Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints (Cleveland signs Jake)

stockman311 · 03-11-2010, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

I am NOT a Brooks fan, let me make that perfectly clear. What I will say, is that he QB'd us
to our first winning season, with a play off win. He earned his starting position, when he did that.
Now, after his second or third season of idiocy, YES, he should have been benched, but by then
Jake was already gone. Anyone remember Brooks' back up? Todd Bouman? He was TERRIBLE.
Brooks is gone, but at the time Haslett made the best decision for the team. The evil u know, is better
than the evil u don't know. Haslett and AB are gone now. If they bring jake back so be it, but I
just think we have more pressing signings, than the back up QB right now.

You say that right up until the point Brees goes down. Then it becomes the most pressing of needs. I think we all watched Game 16 this year against Carolina when Brunell was putting Meachem's life at risk everytime he led him into a defender and airmailed the ball 10 feet over his head.

saintfan · 03-11-2010, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

I think we all watched Game 16 this year against Carolina when Brunell was putting Meachem's life at risk everytime he led him into a defender and airmailed the ball 10 feet over his head.

Anyone that watched Carolina saw Jakie-poo do that to poor Steve Smith all year long. Jake is not a better option.

D_it_up · 03-11-2010, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Anyone that watched Carolina saw Jakie-poo do that to poor Steve Smith all year long. Jake is not a better option.

I sort of agree with what you are saying, but remember one thing. Steve Smith is the only receiving threat the Panthers have. Muhammad, although fairly serviceable at his age, still wasn't the answer for them as a #2 receiver. Jarrett was hit or miss. Mostly miss. Their tight ends leave a lot to be desired. In Jake's defense, he was trying to force a lot of passes to the only playmaker the team has in the receiving corps. Not to say that he didn't have a bad season, because he truly did. I just think there is more to it than that. It kind of reminds me of the Browns QB situation, but they have absolutely ZERO playmakers on offense and no offensive line and that makes Anderson and Quinn look drastically worse statistically.

saintfan · 03-11-2010, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

I sort of agree with what you are saying, but remember one thing. Steve Smith is the only receiving threat the Panthers have. Muhammad, although fairly serviceable at his age, still wasn't the answer for them as a #2 receiver. Jarrett was hit or miss. Mostly miss. Their tight ends leave a lot to be desired. In Jake's defense, he was trying to force a lot of passes to the only playmaker the team has in the receiving corps. Not to say that he didn't have a bad season, because he truly did. I just think there is more to it than that. It kind of reminds me of the Browns QB situation, but they have absolutely ZERO playmakers on offense and no offensive line and that makes Anderson and Quinn look drastically worse statistically.

Well I don't completely disagree, but Delhomme was not the victim of a bad team. The Panthers, while not the Patriots of late or the Cowboys of the 90's or even the Saints of last year are not a bad team. They are a decent team that suffered through at least the last year and a half of some of the worst QB play ever by a 'starting' NFL QB. The stats back it up. The wins and losses back it up, and the fact that they just took something like a 12m dollar hit to get rid of the guy should tell anyone all they need to know.

voodooido · 03-11-2010, 05:39 PM

[QUOTE=saintfan;212751] They are a decent team that suffered through at least the last year and a half of some of the worst QB play ever by a 'starting' NFL QB. The stats back it up.

We are not aking him to start. We are asking him to come off the bench and take over while Brees is out. Do you really think Daniels or Brunell would be better? You MUST be a AB fan.

saintfan · 03-11-2010, 06:47 PM

[quote=voodooido;212755]

Originally Posted by saintfan

They are a decent team that suffered through at least the last year and a half of some of the worst QB play ever by a 'starting' NFL QB. The stats back it up.

We are not aking him to start. We are asking him to come off the bench and take over while Brees is out. Do you really think Daniels or Brunell would be better? You MUST be a AB fan.

I think either Daniels or Brunell would do just as well as Jake, and I base that on Jakes performance over the past year +. The guy has done nothing but suck and suck hard. Did he set a record for INTS over that span?

As for AB, I supported the guy, yes. I'm no hater. I also don't see where that has diddly poo to do with this discussion.

st thomas · 03-11-2010, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Well I don't completely disagree, but Delhomme was not the victim of a bad team. The Panthers, while not the Patriots of late or the Cowboys of the 90's or even the Saints of last year are not a bad team. They are a decent team that suffered through at least the last year and a half of some of the worst QB play ever by a 'starting' NFL QB. The stats back it up. The wins and losses back it up, and the fact that they just took something like a 12m dollar hit to get rid of the guy should tell anyone all they need to know.

yes jake was horrid last year and half of the year before. why? he was running for his life every game and you are so right about the recievers they had. steve smith ain't all that like people think. he's if you ask me a dirty player getting away with pushoffs every game. every one else were like turtles in sand they could never get open so there went jakes career in pantherville.i really think we will be set for a while in saint kingdom. it could get us a draft pick after a year when someone could need a qb to finish a season.

