Scott Fujita, the forgotten man that could slip away from the Saints

03-05-2010, 01:02 PM

I think NO will make an offer to him and he will take it. He wants to be a Saint....he will be a Saint. Besides, I like Fujita...a solid vet and a good leader.

Danno · 03-05-2010, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

fujita going to meet with the browns today

either way i'll get to root for him

unfortunately for danno......its not easy to upgrade players like that......if it was that easy we would've done it a long time ago......posts like that drive me insane because its not true at all

that goes for any starter.......if it was easy to replace them....then we would've ****ing done that already

Are all the dots some kind of morse code?

And yes, mediocre role players are easy to upgrade. Its called the draft and free-agency.

boonedocksaint · 03-05-2010, 03:36 PM

im ok w/ him walking if stanley arnoux is as good as i think he is

CantonLegend · 03-05-2010, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Are all the dots some kind of morse code?

And yes, mediocre role players are easy to upgrade. Its called the draft and free-agency.

nope sorry on both accounts

dots are called periods....they are a form of punctuation that you learn about in school

and starters are starters for a reason. they are not as easy to upgrade because they are starters. if they werent starters and were merely backups then you could probably make the argument that they are easier to upgrade because they dont get to play. but starters do get to play and therefore you need to find a player who can not only play as much as the last player, but do a significantly better job to call that new player an upgrade

not easy to do.....just like its not easy to get into the NFL in the first place.....just like there are only 24 starters on an NFL roster while there are 53 players on an active roster and some of those 24 starters will never relinquish their positions

so no matter how good you are, you may never start in the NFL and because of that reason, you cant assume that upgrading is easy

Danno · 03-05-2010, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

nope sorry on both accounts

dots are called periods....they are a form of punctuation that you learn about in school

and starters are starters for a reason. they are not as easy to upgrade because they are starters. if they werent starters and were merely backups then you could probably make the argument that they are easier to upgrade because they dont get to play. but starters do get to play and therefore you need to find a player who can not only play as much as the last player, but do a significantly better job to call that new player an upgrade

Jason David was a starter
Josh Bullocks was a starter
Mike McKenzie was a starter
Mike Karney was a starter
Jamar Nesbit was a starter
Kevin Kaesviharn was a starter
Courtney Watson was a starter
Sedrick Hodge was a starter
Aaron Brooks was a starter
Joe Horn was a starter
Jerome Pathon was a starter
Fred Thomas was a starter
Tebuckey Jones was a starter
Wayne Gandy was a starter
Montrae Holland was a starter

YES...upgrades do happen....Fujita is a mediocre player...easily upgradable...Or if you insist... Easily Replacable...Likely upgradable

CantonLegend · 03-05-2010, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Jason David was a starter
Josh Bullocks was a starter
Mike McKenzie was a starter
Mike Karney was a starter
Jamar Nesbit was a starter
Kevin Kaesviharn was a starter
Courtney Watson was a starter
Sedrick Hodge was a starter
Aaron Brooks was a starter
Joe Horn was a starter
Jerome Pathon was a starter
Fred Thomas was a starter
Tebuckey Jones was a starter
Wayne Gandy was a starter
Montrae Holland was a starter

YES...upgrades do happen....Fujita is a mediocre player...easily upgradable...Or if you insist... Easily Replacable...Likely upgradable

heres the thing tho......most of those guys were starters for several years......in fact...guys like aaron brooks actually beat out guys that we brought in to replace him.....aint that a b&*%#

while i agree with your assessment that fujita isnt all that and a bag of potato chips....he is one of our leading contributors both on and off the field and he does a lot more for us than his supposed replacement last year(dunbar) has done.

we bring in guys every year to help out and push our starters and for some reason.....they still start....arent you just the least bit curious why that is?

a first round draft pick is supposed to come in and start right away....and contribute heavily.....but it doesnt always work like that and using a pick on a player who may in fact back up a current starter is not worthy of the pick IMO

its much easier to replace a kendrick clancy who is starting because of our lack of talent at that position, not because he is truely starter material....having said that, he has performed admirably but he is much easier to upgrade than fujita or shanle simply because he was brought in to be a back up.....not a starter

