Re: Possible Darren Sharper suitors
 

Reggie comes up when u make ill-informed statements, to clarify why its different talkin about what reggie makes and what sharper wants, as stated before reggie is under contract and his salary is apart of that contract, Sharper is a Free Agent, coming off of knee surgery he's not gettin any younger hyperbolic time chamber or not he's not gonna get above market here. You just dont like Reggie just say so, 8td's a year is solid production. especially when you play in the offense he does. Again I Demand you change your name on the grounds that your statements and opinions do not contain logic. I'm almost embarrassed to share my favorite team with you, 1 word to describe is Ignorant. Like the "Nu Boyz" would say " Yer a jerk, Yer a Jerk Yer a Jerk Yer a jerk, Jerk, Jerk, Jerk,Jerk.....
dont be offended...seriously tho im tryin to show you the game and your not watchin, read everything I'v ever said in response to your post' and as your self is what i'm saying true or is it ficticious

Re: Possible Darren Sharper suitors
 

a fair market deal is a deal in which a player is paid according to their market value. He wants more then what teams are willing to pay him if it wasnt about money he'd be signed already. The team doesnt owe him anything. A future HOF means that he's had a long career and his best years behind him. you answered your own question. Yes i did say he should be honored because again The Team doesnt Have to sign him, They don't owe him anything he was apart of a super bowl winning TEAM but he didnt single handedly win the game so you sell a cow to save the farm not the other way around, but if you can keep the cow and the farm then you do so at the right price. I understand that your excited that we finally had Great Safety Play in god knows how long but he's older now then he was in 09 (is it safe to say each day you get older) Long term plans now not short term, NO LONGER THE DESPERATE SAINTS! read that 2x

Re: Possible Darren Sharper suitors
 

what the hell would everyone say if bush puts up hof numbers in 2010. wow which way did he go george, which way did he go. lol

Re: Possible Darren Sharper suitors
 

The fact is you made a comment about ignorance is bliss. So you threw out the first insult IMO. So don't act all wounded.

The facts are this: Bush's salary was pretty much determined by his draft position.

The Saints decided not to release him, thereby determining he was worth the $

Sharper wanted to have franchise tag money from us. That was 6 million dollars. Not so far off from Bush's salary.

So it comes down to the Saints deciding that 6 mil for a player comng off a great season, but on the end of his career and coming off an injury was not what other teams were willing to pay him and therefore not market value. If he signs for 6 mil with another team the decision may have been wrong. We shall see.

But with the draft approaching and the development of our younger guys in the secondary it makes sense to me that the team decided not to make the move. He will likely sign a cntract with us or another team for less than that. Why you say that Bush's salary has an impact on this decision is beyond me. That you seem to be proud that you feel this is puzzling.

Re: Possible Darren Sharper suitors
 

Isn't Sharpers proposed contract of $6 million over three years, vs. Reggies $8 million per next year? ...pretty significantly far of in comparison.

Coming into the off-season there were two big issues & question marks?

1. What are they going to do with / for Darren Sharper?

2. Are they going to bring back Reggie on his final and most costly year of his contract... or seek a trade?

... does anyone dispute that to this point?

Well, they have expressed that they intend to retain Bush and at his set rate... right? Well, that is a big commitment to honor, that frankly, BUSH IS LUCKY to the recipient of. Even when they draw these contracts, there is always ways out. If they traded him, they don't owe him the full 8 million, right? So if they do honor it, Bush is lucky.

Step back and look at it from an outsiders point of view. If Sharper goes and they retain Bush, is there no way that one of the others decision wouldn't have had an impact on the other? "Welp, looks like the Saints couldn't pay Sharper enough... but the didn't trade Reggie who's set to make___?" This is how I see and if it goes down, will be critiqued by analyst all the same.

It may be the obvious choice for the majority here and that's fine, Reggie is the obvious fan favorite (of all the women and kids) but it's a win / loose comparison I'm thinking about. Let's hope the keep Sharper either way so it doesn't matter.

Re: Possible Darren Sharper suitors
 

... do you want to talk about all of Reggie's knee surgeries?

So... it comes down to it.... you're pointing out I don't like Reggie and flailing into a personal, name calling frenzy. What's your association with the guy? "Hypothetically" speaking, say I'm not impressed with Reggie Bush, would this be possible and still share opinions with the likes of others? I think that's my whole point..... I'd value Sharper over Bush, if it came down to loosing either anyday. If unloading Bush helped them retains Sharper (& Fujita, & Bell), I'd be all about it. This is why it's relevant to talk about. Teams do it all the time. That's what's called a personal opinion....

