Charles Grant's trade value?

homerj07 · 02-19-2010, 09:55 PM

Or put in a CD. (I know I am a dinosaur)

BUT back to the original post.

He might have some - Maybe a third or fourth round pick??

D_it_up · 02-19-2010, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Choupique

If I have to explain to you folks what Grant has done for us during his tenure my first question would be how long have you been a Saints fan?

I'm more loyal to our players than some of you. I'm not a what have you done for me lately kind of guy.

He is going into his ninth season? He is at the end of his career.
Some of us recall what you've done, Charles Grant. Thanks.

Whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold the phone there, chief! Seriously? Did you just question the fanhood of everyone who has a personal opinion of Charles Grant? Just because people think it is time to move on from him doesn't make you more "loyal" as you put it. You aren't at liberty to explain anything to anyone on here with that condescending tone. What are the terms you like to throw around here so frequently? D-bag? Tool-bag? Questioning anyone's fanhood on here is just as much of a d-bag or tool-bag move. Just because you like Grant doesn't mean we have to bow down to you because you think he's great. Newsflash! He isn't. Not anymore.

Charles Grant was good his first three years, had a couple of years with 60+ tackles after that, and has fell off the map ever since. He has done absolutely nothing the last three years. He hasn't even averaged 5 sacks a season over the last five years. He's barely averaged over 40 tackles a season the last three. He's 32 years old, out-of-shape, and hasn't even come close to playing well since he signed that fat contract. The Saints need to cut their losses and let him go as fast he stole money from the team when he signed on the dotted line. The proof is in the pudding.

To answer your question of how long I've been a fan, it's been 24 years. It doesn't matter how long someone has been a fan. It isn't a "what have you done for me lately" attitude if the player hasn't done anything worthwhile in past five years. There is no need for you to be condescending to people in this forum just because they don't agree with you.

SaintPauly · 02-19-2010, 11:37 PM

^^^^ Yeah! What he said!

QBREES9 · 02-19-2010, 11:49 PM

I thank Charles but it is time to move on. Maybe we could get a 5th round pick for him.

CantonLegend · 02-20-2010, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

Whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold the phone there, chief! Seriously? Did you just question the fanhood of everyone who has a personal opinion of Charles Grant? Just because people think it is time to move on from him doesn't make you more "loyal" as you put it. You aren't at liberty to explain anything to anyone on here with that condescending tone. What are the terms you like to throw around here so frequently? D-bag? Tool-bag? Questioning anyone's fanhood on here is just as much of a d-bag or tool-bag move. Just because you like Grant doesn't mean we have to bow down to you because you think he's great. Newsflash! He isn't. Not anymore.

Charles Grant was good his first three years, had a couple of years with 60+ tackles after that, and has fell off the map ever since. He has done absolutely nothing the last three years. He hasn't even averaged 5 sacks a season over the last five years. He's barely averaged over 40 tackles a season the last three. He's 32 years old, out-of-shape, and hasn't even come close to playing well since he signed that fat contract. The Saints need to cut their losses and let him go as fast he stole money from the team when he signed on the dotted line. The proof is in the pudding.

To answer your question of how long I've been a fan, it's been 24 years. It doesn't matter how long someone has been a fan. It isn't a "what have you done for me lately" attitude if the player hasn't done anything worthwhile in past five years. There is no need for you to be condescending to people in this forum just because they don't agree with you.

but how do you really feel? :superbowlsmiley:

foreverfan · 02-20-2010, 04:04 AM

breesfan27 · 02-20-2010, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

Whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold the phone there, chief! Seriously? Did you just question the fanhood of everyone who has a personal opinion of Charles Grant? Just because people think it is time to move on from him doesn't make you more "loyal" as you put it. You aren't at liberty to explain anything to anyone on here with that condescending tone. What are the terms you like to throw around here so frequently? D-bag? Tool-bag? Questioning anyone's fanhood on here is just as much of a d-bag or tool-bag move. Just because you like Grant doesn't mean we have to bow down to you because you think he's great. Newsflash! He isn't. Not anymore.

Charles Grant was good his first three years, had a couple of years with 60+ tackles after that, and has fell off the map ever since. He has done absolutely nothing the last three years. He hasn't even averaged 5 sacks a season over the last five years. He's barely averaged over 40 tackles a season the last three. He's 32 years old, out-of-shape, and hasn't even come close to playing well since he signed that fat contract. The Saints need to cut their losses and let him go as fast he stole money from the team when he signed on the dotted line. The proof is in the pudding.

To answer your question of how long I've been a fan, it's been 24 years. It doesn't matter how long someone has been a fan. It isn't a "what have you done for me lately" attitude if the player hasn't done anything worthwhile in past five years. There is no need for you to be condescending to people in this forum just because they don't agree with you.

voodooido · 02-20-2010, 03:56 PM

He would be worth a 5th but who would be willing to give it? Huge cap hit if they trade for him. Why not just wait till we relase him and sign him for half the price. McCray is just as good and cost us 3mil + a year less.

