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Too many times, the media always focuses on the big names of any franchise, and there are many players that have played that were Pretty Damn Good in their own right.. So the question is:

Who is a former Saints player that you want fans of other teams to know about?

I plan to do a show called "The Hall of Very Good" which will include a team by team pick of "Who You Should Know About"

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Eric Martin

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Good choice, D_it_up. From that same era, I'd say Hobby Brenner. When I think of Saints tight ends, that's always who I think of first.

And then, Dalton Hilliard. He was overshadowed by Ruben Mayes early on in his career, and Injuries later, and he still held the Saints record for touchdowns for more than a decade until Deuce broke that one.

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Thanks, 21. I loved that guy. He wasn't the flashiest or the fastest, but that guy could catch the kitchen sink if the ball was thrown in his direction. He was a really underrated as a receiver and still ranks as my favorite wideout the Saints have ever had.

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Chuck Muncie

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Chuck Muncie is well known as a Charger.


D_it_up has a really good suggestion in Moe.

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Unfortunately, I can only think of about a million. How far do you want to go back. Here's a name from the past that just popped into my head...

Joe Feiderspeil (sp?)

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And tough too. Many of his catches ended up going across the middle.

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Kyle Turley (I guess the Jets fans already know about him.)

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Tony "can you take a check" Elliott.

I'm glad the Bears found out about Josh Bullocks. :bng:

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Sammy Knight. Everyone thinks of only the muffed punt in our first playoff win in franchise history but Sammy had 3 picks including 1 inside the 10 when the Rams were ready to score.

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Jason David?

Seriously, I like the Eric Martin idea. Also, Frank Warren should get more attention than he does.

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Stan Brock and center Joel Hilgenberg, two guys who played 13 and 10 seasons respectively on the offensive line for New Orleans. Playing a decade or more for one team is almost unheard of now in the NFL.

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I would have to second this one Primarily Stan Brock. An Anchor on the OL for years and when he did leave he helped San Diego to the super bowl. ( Where he got his lunch served to him by none othe than Rickey Jackson) Ironicly. He now is the Head Coach for ARMY.

Also Id like to VETO the Kyle Turley vote based on character. He was the down fall of a fairly good team in the Hasslett era,. Dude was a cancer in the locker room. And has become a joke in the league.

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Jerry Fontenot

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All very good suggestions.

This will help you.

New Orleans Saints Highlights by Years --NOSaintsHistory.com

New Orleans Saints (1967-Present)

New Orleans Saints - New Orleans Saints All Time Head Coaches Records

NFL Record and Fact Book

New Orleans Saints History | NFL at CBSSports.com

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Among other names that have been mentioned, Quinn Early, Mark Fields, Doug Brien.

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Man I had forgotten just how good we were under MOra. That guy just couildnt get over the hump. he had a good run didnt he.

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I agree - Martin or Hilliard.

I would think Morton Andersen is laready on someone's list.

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Iron Head Hayward and Pat Swilling

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Wes Chandler

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Some very good choices so far. Another to add to the list- Vaughan Johnson. The least know of the Dome Patrol backers but definitely a fantastic run stopper in his own regard. Rushers were known to request their run schemes go away from this guy.

I can't remember who the interview was with but he relayed a story where Roger Craig of the Niners came back to the huddle after being stopped on a run by Johnson and his comment was "I don't know who that guy was but please don't let him hit me again".

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I remember that too, Lumm0x. Johnson was the George Harrison of the group. Or Kris Kristoferson in the Highwaymen. I loved that whole group of LB's but Johnson was my guy. He gets my vote.

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aaron stecker...anyone?

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In comparison to some of the other names on this list? No.

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Who are you, FootballCEO? You couldnt have picked many topics we Saints fans love more than this. great thread starter!

Its true. This team is our 1st SB Champion, and we love them, but there are so many former Saints we would love to have seen get a ring, and who were so deserving and entertaining.

Im working strictly off the top of my head here, but talent? Lots of names, so many of them... I cant pick one... DT Jim Wilks-- you've never heard of him, but I guarantee, Joe Montana, and various Rams QB's still have dreams about him. John Tice-- would have been a go-to TE on any team in the league--- and a horse necked blocker. I'll never forget a safety blitz by SS Brett Maxie that knocked the ball from giant Bernie Kosar & scored a clenching safety. Maxie was a consistent playmaker, and continued making plays for ? Carolina? And for some reason I keep remembering Floyd Turner -- completely forgotten guy, the other reciever to Eric Martin. Came out of small NW La U--- and just burned some of the best D's in the hardest division in football.