Danno · 03-06-2010, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

heres the thing tho......most of those guys were starters for several years......in fact...guys like aaron brooks actually beat out guys that we brought in to replace him.....aint that a b&*%#

while i agree with your assessment that fujita isnt all that and a bag of potato chips....he is one of our leading contributors both on and off the field and he does a lot more for us than his supposed replacement last year(dunbar) has done.

we bring in guys every year to help out and push our starters and for some reason.....they still start....arent you just the least bit curious why that is?

Well obviously I don't want him upgraded with a downgrade.

Dunbar wasn't brought in to replace Fujita. Dunbar was a longshot undrafted free agent who barely made the team. OLB was the least of our worries for the past few seasons. We were a lot more interested in upgrading CB and Safety. You can't upgrade everywhere all in one season. Now its time to adress the weak links on this team, which in my opinion is DT, DE, and OLB, with Fujita being the weakest link at OLB.

Does this sound better to you...

Fujita should be relatively easy to replace with at least a comparable player, and likely upgradeable with a high draft pick or an upper tier free agent.

foreverfan · 03-06-2010, 08:47 AM

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FireVenturi · 03-06-2010, 09:14 AM

Losing Fujita wouldnt upset me as much as losing Sharper. If we have to choose between the two for some unknown reason, I would choose to keep Sharper.

I think we can find a replacement easier for Fujita than Sharper.

papz · 03-06-2010, 09:14 AM

While Fujita has been a solid linebacker for us, I'd have to agree that if he were to leave, he'd be easily replaceable with the players available via free agency and the draft. He's going to be 31 soon and his production is slowly declining. The market is rich with linebackers this year... I wouldn't mind biting on some of those RFA guys either.

03-05-2010, 01:02 PM	#11
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03-05-2010, 02:47 PM	#12
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Scott Fujita, the forgotten man that could slip away from the Saints Originally Posted by CantonLegend fujita going to meet with the browns today either way i'll get to root for him unfortunately for danno......its not easy to upgrade players like that......if it was that easy we would've done it a long time ago......posts like that drive me insane because its not true at all that goes for any starter.......if it was easy to replace them....then we would've ****ing done that already Are all the dots some kind of morse code? And yes, mediocre role players are easy to upgrade. Its called the draft and free-agency.

03-05-2010, 03:36 PM	#13
boonedocksaint 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 340	Re: Scott Fujita, the forgotten man that could slip away from the Saints im ok w/ him walking if stanley arnoux is as good as i think he is

03-05-2010, 04:27 PM	#14
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Scott Fujita, the forgotten man that could slip away from the Saints Originally Posted by Danno Are all the dots some kind of morse code? And yes, mediocre role players are easy to upgrade. Its called the draft and free-agency. nope sorry on both accounts dots are called periods....they are a form of punctuation that you learn about in school and starters are starters for a reason. they are not as easy to upgrade because they are starters. if they werent starters and were merely backups then you could probably make the argument that they are easier to upgrade because they dont get to play. but starters do get to play and therefore you need to find a player who can not only play as much as the last player, but do a significantly better job to call that new player an upgrade not easy to do.....just like its not easy to get into the NFL in the first place.....just like there are only 24 starters on an NFL roster while there are 53 players on an active roster and some of those 24 starters will never relinquish their positions so no matter how good you are, you may never start in the NFL and because of that reason, you cant assume that upgrading is easy
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

