we need to get a new stadium, but those seats (except the loge 200 level) NEED TO GO!!!

It can't cost more than a couple of million to put in modern seats into that place ... At-least do that! I agree with most everyone else --- The Dome is BAD ASS ... We don't need to be "like everyone else" ... We just need a few modifications.

saintsfan1976 · 02-14-2010, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Psycho Sexy

I like our Dome!

Me too!!

Originally Posted by poydras

They need to redesign the bathrooms.

Yeah, those are some stanky-azz bathrooms!

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

The Superdome has a mayor advantage over all other football venues: it is sitting in the middle of a city that's built for and used to handle huge crowds in a small area, and has a whole array of entertainment services around it.

Stadiums like Jones Mahal which are basically a huge mall with a football field in the middle don't have any real competition for all of their extra amenities, whereas any amenity you can add to the Superdome would have to compete with the French Quarter and the casinos. When you go to the Superdome, you are not trapped in a huge area surrounded by a huge parking lot, as the Dome is pretty much within walking distance of everything Downtown NO has to offer.

Same with Superbowls: NO gets awarded Superbowls not because they have a state of the art stadium, but because the city can handle the crowds.

Also, moving the Dome from the CBD would negatively affect many businesses in the CBD.

So, just renovate the Dome if need be, and see what's up in 15 years..

Exactly.

jeanpierre · 02-15-2010, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

What' so wrong with "one of the toughest places to play in the NFL"?

Nothing.

Its in a great location. It's loud. It has seats, food, drinks, bathrooms, etc...

I don't see the need.

Great speech Bluto, cue the music...

Originally Posted by poydras

With stadiums running in the $1.5 BILLION range, yes, with a "B", it's not going to happen.

And with liberal celebrities concentrating on the Lower Wards and not bringing in working people (tax base), where will the real support come? much less recovery?

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

NO gets awarded Superbowls not because they have a state of the art stadium, but because...

I know, No open container restrictions! Great Food! The French Quarter!

Originally Posted by poydras

They need to redesign the bathrooms.

Ah memories of aborted handwashing as a Yat stands next to you and urinates in the basin...

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Let's hope this new mayor can do something.

Landrieu?!? WTF?!? Are you kidding? You made your argument in the first paragraph and destroyed it with the second; you, sir, should run against Mitchy next time! I'll be your campaign manager and we will win!

Originally Posted by C17-BING

I don't think we need to get a new stadium, but those seats (except the loge 200 level) NEED TO GO!!!

It can't cost more than a couple of million to put in modern seats into that place ...

There once was a man named Sherman Copeland...

Originally Posted by Nemesis

I wish theyd put JazzFest in the Dome also. I cant drink right in the heat.

Boudreaux, is dat you?

Originally Posted by poydras

I have to say that I like the SuperDome. All they really need to do is reconfigure the plaza level for football instead of being multi-purpose and do some upgrades and it will last another decade. Besides; it took us 44 years to break the curse on the SuperDome and now you want to move?!?!

Great summation...your honor, the defense rests...now for a Pat O'Brien Specialty DrinK!

saintsfan1976 · 02-15-2010, 08:13 AM

Good to see you back JP.

Oh, and both weekends of Jazzfest are in April this year - hopefully a much cooler April than May.

02-14-2010, 11:06 AM	#41
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: New Stadium? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Upgrades were made post-Katrina to bring the Dome into the millennium. What' so wrong with "one of the toughest places to play in the NFL"? Nothing. Its in a great location. It's loud. It has seats, food, drinks, bathrooms, etc... I don't see the need. They need to redesign the bathrooms.

02-14-2010, 11:09 AM	#42
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Stadium? I know Smashmouth has a point and others about a new facility. N.O. and the state has had so many wrong, half-ass things, but the Superdome was one the really good things. The SD still looks good. Now, I have not been to other NFL stadiums, so yeah, I don't know what the rest look like. I will assume the SD is still one of the better sports/concerts places. By the time a SD is built, price could be about 2 billion-imploding old one, building new one, time away for team to play some where else. Yeah, where else could a new SD be built but where the old one is. SD has the Hornets/concert N.O. Arena. These two places together really are a good thing. Bienville, ghetto land on the outer edge of the Quarters, is dangerous. SD is safe to walk around because it has a busy main streets, Poydras , there. Harrahs is right up the street. The down ramp coming from Met. is alright to drive down and the ramp going up to go to Met and that way is right there. N.O. Shopping Center , which was really a booming shopping center, downtown for tourists and locals, office place, etc. a little before Kartina. It will come back. Algiers, I personally would hate the new Orleans Saints to be at any address other than New Orleans, LA. Algiers is not around any tourists destinations. Traffic on the bridge is the only way in/out and it is tight on a regular weekday. Other NFL teams like NY Giants ,Jets don't really belong to NY. I never got with that. Why not officially change the name to NewJersey Giants, New Jersey Jets? There are many points from both sides, but I like SD as it is, where it is.
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02-14-2010, 11:15 AM	#43
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: New Stadium? Originally Posted by OldMaid I know Smashmouth has a point and others about a new facility. N.O. and the state has had so many wrong, half-ass things, but the Superdome was one the really good things. The SD still looks good. Now, I have not been to other NFL stadiums, so yeah, I don't know what the rest look like. I will assume the SD is still one of the better sports/concerts places. By the time a SD is built, price could be about 2 billion-imploding old one, building new one, time away for team. Bienville, ghetto land on the outer edge of the Quarters, dangerous. Precisely why you want to bulldoze and redevelop guettoland... it won't be ghettoland after the new SD .... and also why you can't wait too long due to price increase in building costs.