Danno · 02-20-2010, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

Whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold the phone there, chief! Seriously? Did you just question the fanhood of everyone who has a personal opinion of Charles Grant? Just because people think it is time to move on from him doesn't make you more "loyal" as you put it. You aren't at liberty to explain anything to anyone on here with that condescending tone. What are the terms you like to throw around here so frequently? D-bag? Tool-bag? Questioning anyone's fanhood on here is just as much of a d-bag or tool-bag move. Just because you like Grant doesn't mean we have to bow down to you because you think he's great. Newsflash! He isn't. Not anymore.

Charles Grant was good his first three years, had a couple of years with 60+ tackles after that, and has fell off the map ever since. He has done absolutely nothing the last three years. He hasn't even averaged 5 sacks a season over the last five years. He's barely averaged over 40 tackles a season the last three. He's 32 years old, out-of-shape, and hasn't even come close to playing well since he signed that fat contract. The Saints need to cut their losses and let him go as fast he stole money from the team when he signed on the dotted line. The proof is in the pudding.

To answer your question of how long I've been a fan, it's been 24 years. It doesn't matter how long someone has been a fan. It isn't a "what have you done for me lately" attitude if the player hasn't done anything worthwhile in past five years. There is no need for you to be condescending to people in this forum just because they don't agree with you.

This^

Great teams would have let him go long ago.

You don't remain a Dynasty by being loyal to players who no longer pull their weight.

In fact, if I had to comment on the absurd "TRUE FAN" nonsense, I'd say a TRUE Saints fan is the one who can put his personal feelings about a player to the side for the good of the team moving forward.

My loyalty is to that Black and Gold Jersey, not the guy who wore it last year, or the year before.

Does Grant at his salary make our SAINTS a better team in 2010? Or would replacing Grant's enormous salary with a better player make the SAINTS a better team in 2010.

A TRUE SAINTS fan wants what's best for the team moving forward. Grant has been paid a King's ransom for his services, so I'm perfectly OK with the next great thing to come along. Thanks for all you've done Chuck, enjoy your life as a bazillionaire ex-Saint.

iceshack149 · 02-21-2010, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

McCray is just as good and cost us 3mil + a year less.

After watching the playoffs I'd argue that McCray is the better defensive end. The guy wrecked Warner and you know that Favre "remembers" him.

02-19-2010, 09:55 PM	#31
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Charles Grant's trade value? Or put in a CD. (I know I am a dinosaur) BUT back to the original post. He might have some - Maybe a third or fourth round pick??

02-19-2010, 10:19 PM	#32
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Charles Grant's trade value? Originally Posted by Choupique If I have to explain to you folks what Grant has done for us during his tenure my first question would be how long have you been a Saints fan? I'm more loyal to our players than some of you. I'm not a what have you done for me lately kind of guy. He is going into his ninth season? He is at the end of his career. Some of us recall what you've done, Charles Grant. Thanks. Whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold the phone there, chief! Seriously? Did you just question the fanhood of everyone who has a personal opinion of Charles Grant? Just because people think it is time to move on from him doesn't make you more "loyal" as you put it. You aren't at liberty to explain anything to anyone on here with that condescending tone. What are the terms you like to throw around here so frequently? D-bag? Tool-bag? Questioning anyone's fanhood on here is just as much of a d-bag or tool-bag move. Just because you like Grant doesn't mean we have to bow down to you because you think he's great. Newsflash! He isn't. Not anymore. Charles Grant was good his first three years, had a couple of years with 60+ tackles after that, and has fell off the map ever since. He has done absolutely nothing the last three years. He hasn't even averaged 5 sacks a season over the last five years. He's barely averaged over 40 tackles a season the last three. He's 32 years old, out-of-shape, and hasn't even come close to playing well since he signed that fat contract. The Saints need to cut their losses and let him go as fast he stole money from the team when he signed on the dotted line. The proof is in the pudding. To answer your question of how long I've been a fan, it's been 24 years. It doesn't matter how long someone has been a fan. It isn't a "what have you done for me lately" attitude if the player hasn't done anything worthwhile in past five years. There is no need for you to be condescending to people in this forum just because they don't agree with you.
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02-19-2010, 11:37 PM	#33
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Charles Grant's trade value? ^^^^ Yeah! What he said!

02-19-2010, 11:49 PM	#34
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Charles Grant's trade value? I thank Charles but it is time to move on. Maybe we could get a 5th round pick for him.

