A Defense of Scott Shanle

Rugby Saint II · 02-25-2010, 11:36 AM

GW likes him........and that's good enough for me.

mikesaintfan · 02-25-2010, 12:07 PM

cant measure heart......we do seem to give up alot of yds to TE's though

saintfan · 02-25-2010, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Hyperbolic

In mathematics, the hyperbolic functions are analogs of the ordinary trigonometric, or circular, functions. The basic hyperbolic functions are the hyperbolic sine "sinh" (typically pronounced /sɪntʃ/ or /ʃaɪn/), and the hyperbolic cosine "cosh" (typically pronounced /kɒʃ/), from which are derived the hyperbolic tangent "tanh" (typically pronounced /tæntʃ/ or /θæn/), etc., in analogy to the derived trigonometric functions. The inverse hyperbolic functions are the area hyperbolic sine "arsinh" (also called "asinh", or sometimes by the misnomer of "arcsinh") and so on.

Does this really apply to Shanle?

We used to have a guy that posted here who used words like "hyperbolic", and "clearly" and "moreover" and all that crap. I hated that guy.

I also hate math, so now every time I see "hyperbolic" I get to double-down, so to speak. LOL

xan · 02-25-2010, 01:15 PM

fantastic analysis.

we could use more tape analysis when we bicker over performance. TV angles and limited view of the action grossly misrepresent the complexities of the game, and as such, tend to reinforce poorly constructed opinions.

TheDeuce · 02-25-2010, 10:44 PM

So what are you saying xan?

saintsfan601 · 02-25-2010, 11:30 PM

Somtimes not hearing a guys name during a game is a good thing.As is the case with Shanle.

TheDeuce · 02-26-2010, 08:04 AM

No, that's never a good thing a linebacker. You want a linebacker to have 10+ tackles a game. Shanle had 63... all season.

If it was an offensive lineman? Sure, never want to hear his name. But you're supposed to hear linebackers' names. When defensive backs are making more tackles than your linebackers, there's an issue.

Choupique · 02-26-2010, 09:22 AM

Sharper speaks very highly of Shanle and calls him under rated.

I think Shanle is better the the Monday Morning Quarterback Armchair Nation that has never put on pads gives him credit for.

SapperSaint · 02-26-2010, 09:57 AM

I was never a big fan of Shanle.

Until this year. I wouldn't say I am man crushing on him.... but he had a good year.

Yes, Dallas Clark kinda owned him, but who didn't Clark have a good game against? Besides, when it mattered Shanle made the play.

Now, I am not saying we don't need someone to fill his shoes.... because I was really hoping Dunbar was going to step up... but just as with every other position we need someone learn the starters jobs to take over and make it better.

CantonLegend · 02-26-2010, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

No, that's never a good thing a linebacker. You want a linebacker to have 10+ tackles a game. Shanle had 63... all season.

If it was an offensive lineman? Sure, never want to hear his name. But you're supposed to hear linebackers' names. When defensive backs are making more tackles than your linebackers, there's an issue.

tackles for linebackers are usually directly related to how good or bad your defensive line is

if the defensive line clogs up holes, then the LBs wont make tackles......if the LBs are makin a lot of tackles, it means that the defensive line isnt doing its job

and in pass defense, shanle most likely isnt going to be the first one to the ball if its thrown on the other side of the field......maybe thats coincidence or maybe shanle is good enough at pass coverage that QBs wont throw it to the receiver or area he is guarding.....in that case, hes not going to make a whole lot of tackles

usually a LB is the leading tackler on the team....but its usually followed by the strong safety and then another LB......thats how it is for most teams

02-25-2010, 11:36 AM	#11
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: A Defense of Scott Shanle GW likes him........and that's good enough for me.

02-25-2010, 12:07 PM	#12
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	Re: A Defense of Scott Shanle cant measure heart......we do seem to give up alot of yds to TE's though

02-25-2010, 12:33 PM	#13
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: A Defense of Scott Shanle Originally Posted by foreverfan Hyperbolic In mathematics, the hyperbolic functions are analogs of the ordinary trigonometric, or circular, functions. The basic hyperbolic functions are the hyperbolic sine "sinh" (typically pronounced /sɪntʃ/ or /ʃaɪn/), and the hyperbolic cosine "cosh" (typically pronounced /kɒʃ/), from which are derived the hyperbolic tangent "tanh" (typically pronounced /tæntʃ/ or /θæn/), etc., in analogy to the derived trigonometric functions. The inverse hyperbolic functions are the area hyperbolic sine "arsinh" (also called "asinh", or sometimes by the misnomer of "arcsinh") and so on. Does this really apply to Shanle? We used to have a guy that posted here who used words like "hyperbolic", and "clearly" and "moreover" and all that crap. I hated that guy. I also hate math, so now every time I see "hyperbolic" I get to double-down, so to speak. LOL

02-25-2010, 01:15 PM	#14
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	Re: A Defense of Scott Shanle fantastic analysis. we could use more tape analysis when we bicker over performance. TV angles and limited view of the action grossly misrepresent the complexities of the game, and as such, tend to reinforce poorly constructed opinions.

02-25-2010, 10:44 PM	#15
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: A Defense of Scott Shanle So what are you saying xan?
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02-25-2010, 11:30 PM	#16
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02-26-2010, 08:04 AM	#17
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: A Defense of Scott Shanle No, that's never a good thing a linebacker. You want a linebacker to have 10+ tackles a game. Shanle had 63... all season. If it was an offensive lineman? Sure, never want to hear his name. But you're supposed to hear linebackers' names. When defensive backs are making more tackles than your linebackers, there's an issue.
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02-26-2010, 09:22 AM	#18
Choupique 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,594	Re: A Defense of Scott Shanle Sharper speaks very highly of Shanle and calls him under rated. I think Shanle is better the the Monday Morning Quarterback Armchair Nation that has never put on pads gives him credit for.
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02-26-2010, 09:57 AM	#19
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: A Defense of Scott Shanle I was never a big fan of Shanle. Until this year. I wouldn't say I am man crushing on him.... but he had a good year. Yes, Dallas Clark kinda owned him, but who didn't Clark have a good game against? Besides, when it mattered Shanle made the play. Now, I am not saying we don't need someone to fill his shoes.... because I was really hoping Dunbar was going to step up... but just as with every other position we need someone learn the starters jobs to take over and make it better.

02-26-2010, 10:53 AM	#20
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: A Defense of Scott Shanle Originally Posted by TheDeuce No, that's never a good thing a linebacker. You want a linebacker to have 10+ tackles a game. Shanle had 63... all season. If it was an offensive lineman? Sure, never want to hear his name. But you're supposed to hear linebackers' names. When defensive backs are making more tackles than your linebackers, there's an issue. tackles for linebackers are usually directly related to how good or bad your defensive line is if the defensive line clogs up holes, then the LBs wont make tackles......if the LBs are makin a lot of tackles, it means that the defensive line isnt doing its job and in pass defense, shanle most likely isnt going to be the first one to the ball if its thrown on the other side of the field......maybe thats coincidence or maybe shanle is good enough at pass coverage that QBs wont throw it to the receiver or area he is guarding.....in that case, hes not going to make a whole lot of tackles usually a LB is the leading tackler on the team....but its usually followed by the strong safety and then another LB......thats how it is for most teams
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