02-14-2010, 11:35 AM	#44
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: New Stadium? I have to say that I like the SuperDome. All they really need to do is reconfigure the plaza level for football instead of being multi-purpose and do some upgrades and it will last another decade. Besides; it took us 44 years to break the curse on the SuperDome and now you want to move?!?!

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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: New Stadium? The Superdome has a mayor advantage over all other football venues: it is sitting in the middle of a city that's built for and used to handle huge crowds in a small area, and has a whole array of entertainment services around it. Stadiums like Jones Mahal which are basically a huge mall with a football field in the middle don't have any real competition for all of their extra amenities, whereas any amenity you can add to the Superdome would have to compete with the French Quarter and the casinos. When you go to the Superdome, you are not trapped in a huge area surrounded by a huge parking lot, as the Dome is pretty much within walking distance of everything Downtown NO has to offer. Same with Superbowls: NO gets awarded Superbowls not because they have a state of the art stadium, but because the city can handle the crowds. Also, moving the Dome from the CBD would negatively affect many businesses in the CBD. So, just renovate the Dome if need be, and see what's up in 15 years..
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02-14-2010, 07:24 PM	#48
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Stadium? Originally Posted by Sir Psycho Sexy I like our Dome! Me too!! Originally Posted by poydras They need to redesign the bathrooms. Yeah, those are some stanky-azz bathrooms! Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper The Superdome has a mayor advantage over all other football venues: it is sitting in the middle of a city that's built for and used to handle huge crowds in a small area, and has a whole array of entertainment services around it. Stadiums like Jones Mahal which are basically a huge mall with a football field in the middle don't have any real competition for all of their extra amenities, whereas any amenity you can add to the Superdome would have to compete with the French Quarter and the casinos. When you go to the Superdome, you are not trapped in a huge area surrounded by a huge parking lot, as the Dome is pretty much within walking distance of everything Downtown NO has to offer. Same with Superbowls: NO gets awarded Superbowls not because they have a state of the art stadium, but because the city can handle the crowds. Also, moving the Dome from the CBD would negatively affect many businesses in the CBD. So, just renovate the Dome if need be, and see what's up in 15 years.. Exactly.

02-15-2010, 12:53 AM	#49
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: New Stadium? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 What' so wrong with "one of the toughest places to play in the NFL"? Nothing. Its in a great location. It's loud. It has seats, food, drinks, bathrooms, etc... I don't see the need. Great speech Bluto, cue the music... Originally Posted by poydras With stadiums running in the $1.5 BILLION range, yes, with a "B", it's not going to happen. And with liberal celebrities concentrating on the Lower Wards and not bringing in working people (tax base), where will the real support come? much less recovery? Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper NO gets awarded Superbowls not because they have a state of the art stadium, but because... I know, No open container restrictions! Great Food! The French Quarter! Originally Posted by poydras They need to redesign the bathrooms. Ah memories of aborted handwashing as a Yat stands next to you and urinates in the basin... Originally Posted by SmashMouth Let's hope this new mayor can do something. Landrieu?!? WTF?!? Are you kidding? You made your argument in the first paragraph and destroyed it with the second; you, sir, should run against Mitchy next time! I'll be your campaign manager and we will win! Originally Posted by C17-BING I don't think we need to get a new stadium, but those seats (except the loge 200 level) NEED TO GO!!! It can't cost more than a couple of million to put in modern seats into that place ... There once was a man named Sherman Copeland... Originally Posted by Nemesis I wish theyd put JazzFest in the Dome also. I cant drink right in the heat. Boudreaux, is dat you? Originally Posted by poydras I have to say that I like the SuperDome. All they really need to do is reconfigure the plaza level for football instead of being multi-purpose and do some upgrades and it will last another decade. Besides; it took us 44 years to break the curse on the SuperDome and now you want to move?!?! Great summation...your honor, the defense rests...now for a Pat O'Brien Specialty DrinK!
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02-15-2010, 08:13 AM	#50
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Stadium? Good to see you back JP. Oh, and both weekends of Jazzfest are in April this year - hopefully a much cooler April than May.