Will Alabama's Cody be a mountain of a bust?

the-commish · 04-19-2010, 05:27 PM

Problem with Cody is his lack of lateral movement. That could not only prevent himself from getting to a play, but could prevent others on the DL from getting to it as well.

QBREES9 · 04-19-2010, 06:21 PM

He won't be Ryan Leaf..

MatthewT · 04-19-2010, 06:21 PM

Big guys are always welcomed in the NFL, but a big guy who cannot move is a serious liability at the NFL level. Very decent college player, just don't see an NFL future for this guy.

strato · 04-19-2010, 09:20 PM

What if falls on someone ..that worries me Canton...

Pete · 04-19-2010, 10:06 PM

Too much appetite for Nawlins' for sure!

strato · 04-19-2010, 10:10 PM

The local restaurants are praying for us to pick Cody...lol

neugey · 04-19-2010, 10:27 PM

You know, maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't see the all-out need for a DT on our team. Here's hoping that Ellis stays healthy this year and has his best year yet.

Let's go out on a limb and say that happens ... is it necessary to have another god at DT beside him? Last time I checked, Ellis wasn't that bad against the run, right?

When Warren Sapp, John Randle or even LaRoi Glover were in their hey-days, their teams didn't need to have another great DT beside them. Just needed to have a solid guy in there who could be relied upon to play the position properly and fill the right gap. I think we might be in an okay spot - Ayodele and Pressley still have some upside and maybe one of them will fill this role properly for us. Or maybe Clancy can come back and has something in the tank left.

And besides, when did getting 2 great DT's guarantee major success? Remember Jacksonville of a few years ago - great run-stuffing team ... but did it really matter? Did it really get them anywhere? Good teams find a way to move the ball against the Vikes and the Williams Wall - us included. Is it that that important to load up at DT?

Crusader · 04-20-2010, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

You know, maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't see the all-out need for a DT on our team. Here's hoping that Ellis stays healthy this year and has his best year yet.

Let's go out on a limb and say that happens ... is it necessary to have another god at DT beside him? Last time I checked, Ellis wasn't that bad against the run, right?

When Warren Sapp, John Randle or even LaRoi Glover were in their hey-days, their teams didn't need to have another great DT beside them. Just needed to have a solid guy in there who could be relied upon to play the position properly and fill the right gap. I think we might be in an okay spot - Ayodele and Pressley still have some upside and maybe one of them will fill this role properly for us. Or maybe Clancy can come back and has something in the tank left.

And besides, when did getting 2 great DT's guarantee major success? Remember Jacksonville of a few years ago - great run-stuffing team ... but did it really matter? Did it really get them anywhere? Good teams find a way to move the ball against the Vikes and the Williams Wall - us included. Is it that that important to load up at DT?

Great post with a lot of interesting thoughts. I know Cody would be a big clogger but thats not really what we need imho. Just as you state we need a decent guy next to Ellis. But I would actually like us to focus on DE and LB before DT. This draft i soo deep on DTs I think its possible to find great value at the position even in round 3 and 4.

CantonLegend · 04-20-2010, 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

You know, maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't see the all-out need for a DT on our team. Here's hoping that Ellis stays healthy this year and has his best year yet.

Let's go out on a limb and say that happens ... is it necessary to have another god at DT beside him? Last time I checked, Ellis wasn't that bad against the run, right?

When Warren Sapp, John Randle or even LaRoi Glover were in their hey-days, their teams didn't need to have another great DT beside them. Just needed to have a solid guy in there who could be relied upon to play the position properly and fill the right gap. I think we might be in an okay spot - Ayodele and Pressley still have some upside and maybe one of them will fill this role properly for us. Or maybe Clancy can come back and has something in the tank left.

And besides, when did getting 2 great DT's guarantee major success? Remember Jacksonville of a few years ago - great run-stuffing team ... but did it really matter? Did it really get them anywhere? Good teams find a way to move the ball against the Vikes and the Williams Wall - us included. Is it that that important to load up at DT?

pass rush isnt our biggest concern......im assuming you think that DT and LB are bigger needs because of pass rush?

our team totaled 35 sacks last season.....but not only did we accumulate sacks, we also managed to create pressure which led to turnovers

believe it or not we had the 8th most sacks in the league as a team and led the league in turnovers as well as defensive TDs

pass rush wasnt an issue and pass defense wasnt our biggest concern.....stopping the run is our biggest weakness

oh and ellis is not warren sapp......he is good but he is not great and he does need some help alongside him.....he gets double and triple teamed quite a bit and we need a presence next to him that can take some of that heat off of him

Rugby Saint II · 04-19-2010, 11:16 PM

It seems that he is trying to get his weight in line, but I still don't see him as the type of DT that GW can mold. It looks like he's already broken the mold.

