new NFL rules?

SmashMouth · 03-22-2010, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

That Lance Moore catch was payback 26 years later for a replay that robbed Eric Martin against the Giants back in the 80s.

We were rolling along, I think just clobbered Denver the week before, and Hebert chunks this perfect bullet to Martin into the Girod St. endzone---Score! And we're starting to look real good vs. the Giants.

Nope! wait... we have to crank up this damn replay, and sure enough, ran in super-duper stop in time slow motion cam--- the replay reveals that the outer electrons in the amoebic walls on the edge of the pigskin shifted positions .0000000001 microbits within Martin's hand 1/2 a flie's scrotum after the last proton of his right shoe crossed the edge of the white line.
He burned his guy. Hebert nailed it. He caught it. Ran thru the endzone. In anybody's backyard, thats a touchdown, now go catch the kickoff. Shut up and walk the field. But nooooo. We had to have all this crybaby replay crap.

When I was a kid, there was no replay. The ref threw his hands up one way or the other, and that was it. Move on to the next play. We did just fine without it. Before replay, when Eric Martin crossed the line with the ball in his hand you can now cheer. No waiting for anybody's verdict. See thats my thing with replay. CAn I cheer now? Oh no, wait, now we have to contest it. We have to scrutinize every electron, and hope the peep-show guys sees it our way. Nevermind its so close that he has to look at 26 times--- which directly violates the spirit of what replay was supposed to do.

I could live without replay. Replay is just a second chance for the officials to botch the call--- and it holds up the game and bores the crap out of my kids--- no wonder they watch wrestling. Just play ball. Backyard rules-- if you have the ball, you caught it, if you dont, you didnt. If you're past the goal line, you scored. If you dont want the other team to score, dont let em catch the ball past the goal line. Stop whining and play ball.

Some of my best friends disagree with me. Feel free to join them.

How about that Jerry Rice catch where he fumbled short of crossing the goal line. Yet he was awarded a TD!

I don't see anyone stopping our offense next year either. And if our defense improves as we all think it will, then it won't matter if any of these rule changes actually come through.

skymike · 03-22-2010, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

How about that Jerry Rice catch where he fumbled short of crossing the goal line. Yet he was awarded a TD!

see, you're one of those "friends" Im referring to, whom disagree with me. God, I was mad after that play. We were so robbed! good point!

ScottF · 03-22-2010, 09:05 PM

I still like replay; I just don't understand two things:

why does it STILL take so long, and how is it they still miss 10-15% of the calls?

the 'ruling on the field' part is stupid. Why have replay if you can't come up with 'conclusive' evidence. The inconclusive-so-the-call-stands part is a cop-out

I guess I have a third question- why does the equipment still malfunction?

I was at the Miami game when their TE 'made' a catch that was challenged. They show the replay. and everyone (Dolph fans) reacts with Oh crap. Then they dick around for 5 minutes and say the that the replay equipment isn't working

ScottF · 03-22-2010, 09:07 PM

I like that we have rules changes bc of the high profile games we are in.

Question- if they had already changed the possession rule, would Moore's conversion be incomplete?
I mean it was a catch, period.

skymike · 03-23-2010, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

why does it STILL take so long, and how is it they still miss 10-15% of the calls?... Then they (weiner) around for 5 minutes and say the that the replay equipment isn't working

Thats my thing. EVERY replay challenge, they (weiner) around for at least 5 minutes, holding up the game, breaking the rhythmn, and turning it all into a slow motion bigscreening, where everyone starts spouting a million rules and sub-rules.

Replay was not meant to call the whole game. It was only meant to reverse OBVIOUSLY horrible calls, like Mike Renfro in the '79 AFC Championship. If you cant see a mistake in two viewings, then it is not obvious. Therefore "inconclusive" is not a cop-out, its just saying, "There is no apparent mistake, so I'll trust the judgement of the guy who was 6 feet away from the play." So lets move on, line up, and play football.

I think overall the officials do a heckuva job. I've said crazier things before. But seriously, can we see things that fast? If we could, we wouldnt be looking at the slow motion replay.

1. I say you get 2 replays a game. One per team. One per half. If you think one bad call is gonna cost you a game, then choose wisely. Penalties are reviewable; why would the not be?

2. The officials then have 60 seconds to make a reversal or non-reversal. Thumbs up/thumbs down from the booth, I dont need a dissertation. 60 seconds from Flag to ruling.

3. If its not OBVIOUS, then we move on and play ball.

We lived for 60 years without replay, and did just fine.
Yes, I am crazy.
I love you all.

