Mount Cody..2nd rounder?
 

They are saying on NFL network that he will probably slip to the 2nd round...if he is there at 32 ..do we take this kid?...I worrry about his weight..i have Jonanthan Sullivan flashbacks..lol...but he is stout against the run..any thoughts?

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I think he'd be a healthand injury concern. someone that big probably can't last too long on the field. NFL shoud have some limits on health.

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He would definitely help stop those runs up the middle. That seemed to be out biggest problem on defense last year.

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If we did take him then Canton's respect level on this board would depend entirely on Cody making it more than 2 years on the Saints roster before he completely devours his own body and the third string QB.

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Too many questions about his weight, conditioning, and health in general. If Witherspoon is there at #32, I think we have to take him.

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cody shouldnt have weight questions......he dropped 15 lbs in 30 days to trim back to a 354.......

in the NFL he will play at or just under 350

like you said, our biggest problem was stopping the run last year and that is what cody is best at....not to mention he could occupy blockers and allow us to blitz by those blockers

if anybody watched him this season then you know there are no injury concerns......there are no conditioning concerns.....the only question is weight......but why? because he showed up 20 lbs heavier to a meaningless game that he was invited to

then at the more important even he showed up at playing weight when he was 354 at the combine......there were no weight concerns before or during the season.....the only time that came up was after the season was over

but he didnt pull an andre smith and show up at the combine overweight, he learned his lesson and dropped back down

whoever thinks his weight is a problem absolutely ignores the truth about terrence cody. that truth is that he is a big guy and is going to help some team in the league.......do we want it to be us?

i say yes

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just heard cody weighs 348 lbs at alabama's pro day

said he wants to weigh 340 by the draft date

said he is working very hard to stay in shape and is constantly conditioning

he realizes this is his job and hes going to have to stay in shape in order to play it

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He won't slip to the last half of the second round.

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O good, Canton has fixated on one prospect again. :rolleyes:

The guy is a big clog in the middle, sure I'll admit that. But I have waaaaaaayyyyyy too many concerns about his "giant fat ass-edness" for me to feel comfortable drafting him in the first round. Obviously he's going to be motivated to drop weight now, but after he gets his millions, these types of fat slobs tend to let their weight balloon. That's not always the case, and maybe Cody will be different, but he did play well upwards of 350 this past season, so he's shown that he doesn't always control his weight. That's not a great sign for the future.

Plus, if you watched him this past season, you would have seen him constantly jogging on and off the field. Terrible conditioning. He usually could play a max of two plays in a row before he needed a breather.

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When you weigh 369 lbs, dropping 15 pounds is not that big of a deal. He could've easily lost 15 lbs in water weight inside a sauna the day before the weigh-in.

.. and there has to be a better term that "trim back" when you are 350+ lbs :)

.. that said, if he weighs 350 lbs, he needs only to stand in the middle of the field or fall on top of the guard..

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We could do much better with a first round pick, especially in a deep draft. He is overweight for the same reasons that he has hot streaks and cold spells. He cannot keep himself disciplined on a consistent basis. I say pickup up someone of value in the first round. Not him.

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you guys have this misconception that its easier for people to lose weight just because they have more of it.....15 lbs is 15 lbs regardless of how heavy you are

and take into account that the dude is much bigger, so everything he does takes that much more energy.



regardless, if its that easy to lose weight, then he can do it easily and stay at that weight for the entire season without having any issue right?

there are players in the league that weigh 350+ lbs and start and are good and have a consistant impact on plays

in fact, its harder to find a guy that heavy that doesnt start or have some sort of impact on the game

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i like watching college players with exceptional skill at the positions that i enjoy watching......alex mack was one last year......terrence cody and gerald mccoy were 2 this year that i liked watching.....and id rather have brandon graham than either of them but he will be gone in the teens of the first round

mount cody might be available when we pick.....and the reason most players fall out of the first round is because they have questions that need to be answered......cody is one of many prospects who has 1st round talent but has a question mark on his name because of his weight at the senior bowl

before that and since then he has done everything in his power to prove that he is worthy of being considered in the first round.....1 week of his college career shouldnt turn you off of this incredible prospect

conditioning is all relative......he is 1 guy and nearly every play he has to beat up 2 guys or gets beat up by 2 guys.....EVERY SINGLE PLAY he is a 1 man beast against 2 guys

now i know most of you have never played offensive line or even thought about watching the offensive line, but having 2 300 lb guys beat you up for 10 seconds every play while you are trying to beat them up too isnt easy....no matter how big and strong you are