You're a typical tool I wouldn't even bother to discuss a player with because you're emotional infatuations far override your ability to reason, you'd never address my views, but come back with direct personal insults. you've summed it up to this "I don't Like Reggie Bush, I'm a Jerk".

Re: Possible Darren Sharper suitors
 

This is what Saints fans do.... rub Reggie Bush's "next years" potential in doubters face year in, year out..... f***ing comedy?

Dude, seriously, you're "hypothetically" making fun of me based on fantasy situations that have not happened. What do you get out of this.... you feel that much more proud dawning your #25?

[fast forward to five years]


Reggie Bush represents hope, not a reality. And if that hope bands all the B&G together to have something to look forward to, so be it and he's worth his weight in gold for that alone....

Re: Possible Darren Sharper suitors
 

Not sure where you are getting three years from. A Franchise tag would not have spread the 6 million ove three years.

Yes I do. Bigger than either of these questions were what was to be done with Grant. You continue to ignore this. By letting him go the team made a statement about who they though was and was not earning their money. Retaining Bush, at least as far as not cutting him, was not really a doubt in my mind. Payton sees his value even if you don't. His comments showed that. He still may trade Bush, but never was he going to be let go. As far as Sharper, did you really think that he was going to be offerd a franchise tag? Honestly? That is the only thing that he would have been satisfied with so far.

So you think Bush is lucky like I think Sharper is lucky. Either way, the team could have cut Bush, thereby deciding he was not worth the 8 mil due him. But they decided not to. I will trust SP over your blind dislike of Bush. again, i ask if you really think they would have cut Grant, let fujita go, and not matched Bell, yet kept Reggie for 8 Mill if it kept them from giving sharper franchise money? Admit it, there is no logic there...not even a hint.

An outsider's point of view? Well, you are not anoutsider, so what do you know about it? But Ok, an outsider says, "Sharper is a free agent. He wants 6 million. He's coming off surgery, he's in the later part of his career. do I want to give him 6 million? Nope, sorry." Let's wait and see what happens. If another team gives him that much money I will be wrong. If they don't, will you admit you were?

[QUOTE=HintOfLogic;217606]Ok, another veiled shot at those people that won't agree with you about Reggie and how hw ffects the Sharper signing. Call them women and kids. Very good. I give you credit. It is the most credible argument you have come up with! If you cannot see the value Reggie brings to the team while some fans and the coaching staff can, then you are missing it. If you think reggie Bush has the same impact on a defense when he motions out of the backfield that Mike Bell or any other NFL back does when they motion, then you do not know football.

Re: Possible Darren Sharper suitors
 

can we have a thread wherewe dont have BUSH in it at all?..This is really getting lame. how about starting a "I HATE REGGIE BUSH" thread..

mods..can u help on this one?

Re: Possible Darren Sharper suitors
 

Alright Hint you win, I just dont understand why its so hard for you to understand that REGGIES SALARY WAS DECIDED WHEN HE WENT 2ND OVERALL IN THE 2006 NFL DRAFT, hind sight is 20/20. Sharper is Solid, those 9 interceptions came from outstanding coverage on the outsides. I dare you to say that Tracy Porter and Jabari Greer didnt make his job easier he recorded the stats but 22 and 32 were just as important. He played behind awful coverage with the Vikes for years and what did that get him? A ticket to N.O. I say that you are a fool if you Value Sharper more then Reggie, Take away the coverage and I dont think Sharper would be an option again this year, he HAD a great Career and solid year but His production was aided by the coverage. I think Malcom Jenkins and Chip Vaugn can do just as well back there.

I'm not gonna waste my time and knowledge anymore on this subject and ignorance as to why reggie is valued much higher then a declining 34 year old safety every other team would have him playing SS. I hope you take your homer glasses off and consider the information with an open mind and use that Hint of logic that seems to have taken a vacation. The mud slinging comes from your own doing You called out TheVillain never ever ever call out TheVillain unless your on point. like I said before I welcome all contradictory opinions and statements but they must be factual and not here say, it makes for outrageously long threads full of redundant information. So I say GOOD DAY SIR!