03-22-2010, 06:16 PM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,019 Blog Entries: 29	Re: new NFL rules? Originally Posted by skymike That Lance Moore catch was payback 26 years later for a replay that robbed Eric Martin against the Giants back in the 80s. We were rolling along, I think just clobbered Denver the week before, and Hebert chunks this perfect bullet to Martin into the Girod St. endzone---Score! And we're starting to look real good vs. the Giants. Nope! wait... we have to crank up this damn replay, and sure enough, ran in super-duper stop in time slow motion cam--- the replay reveals that the outer electrons in the amoebic walls on the edge of the pigskin shifted positions .0000000001 microbits within Martin's hand 1/2 a flie's scrotum after the last proton of his right shoe crossed the edge of the white line. He burned his guy. Hebert nailed it. He caught it. Ran thru the endzone. In anybody's backyard, thats a touchdown, now go catch the kickoff. Shut up and walk the field. But nooooo. We had to have all this crybaby replay crap. When I was a kid, there was no replay. The ref threw his hands up one way or the other, and that was it. Move on to the next play. We did just fine without it. Before replay, when Eric Martin crossed the line with the ball in his hand you can now cheer. No waiting for anybody's verdict. See thats my thing with replay. CAn I cheer now? Oh no, wait, now we have to contest it. We have to scrutinize every electron, and hope the peep-show guys sees it our way. Nevermind its so close that he has to look at 26 times--- which directly violates the spirit of what replay was supposed to do. I could live without replay. Replay is just a second chance for the officials to botch the call--- and it holds up the game and bores the crap out of my kids--- no wonder they watch wrestling. Just play ball. Backyard rules-- if you have the ball, you caught it, if you dont, you didnt. If you're past the goal line, you scored. If you dont want the other team to score, dont let em catch the ball past the goal line. Stop whining and play ball. Some of my best friends disagree with me. Feel free to join them. How about that Jerry Rice catch where he fumbled short of crossing the goal line. Yet he was awarded a TD! I don't see anyone stopping our offense next year either. And if our defense improves as we all think it will, then it won't matter if any of these rule changes actually come through.

03-22-2010, 06:28 PM	#2
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: new NFL rules? Originally Posted by SmashMouth How about that Jerry Rice catch where he fumbled short of crossing the goal line. Yet he was awarded a TD! see, you're one of those "friends" Im referring to, whom disagree with me. God, I was mad after that play. We were so robbed! good point!

03-22-2010, 09:05 PM	#3
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: new NFL rules? I still like replay; I just don't understand two things: why does it STILL take so long, and how is it they still miss 10-15% of the calls? the 'ruling on the field' part is stupid. Why have replay if you can't come up with 'conclusive' evidence. The inconclusive-so-the-call-stands part is a cop-out I guess I have a third question- why does the equipment still malfunction? I was at the Miami game when their TE 'made' a catch that was challenged. They show the replay. and everyone (Dolph fans) reacts with Oh crap. Then they dick around for 5 minutes and say the that the replay equipment isn't working

03-22-2010, 09:07 PM	#4
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: new NFL rules? I like that we have rules changes bc of the high profile games we are in. Question- if they had already changed the possession rule, would Moore's conversion be incomplete? I mean it was a catch, period.

03-23-2010, 08:42 AM	#5
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: new NFL rules? Originally Posted by ScottF why does it STILL take so long, and how is it they still miss 10-15% of the calls?... Then they (weiner) around for 5 minutes and say the that the replay equipment isn't working Thats my thing. EVERY replay challenge, they (weiner) around for at least 5 minutes, holding up the game, breaking the rhythmn, and turning it all into a slow motion bigscreening, where everyone starts spouting a million rules and sub-rules. Replay was not meant to call the whole game. It was only meant to reverse OBVIOUSLY horrible calls, like Mike Renfro in the '79 AFC Championship. If you cant see a mistake in two viewings, then it is not obvious. Therefore "inconclusive" is not a cop-out, its just saying, "There is no apparent mistake, so I'll trust the judgement of the guy who was 6 feet away from the play." So lets move on, line up, and play football. I think overall the officials do a heckuva job. I've said crazier things before. But seriously, can we see things that fast? If we could, we wouldnt be looking at the slow motion replay. 1. I say you get 2 replays a game. One per team. One per half. If you think one bad call is gonna cost you a game, then choose wisely. Penalties are reviewable; why would the not be? 2. The officials then have 60 seconds to make a reversal or non-reversal. Thumbs up/thumbs down from the booth, I dont need a dissertation. 60 seconds from Flag to ruling. 3. If its not OBVIOUS, then we move on and play ball. We lived for 60 years without replay, and did just fine. Yes, I am crazy. I love you all.