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i to believe this kid will be a high risk take. once he gets that big payday the steaks and beer will be a second thought to him. witherspoon is the real deal i say we grab him if he's still there.

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Ephedra or Adderall? Already had one that got busted last year!:wink: But if he can make a good enough case......

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Good post. I play bot O and D-line myself and I know exactly what you mean when talking about the double team and fighting it. I'm still a little worried about his shape. I've played with guys that was 320lbs that didn't have a lot of flab on them, Cody however seem to have way to much of it. He would be a great clog in the middle however freeing up Ellis a lot more.

Loosing 15lbs doesn't have to be hard. I friend of mine just lost 12lbs in two week just by changing his diet and starting to exercise. Doesn't have to be any illegal substances involved in Cody's weigh loss.

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Yes ... not sure on Cody ...if you were to ask him: "What have you been up to? ... and you answer for him .....ohhhhh about 400!?!?!?!"

The problem with Cody is that he may be friends with this guy here.

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Maybe we can pay him with cheeseburgers and gumbo and save some room under the cap.

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I believe that other space eaters will be available that could have better potential. I'm thinking about DE for the most improvement and immediate impact....OLB is a need for the Saints serious attention as well.

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the issue is that there isnt one bad thing about him other than his weight issues

nobody has had one legitimate argument for why we shouldnt take him except his weight

i'll offer this question

a 340lb mount cody is worth a 32 overall pick? it doesnt have to be us.....but is there a team that would take him confidently at #32 if he weighed in at around 340?

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No one is saying it is easier, but not all 15 lbs are created equal :)
Ever heard the term "cut weight"? That's what fighters do, and more often than not includes dehydrating themselves a day before the weigh-in to shed 5-10 lbs of water to make the weight for the fight.

You also have to consider the size of the individual. Losing 15 lbs where you are 364 lbs is not the same as losing 15 lbs when you are say 200 lbs: the percentage of water+fat+muscle mass loss would be much higher in a person who weighs less.

In any case, I wouldn't mind seeing Cody in B&G with the 32nd pick. One minicap with the Saints and he'll be either dead or a svelte 300 lbs :)

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I find it hard to believe this kid can keep the weight off..but that may not be a bad thing...He might play fine with it..its the conditioning that scares me...its a long season when you have to play 19 games.;)

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All this weight stuff... just get the man some Star Caps.

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He's got bigger man boobs than Canton. I'd say pass.

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All you have to do is watch biggest loser every season to understand that the first 15 pounds are the easiest to drop. You body is shocked up to that point. It wants to attain a level of homeostasis so it's starts fighting the weight loss after that first week or so. The last 15 lbs of fat are the hardest to drop, and usually are centered in the glutes and the abdomen.

And that picture of Cody is gross by the way. Pass!

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If no one is there that we want in the 1st then trade back and draft him mid second.

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Warren Sapp played heavy his entire career, and look at the damage he did in the middle. I like Cody too. I think if he's there, and he's the best DT on the board, then take him. We need a DT in the first round in my opinion.

And consider this, at least Grant won't be around to show him where all the restaraunts are.

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If you take him at # 32 he needs a full time Weight watcher equipted with one of those Cattle pronges they zap the raptors with from Jurassic Park to maintain his weight, He'll be a beast for someone but he's a Fatty and if theres one thing I know about Fat people is that they love to eat, Imagine what he's gonna do in the bayou,

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I watched this guy dominate o-lines in the sec. He would be worth a 2rder. We could trade out of the first and get a rd2 and a rd4.

