Pierre wants new deal but will not skip work outs..

CantonLegend · 03-28-2010, 08:07 PM

first off id like to say that this is a very unique look at it and im not totally against it.....but(dont you hate it when theres a but?)

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

You said the Saints gave Thomas an opportunity, yes they did, but they didn't give him this opportunity out of the goodness of their hearts. The FO signed Thomas like they sign many rookie players not drafted prior to the pre-season:to see "what happens", and it just happened that PT did a better job than the player the Saints drafted as RB in the 4th round.

but there were 2 parties that signed it, just like you said.....PT signed the same "see what happens" contract and promised to play at the top of his ability by signing that contract. he has proven that he goes hard nearly every play....and he has earned that initial contract by doing so

Now we have a situation where PT is certainly more valuable than an undrafted rookie signed as a camp body to see "what happens",

i feel PJ Hill, lynell hamilton, and herb donaldson are very talented young kids

the question now is, given PTs performance the past 2 years, how valuable is Thomas to this team the next 4 seasons? If the FO thinks he's valuable, the FO is going to not just agree to, but want to re-write the contract to ensure PT's services in the long haul, and make sure his price doesn't actually go up if he keeps playing better. Of course, he could get hurt, he could play worse, Donte' Stallworth could run him over with his Bentley and kill him, but that's the gamble FOs take every time they sign anyone.

and if the front office feels that his price will continue to rise, then im sure they will try to get a long term contract to him......but they dont have to rush because he still has a year that he is tendered to play under. we can easily wait til next year to sign him when he is officially a free agent

And think about it this way: what do you do for a living?

remember that the NFL isnt like a normal 9 to 5 job tho

Say, for the sake of argument, you get a job as a salesperson with Company X. 3 months later, they come to you and tell you "we want to make you office manager". The first thing that's going to go through your mind is "what's the raise?", but they tell you "no raise, you signed a contract to work in this office. You'll have more work and responsibilities now, but since you signed the contract to work in this office, your pay is the same".

remember that no matter how many "promotions" he gets.....hes still a running back......hes not being asked to play QB or LB.....hes not getting promoted to a completely different job.....hes still a running back and he signed the contract as a running back

And that's basically what happened to PT:
Got hired to be a camp body.
Got promoted to 3rd string - no raise.
Got promoted to 2nd string - no raise.
Got promoted to 1st string - no raise.

did he sign a contract that said he only had to play in camp? no he signed a contract to play in the NFL.....now he is playing in the NFL.....that was the contract

does the company get to pay him less if he does a worse job? no.....contracts very rarely go the other way so i cant blame the front office for not wanting to make big contracts. we have been burned before by that mistake and im sure they dont want to make it again. PT isnt exactly invincible and has shown that he is pretty injury prone.......

So, like PT says, he's building his resume. If he doesn't get his pay raise with this firm, he'll take his talents somewhere else, and it would be a shame to lose his talent.

the NFL is a business......its cliche but its true.....PT needs to do whats best for him in the long run......although new orleans has proven over the past 4 years that they are a little different than the other teams in the NFL

look at what scott fujita did before he left because his heart is in NO.....jeff faine said the same thing about NO......and we even brought back deuce, the most beloved saint of all time, so he could get his ring that he deserved to get a long time ago

03-28-2010, 08:07 PM	#18
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Pierre wants new deal but will not skip work outs.. first off id like to say that this is a very unique look at it and im not totally against it.....but(dont you hate it when theres a but?) Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper You said the Saints gave Thomas an opportunity, yes they did, but they didn't give him this opportunity out of the goodness of their hearts. The FO signed Thomas like they sign many rookie players not drafted prior to the pre-season:to see "what happens", and it just happened that PT did a better job than the player the Saints drafted as RB in the 4th round. but there were 2 parties that signed it, just like you said.....PT signed the same "see what happens" contract and promised to play at the top of his ability by signing that contract. he has proven that he goes hard nearly every play....and he has earned that initial contract by doing so Now we have a situation where PT is certainly more valuable than an undrafted rookie signed as a camp body to see "what happens", i feel PJ Hill, lynell hamilton, and herb donaldson are very talented young kids the question now is, given PTs performance the past 2 years, how valuable is Thomas to this team the next 4 seasons? If the FO thinks he's valuable, the FO is going to not just agree to, but want to re-write the contract to ensure PT's services in the long haul, and make sure his price doesn't actually go up if he keeps playing better. Of course, he could get hurt, he could play worse, Donte' Stallworth could run him over with his Bentley and kill him, but that's the gamble FOs take every time they sign anyone. and if the front office feels that his price will continue to rise, then im sure they will try to get a long term contract to him......but they dont have to rush because he still has a year that he is tendered to play under. we can easily wait til next year to sign him when he is officially a free agent And think about it this way: what do you do for a living? remember that the NFL isnt like a normal 9 to 5 job tho Say, for the sake of argument, you get a job as a salesperson with Company X. 3 months later, they come to you and tell you "we want to make you office manager". The first thing that's going to go through your mind is "what's the raise?", but they tell you "no raise, you signed a contract to work in this office. You'll have more work and responsibilities now, but since you signed the contract to work in this office, your pay is the same". remember that no matter how many "promotions" he gets.....hes still a running back......hes not being asked to play QB or LB.....hes not getting promoted to a completely different job.....hes still a running back and he signed the contract as a running back And that's basically what happened to PT: Got hired to be a camp body. Got promoted to 3rd string - no raise. Got promoted to 2nd string - no raise. Got promoted to 1st string - no raise. did he sign a contract that said he only had to play in camp? no he signed a contract to play in the NFL.....now he is playing in the NFL.....that was the contract does the company get to pay him less if he does a worse job? no.....contracts very rarely go the other way so i cant blame the front office for not wanting to make big contracts. we have been burned before by that mistake and im sure they dont want to make it again. PT isnt exactly invincible and has shown that he is pretty injury prone....... So, like PT says, he's building his resume. If he doesn't get his pay raise with this firm, he'll take his talents somewhere else, and it would be a shame to lose his talent. the NFL is a business......its cliche but its true.....PT needs to do whats best for him in the long run......although new orleans has proven over the past 4 years that they are a little different than the other teams in the NFL look at what scott fujita did before he left because his heart is in NO.....jeff faine said the same thing about NO......and we even brought back deuce, the most beloved saint of all time, so he could get his ring that he deserved to get a long time ago
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

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