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TopCow 03-13-2010 07:05 PM
Re: Mount Cody..2nd rounder?
 
We could do much better with a first round pick, especially in a deep draft. He is overweight for the same reasons that he has hot streaks and cold spells. He cannot keep himself disciplined on a consistent basis. I say pickup up someone of value in the first round. Not him.

CantonLegend 03-13-2010 11:25 PM
Re: Mount Cody..2nd rounder?
 
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 213025)
When you weigh 369 lbs, dropping 15 pounds is not that big of a deal. He could've easily lost 15 lbs in water weight inside a sauna the day before the weigh-in.

.. and there has to be a better term that "trim back" when you are 350+ lbs :)

.. that said, if he weighs 350 lbs, he needs only to stand in the middle of the field or fall on top of the guard..
you guys have this misconception that its easier for people to lose weight just because they have more of it.....15 lbs is 15 lbs regardless of how heavy you are

and take into account that the dude is much bigger, so everything he does takes that much more energy.



regardless, if its that easy to lose weight, then he can do it easily and stay at that weight for the entire season without having any issue right?

there are players in the league that weigh 350+ lbs and start and are good and have a consistant impact on plays

in fact, its harder to find a guy that heavy that doesnt start or have some sort of impact on the game

CantonLegend 03-13-2010 11:33 PM
Re: Mount Cody..2nd rounder?
 
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Originally Posted by TheDeuce (Post 213023)
O good, Canton has fixated on one prospect again. :rolleyes:
i like watching college players with exceptional skill at the positions that i enjoy watching......alex mack was one last year......terrence cody and gerald mccoy were 2 this year that i liked watching.....and id rather have brandon graham than either of them but he will be gone in the teens of the first round

mount cody might be available when we pick.....and the reason most players fall out of the first round is because they have questions that need to be answered......cody is one of many prospects who has 1st round talent but has a question mark on his name because of his weight at the senior bowl

before that and since then he has done everything in his power to prove that he is worthy of being considered in the first round.....1 week of his college career shouldnt turn you off of this incredible prospect

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The guy is a big clog in the middle, sure I'll admit that.

Plus, if you watched him this past season, you would have seen him constantly jogging on and off the field. Terrible conditioning. He usually could play a max of two plays in a row before he needed a breather.
conditioning is all relative......he is 1 guy and nearly every play he has to beat up 2 guys or gets beat up by 2 guys.....EVERY SINGLE PLAY he is a 1 man beast against 2 guys

now i know most of you have never played offensive line or even thought about watching the offensive line, but having 2 300 lb guys beat you up for 10 seconds every play while you are trying to beat them up too isnt easy....no matter how big and strong you are

st thomas 03-14-2010 12:17 AM
Re: Mount Cody..2nd rounder?
 
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Originally Posted by TheDeuce (Post 213005)
Too many questions about his weight, conditioning, and health in general. If Witherspoon is there at #32, I think we have to take him.
i to believe this kid will be a high risk take. once he gets that big payday the steaks and beer will be a second thought to him. witherspoon is the real deal i say we grab him if he's still there.

niteadept 03-14-2010 12:57 AM
Re: Mount Cody..2nd rounder?
 
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Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 213007)
cody shouldnt have weight questions......he dropped 15 lbs in 30 days to trim back to a 354.......
Ephedra or Adderall? Already had one that got busted last year!:wink: But if he can make a good enough case......

Crusader 03-14-2010 05:50 AM
Re: Mount Cody..2nd rounder?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 213058)
i like watching college players with exceptional skill at the positions that i enjoy watching......alex mack was one last year......terrence cody and gerald mccoy were 2 this year that i liked watching.....and id rather have brandon graham than either of them but he will be gone in the teens of the first round

mount cody might be available when we pick.....and the reason most players fall out of the first round is because they have questions that need to be answered......cody is one of many prospects who has 1st round talent but has a question mark on his name because of his weight at the senior bowl

before that and since then he has done everything in his power to prove that he is worthy of being considered in the first round.....1 week of his college career shouldnt turn you off of this incredible prospect



conditioning is all relative......he is 1 guy and nearly every play he has to beat up 2 guys or gets beat up by 2 guys.....EVERY SINGLE PLAY he is a 1 man beast against 2 guys

now i know most of you have never played offensive line or even thought about watching the offensive line, but having 2 300 lb guys beat you up for 10 seconds every play while you are trying to beat them up too isnt easy....no matter how big and strong you are
Good post. I play bot O and D-line myself and I know exactly what you mean when talking about the double team and fighting it. I'm still a little worried about his shape. I've played with guys that was 320lbs that didn't have a lot of flab on them, Cody however seem to have way to much of it. He would be a great clog in the middle however freeing up Ellis a lot more.

Loosing 15lbs doesn't have to be hard. I friend of mine just lost 12lbs in two week just by changing his diet and starting to exercise. Doesn't have to be any illegal substances involved in Cody's weigh loss.

SmashMouth 03-14-2010 09:14 AM
Re: Mount Cody..2nd rounder?
 
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Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 213007)
cody shouldnt have weight questions......he dropped 15 lbs in 30 days to trim back to a 354.......

in the NFL he will play at or just under 350

like you said, our biggest problem was stopping the run last year and that is what cody is best at....not to mention he could occupy blockers and allow us to blitz by those blockers

if anybody watched him this season then you know there are no injury concerns......there are no conditioning concerns.....the only question is weight......but why? because he showed up 20 lbs heavier to a meaningless game that he was invited to

then at the more important even he showed up at playing weight when he was 354 at the combine......there were no weight concerns before or during the season.....the only time that came up was after the season was over

but he didnt pull an andre smith and show up at the combine overweight, he learned his lesson and dropped back down

whoever thinks his weight is a problem absolutely ignores the truth about terrence cody. that truth is that he is a big guy and is going to help some team in the league.......do we want it to be us?

i say yes
Yes ... not sure on Cody ...if you were to ask him: "What have you been up to? ... and you answer for him .....ohhhhh about 400!?!?!?!"

The problem with Cody is that he may be friends with this guy here.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/un...fry_resize.jpg

falconhater 03-14-2010 09:24 AM
Re: Mount Cody..2nd rounder?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDeuce (Post 213023)
O good, Canton has fixated on one prospect again. :rolleyes:

The guy is a big clog in the middle, sure I'll admit that. But I have waaaaaaayyyyyy too many concerns about his "giant fat ass-edness" for me to feel comfortable drafting him in the first round. Obviously he's going to be motivated to drop weight now, but after he gets his millions, these types of fat slobs tend to let their weight balloon. That's not always the case, and maybe Cody will be different, but he did play well upwards of 350 this past season, so he's shown that he doesn't always control his weight. That's not a great sign for the future.

Plus, if you watched him this past season, you would have seen him constantly jogging on and off the field. Terrible conditioning. He usually could play a max of two plays in a row before he needed a breather.
Maybe we can pay him with cheeseburgers and gumbo and save some room under the cap.

Rugby Saint II 03-14-2010 05:22 PM
Re: Mount Cody..2nd rounder?
 
I believe that other space eaters will be available that could have better potential. I'm thinking about DE for the most improvement and immediate impact....OLB is a need for the Saints serious attention as well.

CantonLegend 03-14-2010 05:27 PM
Re: Mount Cody..2nd rounder?
 
the issue is that there isnt one bad thing about him other than his weight issues

nobody has had one legitimate argument for why we shouldnt take him except his weight

i'll offer this question

a 340lb mount cody is worth a 32 overall pick? it doesnt have to be us.....but is there a team that would take him confidently at #32 if he weighed in at around 340?


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