We had the best kicker ever in Morten Andersen-- a nearly automatic 50 yarder-- phenominal leg.

We had the most powerful running back in history, Earl Campbell, but unfortunately a very beaten, aged version of his old self. I believe medically, there is something wrong with Earl, (besides his NFL wear/tear) that caused his entire body to age prematurely. Please buy his smoked sausage if you go to Houston.

For trivia fun, and all around jack-of-all-trades talent there's our favorite obscure name---Guido Merkins -- who could play receiver, safety, all four special teams, and even backup QB. He was the best in none of them, except special teams, but everybody loved his hustle.

I believe Bobby Hebert could be the NFL's most underrated QB, next to Warren Moon. In a too-simple offensive scheme, he consistently moved the ball, read the defense as well as Joe Montana, had an arm as strong as Elway, and probably ran better than both, and was fearless of contact. Just ask various linebackers, whom Hebert stiff-armed on the way to a first down. The dumbest thing you could do vs. Hebert was blitz, which always entailed him standing right in the pocket through the hit, and hitting Eric Martin on the slant for an automatic first down. Bobby's downfall was his own Cajun passion---He just wanted it too badly, and would make a mistake sometimes, just trying to do it all, which usually, he could.

Basically I have failed in this post, as I could not come up with one single name to add to this discussion. my apologies.

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Joe Johnson and La Roi Glover

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Eric Martin is one of my all time favorites. Here's another ...

Dalton Hilliard

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You may have failed in coming up with one name but you were successful in bringing years of memories rushing into the forefront of my mind, years of fond memories of Saints teams and time spent with my DAD on sunday afternoons. You even brought a tear to my eye...

THANKS sincerely for a great post!!!

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Steve Gleason. He will always be remembered by me anyway.

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You know how I feel about Bobby...but without getting into that, I have to call you on a couple of things. I think it is very questionable as to whether he read defenses better than Joe, and to say that he might have ran better than Elway...well, I'm just going to leave it at..."I don't think so!" :)

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No really, I know we all think of Elway as a great runner-- I'm not sure he had that much speed, relatively speaking. Elway's real magic was his ability to throw pinpoint from a near dead run, a long pass-- but as for raw footspeed, I believe Bobby was in the same ballpark. Neither one of them was a threat to Mel Gray. I know he had some power. I might be wrong.

You do know Walsh had to cut his playbook in half for Montana his first year, right? Hebert was already dealing with half a playbook, and you have to admit we had the ball control game down. You also gotta admit he did possess NFL QB caliber tools, esp. for a guy who came to the league from the USFL.

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Anyone remember TE Greg Scales(sp) God that guy had hands of stone....dropped one right in the endzone this one time with no one around him....would have clinched the game....I lost a Hundred Bucks... damn him....lol.....as for good ones, you guys used a lot of mine up...I will have to think on this a bit....great question and post OP!!!!!

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Vaughn Johnson

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Why has NO ONE Mentioned Archie Manning... or did i miss it? he has to be a top five player right?

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people know him......the first poster was trying to enlighten people about a player nobody knows

plus i think some people are a little bitter after the super bowl

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Got the point of intent of first poster..
But why bitter Payton Manning was a class act never spoke negative about the Saints. Played the game and used the Officials as any QB would and Should. Archie just supported his son as any parent should. Ive pulled for the Saints my whole life but believe if my son were drafted into the NFL even by the Hated Falcons or Cowboys I would be proud of him and support him. Even Pull for him if he played my Saints. He is my SON!!!

EDIT... I thought it through a bit more ... hed be on his own dammit I was a WHO DAT before I knew him who the hell does he think he is Id egg his damn house with rotten eggs!!!...LOL

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Montana and Elway never zinged the ball 60 feet out of the back of the endzone on 4th down in the playoffs either.:doh:

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Two of the most under-rated Saints of the early years.

http://www.nosaintshistory.com/image...ommy_myers.jpg
This is the guy who held the record for the longest TD interception return until Darren Sharper broke it this year. He played 9 seasons actually had a Pro bowl.

http://www.nosaintshistory.com/bios/images/moore1.jpg
Moore played , like 13 seasons and saw a total of 7 head coaches in New Orleans.