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i know this is common sense but i feel like its been lost in the thought of drafting defensive linemen

THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BIG.....the bigger the better

of course they arent supposed to be slobs....but cody proved he isnt a slob in college.....the picture of him isnt going to be the prettiest thing.....the dude is 350 lbs....hes not going to have abs of steel people

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How did he prove he wasn't a slob? He was listed at over 360 and played at well over that weight. He was real good in college because a lot of college linemen simply weren't big enough to take care of him.

It's not that I don't think Cody will be a good player in the NFL, I just don't think he'd be the right choice at #32. Here are my reasons:

1) He's a fat slob, and fat slobs don't tend to all of a sudden get their skinny on. He obviously has some motivation right now to lose 15 pounds because he can make millions of dollars. However, once he gets his money, something tells me that he'll go back to his fat-assedness (not that he's really departed from his ways).
2) We can debate all you want, but I'm telling you as simply as I can, a guy who is as big as Cody is fits better in a 3-4 defense. Can he play a 4-3? Probably. But a 4-3 requires a little more speed. A nose tackle in a 3-4 requires a guy who can eat space. If we're going to pay a guy first-round money, I want to make sure he's going to be a good fit for our defense.
3) We just won a Super Bowl, so we obviously don't have too many holes. I say we just build depth and take the best player available. I think there will be some good OLBs there and probably some DEs. I think Cody is a stretch.

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ok,I'm a little confused here.. so a guy who can eat space is NOT good in a 4-3? Eating space in the middle of the field is not a good thing in a 4-line but it is in a 3-line? Someone should've told that to Refrigerator...

..and who's these "we" paying first-round money?

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What part of "he's not AS GOOD in a 4-3 as he'd be in a 3-4" do you not understand? A nose tackle in a 3-4's primary responsibility is to take up blockers in the middle and free up linebackers (ex. Wilfork, Pickett, etc). Defensive tackles in a 4-3 are supposed to be a little more mobile.


"Who's these we paying first-round money"? English please.

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in a league where the spread offense dominates(pass offense) a run stuffing DT started for one of the better defenses in the nation

now i have no argument to prove or disprove that signing a contract will end his motivation.....but what proof do you have that he wont continue to work hard? you dont.....so this is only speculation....and speculation is just like assuming....you know what they say about people that assume stuff

what happened to all the big guys before the 3-4 came into the league? i guess they never had a job right? wrong....the 3-4 is an adaptation of the 4-3 not a complete re-invention

you are tellin me that there isnt a single thing that terrence cody could help us with? now im no doctor...but the 21st ranked run defense isnt going to scare anybody...like i said before.....we know why our pass defense struggled....because jabari greer and tracy porter missed time

well why did our run defense struggle? which leads me to your next point....dont smoke crack

not too many holes? 26th ranked pass defense and 21st ranked rush defense

oh and we lost our starting LB, DE, possibly FS, and we have yet to find a consistant NT to play opposite sedrick ellis

now i know we are the perfect team and cant possibly get any better because we won the super bowl after 44 years of disappointment......but wtf are you talking about

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and reggie bush is a running back so he has to run up the middle and take 20 carries per game

a position is not defined by what is written on paper.....a position is defined by the player that plays it and the coach that coaches it

why wouldnt a big guy help in a 4-3 that blitzes as much as a 3-4? after all, that is the main reason that the DTs are so big right?

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plus if we draft him we already have a mount cody smiley

:phat:

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Cody was pretty dominate in college. My problem with him is he wont be able to stay on the field long enough. The guy has to improve his cardio.... for those who have seen "Zombie Land" you will know what I mean when I say.he needs to follow RULE #1....lol

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Indeed...im starting a Zombie thread..lol

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Sorry. English is my 3rd language. How is it that you say? You are not paying anyone anything.

Here's your argument:
You: "this apple is rotten".
I (using proper first noun here, uh?):"Why do think this apple is rotten?
You: "What part of 'this apple is rotten' you don't understand?"

In other words, what I am asking is: why is it that a tackle in a 4-3 needs to be "a little more mobile"? And what exactly is it you mean by "a little more mobile"? Is it like saying a woman is "a little pregnant"? Or like saying "missed it by that much"?