03-11-2010, 03:48 PM	#1
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints Originally Posted by saintpaul25 I am NOT a Brooks fan, let me make that perfectly clear. What I will say, is that he QB'd us to our first winning season, with a play off win. He earned his starting position, when he did that. Now, after his second or third season of idiocy, YES, he should have been benched, but by then Jake was already gone. Anyone remember Brooks' back up? Todd Bouman? He was TERRIBLE. Brooks is gone, but at the time Haslett made the best decision for the team. The evil u know, is better than the evil u don't know. Haslett and AB are gone now. If they bring jake back so be it, but I just think we have more pressing signings, than the back up QB right now. You say that right up until the point Brees goes down. Then it becomes the most pressing of needs. I think we all watched Game 16 this year against Carolina when Brunell was putting Meachem's life at risk everytime he led him into a defender and airmailed the ball 10 feet over his head.

03-11-2010, 05:13 PM	#3
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints Originally Posted by saintfan Anyone that watched Carolina saw Jakie-poo do that to poor Steve Smith all year long. Jake is not a better option. I sort of agree with what you are saying, but remember one thing. Steve Smith is the only receiving threat the Panthers have. Muhammad, although fairly serviceable at his age, still wasn't the answer for them as a #2 receiver. Jarrett was hit or miss. Mostly miss. Their tight ends leave a lot to be desired. In Jake's defense, he was trying to force a lot of passes to the only playmaker the team has in the receiving corps. Not to say that he didn't have a bad season, because he truly did. I just think there is more to it than that. It kind of reminds me of the Browns QB situation, but they have absolutely ZERO playmakers on offense and no offensive line and that makes Anderson and Quinn look drastically worse statistically.

03-11-2010, 05:25 PM	#4
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints Originally Posted by D_it_up I sort of agree with what you are saying, but remember one thing. Steve Smith is the only receiving threat the Panthers have. Muhammad, although fairly serviceable at his age, still wasn't the answer for them as a #2 receiver. Jarrett was hit or miss. Mostly miss. Their tight ends leave a lot to be desired. In Jake's defense, he was trying to force a lot of passes to the only playmaker the team has in the receiving corps. Not to say that he didn't have a bad season, because he truly did. I just think there is more to it than that. It kind of reminds me of the Browns QB situation, but they have absolutely ZERO playmakers on offense and no offensive line and that makes Anderson and Quinn look drastically worse statistically. Well I don't completely disagree, but Delhomme was not the victim of a bad team. The Panthers, while not the Patriots of late or the Cowboys of the 90's or even the Saints of last year are not a bad team. They are a decent team that suffered through at least the last year and a half of some of the worst QB play ever by a 'starting' NFL QB. The stats back it up. The wins and losses back it up, and the fact that they just took something like a 12m dollar hit to get rid of the guy should tell anyone all they need to know.
	C'mon Man...

03-11-2010, 05:39 PM	#5
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,834	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints [QUOTE=saintfan;212751] They are a decent team that suffered through at least the last year and a half of some of the worst QB play ever by a 'starting' NFL QB. The stats back it up. We are not aking him to start. We are asking him to come off the bench and take over while Brees is out. Do you really think Daniels or Brunell would be better? You MUST be a AB fan.
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03-11-2010, 06:47 PM	#6
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints [quote=voodooido;212755] Originally Posted by saintfan They are a decent team that suffered through at least the last year and a half of some of the worst QB play ever by a 'starting' NFL QB. The stats back it up. We are not aking him to start. We are asking him to come off the bench and take over while Brees is out. Do you really think Daniels or Brunell would be better? You MUST be a AB fan. I think either Daniels or Brunell would do just as well as Jake, and I base that on Jakes performance over the past year +. The guy has done nothing but suck and suck hard. Did he set a record for INTS over that span? As for AB, I supported the guy, yes. I'm no hater. I also don't see where that has diddly poo to do with this discussion.

03-11-2010, 05:06 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints Originally Posted by stockman311 I think we all watched Game 16 this year against Carolina when Brunell was putting Meachem's life at risk everytime he led him into a defender and airmailed the ball 10 feet over his head. Anyone that watched Carolina saw Jakie-poo do that to poor Steve Smith all year long. Jake is not a better option.

03-11-2010, 08:45 PM	#7
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints Originally Posted by saintfan Well I don't completely disagree, but Delhomme was not the victim of a bad team. The Panthers, while not the Patriots of late or the Cowboys of the 90's or even the Saints of last year are not a bad team. They are a decent team that suffered through at least the last year and a half of some of the worst QB play ever by a 'starting' NFL QB. The stats back it up. The wins and losses back it up, and the fact that they just took something like a 12m dollar hit to get rid of the guy should tell anyone all they need to know. yes jake was horrid last year and half of the year before. why? he was running for his life every game and you are so right about the recievers they had. steve smith ain't all that like people think. he's if you ask me a dirty player getting away with pushoffs every game. every one else were like turtles in sand they could never get open so there went jakes career in pantherville.i really think we will be set for a while in saint kingdom. it could get us a draft pick after a year when someone could need a qb to finish a season.
	thats the fact jack!!!!!