03-05-2010, 04:38 PM	#15
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Scott Fujita, the forgotten man that could slip away from the Saints Originally Posted by CantonLegend nope sorry on both accounts dots are called periods....they are a form of punctuation that you learn about in school and starters are starters for a reason. they are not as easy to upgrade because they are starters. if they werent starters and were merely backups then you could probably make the argument that they are easier to upgrade because they dont get to play. but starters do get to play and therefore you need to find a player who can not only play as much as the last player, but do a significantly better job to call that new player an upgrade Jason David was a starter Josh Bullocks was a starter Mike McKenzie was a starter Mike Karney was a starter Jamar Nesbit was a starter Kevin Kaesviharn was a starter Courtney Watson was a starter Sedrick Hodge was a starter Aaron Brooks was a starter Joe Horn was a starter Jerome Pathon was a starter Fred Thomas was a starter Tebuckey Jones was a starter Wayne Gandy was a starter Montrae Holland was a starter YES...upgrades do happen....Fujita is a mediocre player...easily upgradable...Or if you insist... Easily Replacable...Likely upgradable

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03-05-2010, 11:37 PM	#16
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Scott Fujita, the forgotten man that could slip away from the Saints Originally Posted by Danno Jason David was a starter Josh Bullocks was a starter Mike McKenzie was a starter Mike Karney was a starter Jamar Nesbit was a starter Kevin Kaesviharn was a starter Courtney Watson was a starter Sedrick Hodge was a starter Aaron Brooks was a starter Joe Horn was a starter Jerome Pathon was a starter Fred Thomas was a starter Tebuckey Jones was a starter Wayne Gandy was a starter Montrae Holland was a starter YES...upgrades do happen....Fujita is a mediocre player...easily upgradable...Or if you insist... Easily Replacable...Likely upgradable heres the thing tho......most of those guys were starters for several years......in fact...guys like aaron brooks actually beat out guys that we brought in to replace him.....aint that a b&*%# while i agree with your assessment that fujita isnt all that and a bag of potato chips....he is one of our leading contributors both on and off the field and he does a lot more for us than his supposed replacement last year(dunbar) has done. we bring in guys every year to help out and push our starters and for some reason.....they still start....arent you just the least bit curious why that is? a first round draft pick is supposed to come in and start right away....and contribute heavily.....but it doesnt always work like that and using a pick on a player who may in fact back up a current starter is not worthy of the pick IMO its much easier to replace a kendrick clancy who is starting because of our lack of talent at that position, not because he is truely starter material....having said that, he has performed admirably but he is much easier to upgrade than fujita or shanle simply because he was brought in to be a back up.....not a starter
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03-06-2010, 08:42 AM	#17
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Scott Fujita, the forgotten man that could slip away from the Saints Originally Posted by CantonLegend heres the thing tho......most of those guys were starters for several years......in fact...guys like aaron brooks actually beat out guys that we brought in to replace him.....aint that a b&*%# while i agree with your assessment that fujita isnt all that and a bag of potato chips....he is one of our leading contributors both on and off the field and he does a lot more for us than his supposed replacement last year(dunbar) has done. we bring in guys every year to help out and push our starters and for some reason.....they still start....arent you just the least bit curious why that is? Well obviously I don't want him upgraded with a downgrade. Dunbar wasn't brought in to replace Fujita. Dunbar was a longshot undrafted free agent who barely made the team. OLB was the least of our worries for the past few seasons. We were a lot more interested in upgrading CB and Safety. You can't upgrade everywhere all in one season. Now its time to adress the weak links on this team, which in my opinion is DT, DE, and OLB, with Fujita being the weakest link at OLB. Does this sound better to you... Fujita should be relatively easy to replace with at least a comparable player, and likely upgradeable with a high draft pick or an upper tier free agent.

03-06-2010, 09:14 AM	#19
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Re: Scott Fujita, the forgotten man that could slip away from the Saints Losing Fujita wouldnt upset me as much as losing Sharper. If we have to choose between the two for some unknown reason, I would choose to keep Sharper. I think we can find a replacement easier for Fujita than Sharper.

03-06-2010, 09:14 AM	#20
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Scott Fujita, the forgotten man that could slip away from the Saints While Fujita has been a solid linebacker for us, I'd have to agree that if he were to leave, he'd be easily replaceable with the players available via free agency and the draft. He's going to be 31 soon and his production is slowly declining. The market is rich with linebackers this year... I wouldn't mind biting on some of those RFA guys either.

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