02-20-2010, 03:28 AM	#35
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Charles Grant's trade value? Originally Posted by D_it_up Whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold the phone there, chief! Seriously? Did you just question the fanhood of everyone who has a personal opinion of Charles Grant? Just because people think it is time to move on from him doesn't make you more "loyal" as you put it. You aren't at liberty to explain anything to anyone on here with that condescending tone. What are the terms you like to throw around here so frequently? D-bag? Tool-bag? Questioning anyone's fanhood on here is just as much of a d-bag or tool-bag move. Just because you like Grant doesn't mean we have to bow down to you because you think he's great. Newsflash! He isn't. Not anymore. Charles Grant was good his first three years, had a couple of years with 60+ tackles after that, and has fell off the map ever since. He has done absolutely nothing the last three years. He hasn't even averaged 5 sacks a season over the last five years. He's barely averaged over 40 tackles a season the last three. He's 32 years old, out-of-shape, and hasn't even come close to playing well since he signed that fat contract. The Saints need to cut their losses and let him go as fast he stole money from the team when he signed on the dotted line. The proof is in the pudding. To answer your question of how long I've been a fan, it's been 24 years. It doesn't matter how long someone has been a fan. It isn't a "what have you done for me lately" attitude if the player hasn't done anything worthwhile in past five years. There is no need for you to be condescending to people in this forum just because they don't agree with you. but how do you really feel? :superbowlsmiley:

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02-20-2010, 04:04 AM	#36
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breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Charles Grant's trade value? Originally Posted by D_it_up Whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold the phone there, chief! Seriously? Did you just question the fanhood of everyone who has a personal opinion of Charles Grant? Just because people think it is time to move on from him doesn't make you more "loyal" as you put it. You aren't at liberty to explain anything to anyone on here with that condescending tone. What are the terms you like to throw around here so frequently? D-bag? Tool-bag? Questioning anyone's fanhood on here is just as much of a d-bag or tool-bag move. Just because you like Grant doesn't mean we have to bow down to you because you think he's great. Newsflash! He isn't. Not anymore. Charles Grant was good his first three years, had a couple of years with 60+ tackles after that, and has fell off the map ever since. He has done absolutely nothing the last three years. He hasn't even averaged 5 sacks a season over the last five years. He's barely averaged over 40 tackles a season the last three. He's 32 years old, out-of-shape, and hasn't even come close to playing well since he signed that fat contract. The Saints need to cut their losses and let him go as fast he stole money from the team when he signed on the dotted line. The proof is in the pudding. To answer your question of how long I've been a fan, it's been 24 years. It doesn't matter how long someone has been a fan. It isn't a "what have you done for me lately" attitude if the player hasn't done anything worthwhile in past five years. There is no need for you to be condescending to people in this forum just because they don't agree with you.

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02-20-2010, 04:24 PM	#39
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Charles Grant's trade value? Originally Posted by D_it_up Whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold the phone there, chief! Seriously? Did you just question the fanhood of everyone who has a personal opinion of Charles Grant? Just because people think it is time to move on from him doesn't make you more "loyal" as you put it. You aren't at liberty to explain anything to anyone on here with that condescending tone. What are the terms you like to throw around here so frequently? D-bag? Tool-bag? Questioning anyone's fanhood on here is just as much of a d-bag or tool-bag move. Just because you like Grant doesn't mean we have to bow down to you because you think he's great. Newsflash! He isn't. Not anymore. Charles Grant was good his first three years, had a couple of years with 60+ tackles after that, and has fell off the map ever since. He has done absolutely nothing the last three years. He hasn't even averaged 5 sacks a season over the last five years. He's barely averaged over 40 tackles a season the last three. He's 32 years old, out-of-shape, and hasn't even come close to playing well since he signed that fat contract. The Saints need to cut their losses and let him go as fast he stole money from the team when he signed on the dotted line. The proof is in the pudding. To answer your question of how long I've been a fan, it's been 24 years. It doesn't matter how long someone has been a fan. It isn't a "what have you done for me lately" attitude if the player hasn't done anything worthwhile in past five years. There is no need for you to be condescending to people in this forum just because they don't agree with you. This^ Great teams would have let him go long ago. You don't remain a Dynasty by being loyal to players who no longer pull their weight. In fact, if I had to comment on the absurd "TRUE FAN" nonsense, I'd say a TRUE Saints fan is the one who can put his personal feelings about a player to the side for the good of the team moving forward. My loyalty is to that Black and Gold Jersey, not the guy who wore it last year, or the year before. Does Grant at his salary make our SAINTS a better team in 2010? Or would replacing Grant's enormous salary with a better player make the SAINTS a better team in 2010. A TRUE SAINTS fan wants what's best for the team moving forward. Grant has been paid a King's ransom for his services, so I'm perfectly OK with the next great thing to come along. Thanks for all you've done Chuck, enjoy your life as a bazillionaire ex-Saint.

02-21-2010, 12:10 AM	#40
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Charles Grant's trade value? Originally Posted by voodooido McCray is just as good and cost us 3mil + a year less. After watching the playoffs I'd argue that McCray is the better defensive end. The guy wrecked Warner and you know that Favre "remembers" him.

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