Owners pass Overtime rule proposal

03-23-2010, 06:35 PM

Still just plain stupid

CantonLegend · 03-23-2010, 06:42 PM

what happens if team b doesnt wanna play under these rules so they boycott the coin toss and the toss can never happen?

what is the time limit for a team to appear at the coin toss and/or announce their choice?

SAINT_MICHAEL · 03-23-2010, 06:49 PM

It's not a complicated rule, just a stupid one.

stockman311 · 03-23-2010, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

Also, Team A can win the game with a FG on it's first possession as long as they stop Team B on their first possession.

Yes I said I was extremely intelligent and I guess yoiu didnt read this post did you TR?

stockman311 · 03-23-2010, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

... and I believed you when you said you were very intelligent.

My question was: how is it fair that the team that lost the coin toss can win the game on the first possession of the game with a FG, but the team that won the coin toss cannot win the game on the first possession of the game with a FG?

Team A wins coin toss. Team A defers the kick.
Team B onside kicks and recovers the ball. That is the first possession of the game.
Team B moves the ball 30 yards and scores a FG. The field goal wins the game.
Team A won the coin toss, but never had possession of the ball, and lost on a FG.

HOWEVER, the team that won the coin toss cannot win the game with a FG on the first possession of the game.

How is that fair now?

It's called modified sudden death. IF you can't see that this format is MORE FAIR to the team that loses the coinflip, than the previous OT rules then I don't know what to tell you.

CantonLegend · 03-23-2010, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

It's called modified sudden death. IF you can't see that this format is MORE FAIR to the team that loses the coinflip, than the previous OT rules then I don't know what to tell you.

more fair? all its doing is taking the kicker out of the game

apparently even the owners believe that kickers arent very important

however, when you look at the list of all time leading scorers in the NFL.....you'll notice they are all kickers

why? because kickers are a huge part of the game....they are required to do several different things that are unseen

not only do they kick, they also must play defense

besides the fact that they completely insulted special teams.....they embarrassed defenses by assuming that you cant stop the other team no matter what team wins the coin toss

the old rules required the defense to make a play.....if they didnt, then the other team won.....and since the NFL has cut out special teams out of overtime, there is only 2 phases of football......offense and defense

but since the new rules require both teams to get a chance on offense, they are taking defense out of the game too.....so i guess defense is completely lost too

Tobias-Reiper · 03-23-2010, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

It's called modified sudden death. IF you can't see that this format is MORE FAIR to the team that loses the coinflip, than the previous OT rules then I don't know what to tell you.

So, it is "more fair" that the team that wins the coin toss cannot win the game on the first possession of overtime with a FG, but the team that lost the coin toss can win the game on the first possession of overtime..

Oh, yeah, that is more fair... suuuuuure.

QBREES9 · 03-23-2010, 08:45 PM

If it ain't broke don't fix it. It wasn't broke

SaintPauly · 03-23-2010, 09:10 PM

What if the team that wins the toss, doesnt' score, kicks offs, the other team throws an interception, and then the coin toss team hits a field goal? There are so many scenarios on this, that I don't see how on God's green earth this is going to work.

SAINT_MICHAEL · 03-23-2010, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

What if the team that wins the toss, doesnt' score, kicks offs, the other team throws an interception, and then the coin toss team hits a field goal? There are so many scenarios on this, that I don't see how on God's green earth this is going to work.

To answer this Paul. Once the team that received the kick and did not score, they would probably punt (kick off as you say). Once that happens, the next score by either team in any way would win.

03-23-2010, 06:35 PM	#41
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03-23-2010, 06:42 PM	#42
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal what happens if team b doesnt wanna play under these rules so they boycott the coin toss and the toss can never happen? what is the time limit for a team to appear at the coin toss and/or announce their choice?

03-23-2010, 06:49 PM	#43
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03-23-2010, 07:47 PM	#44
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by stockman311 Also, Team A can win the game with a FG on it's first possession as long as they stop Team B on their first possession. Yes I said I was extremely intelligent and I guess yoiu didnt read this post did you TR?

03-23-2010, 07:52 PM	#45
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper ... and I believed you when you said you were very intelligent. My question was: how is it fair that the team that lost the coin toss can win the game on the first possession of the game with a FG, but the team that won the coin toss cannot win the game on the first possession of the game with a FG? Team A wins coin toss. Team A defers the kick. Team B onside kicks and recovers the ball. That is the first possession of the game. Team B moves the ball 30 yards and scores a FG. The field goal wins the game. Team A won the coin toss, but never had possession of the ball, and lost on a FG. HOWEVER, the team that won the coin toss cannot win the game with a FG on the first possession of the game. How is that fair now? It's called modified sudden death. IF you can't see that this format is MORE FAIR to the team that loses the coinflip, than the previous OT rules then I don't know what to tell you.

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03-23-2010, 08:01 PM	#46
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by stockman311 It's called modified sudden death. IF you can't see that this format is MORE FAIR to the team that loses the coinflip, than the previous OT rules then I don't know what to tell you. more fair? all its doing is taking the kicker out of the game apparently even the owners believe that kickers arent very important however, when you look at the list of all time leading scorers in the NFL.....you'll notice they are all kickers why? because kickers are a huge part of the game....they are required to do several different things that are unseen not only do they kick, they also must play defense besides the fact that they completely insulted special teams.....they embarrassed defenses by assuming that you cant stop the other team no matter what team wins the coin toss the old rules required the defense to make a play.....if they didnt, then the other team won.....and since the NFL has cut out special teams out of overtime, there is only 2 phases of football......offense and defense but since the new rules require both teams to get a chance on offense, they are taking defense out of the game too.....so i guess defense is completely lost too
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03-23-2010, 08:14 PM	#47
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by stockman311 It's called modified sudden death. IF you can't see that this format is MORE FAIR to the team that loses the coinflip, than the previous OT rules then I don't know what to tell you. So, it is "more fair" that the team that wins the coin toss cannot win the game on the first possession of overtime with a FG, but the team that lost the coin toss can win the game on the first possession of overtime.. Oh, yeah, that is more fair... suuuuuure.
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03-23-2010, 09:10 PM	#49
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal What if the team that wins the toss, doesnt' score, kicks offs, the other team throws an interception, and then the coin toss team hits a field goal? There are so many scenarios on this, that I don't see how on God's green earth this is going to work.

03-23-2010, 10:06 PM	#50
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by saintpaul25 What if the team that wins the toss, doesnt' score, kicks offs, the other team throws an interception, and then the coin toss team hits a field goal? There are so many scenarios on this, that I don't see how on God's green earth this is going to work. To answer this Paul. Once the team that received the kick and did not score, they would probably punt (kick off as you say). Once that happens, the next score by either team in any way would win.
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