04-19-2010, 05:27 PM	#1
the-commish Longtime WhoDat Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 529	Re: Will Alabama's Cody be a mountain of a bust? Problem with Cody is his lack of lateral movement. That could not only prevent himself from getting to a play, but could prevent others on the DL from getting to it as well.

04-19-2010, 06:21 PM	#2
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: Will Alabama's Cody be a mountain of a bust? He won't be Ryan Leaf..

04-19-2010, 06:21 PM	#3
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Will Alabama's Cody be a mountain of a bust? Big guys are always welcomed in the NFL, but a big guy who cannot move is a serious liability at the NFL level. Very decent college player, just don't see an NFL future for this guy.

04-19-2010, 09:20 PM	#4
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Will Alabama's Cody be a mountain of a bust? What if falls on someone ..that worries me Canton...

04-19-2010, 10:06 PM	#5
Pete • Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Patterson, LA Posts: 1,756	Re: Will Alabama's Cody be a mountain of a bust? Too much appetite for Nawlins' for sure!

04-19-2010, 10:10 PM	#6
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Will Alabama's Cody be a mountain of a bust? The local restaurants are praying for us to pick Cody...lol

04-19-2010, 10:27 PM	#7
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,820 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Will Alabama's Cody be a mountain of a bust? You know, maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't see the all-out need for a DT on our team. Here's hoping that Ellis stays healthy this year and has his best year yet. Let's go out on a limb and say that happens ... is it necessary to have another god at DT beside him? Last time I checked, Ellis wasn't that bad against the run, right? When Warren Sapp, John Randle or even LaRoi Glover were in their hey-days, their teams didn't need to have another great DT beside them. Just needed to have a solid guy in there who could be relied upon to play the position properly and fill the right gap. I think we might be in an okay spot - Ayodele and Pressley still have some upside and maybe one of them will fill this role properly for us. Or maybe Clancy can come back and has something in the tank left. And besides, when did getting 2 great DT's guarantee major success? Remember Jacksonville of a few years ago - great run-stuffing team ... but did it really matter? Did it really get them anywhere? Good teams find a way to move the ball against the Vikes and the Williams Wall - us included. Is it that that important to load up at DT?

04-20-2010, 01:46 AM	#8
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,031	Re: Will Alabama's Cody be a mountain of a bust? Originally Posted by neugey You know, maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't see the all-out need for a DT on our team. Here's hoping that Ellis stays healthy this year and has his best year yet. Let's go out on a limb and say that happens ... is it necessary to have another god at DT beside him? Last time I checked, Ellis wasn't that bad against the run, right? When Warren Sapp, John Randle or even LaRoi Glover were in their hey-days, their teams didn't need to have another great DT beside them. Just needed to have a solid guy in there who could be relied upon to play the position properly and fill the right gap. I think we might be in an okay spot - Ayodele and Pressley still have some upside and maybe one of them will fill this role properly for us. Or maybe Clancy can come back and has something in the tank left. And besides, when did getting 2 great DT's guarantee major success? Remember Jacksonville of a few years ago - great run-stuffing team ... but did it really matter? Did it really get them anywhere? Good teams find a way to move the ball against the Vikes and the Williams Wall - us included. Is it that that important to load up at DT? Great post with a lot of interesting thoughts. I know Cody would be a big clogger but thats not really what we need imho. Just as you state we need a decent guy next to Ellis. But I would actually like us to focus on DE and LB before DT. This draft i soo deep on DTs I think its possible to find great value at the position even in round 3 and 4.

04-20-2010, 01:51 AM	#9
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Will Alabama's Cody be a mountain of a bust? Originally Posted by neugey You know, maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't see the all-out need for a DT on our team. Here's hoping that Ellis stays healthy this year and has his best year yet. Let's go out on a limb and say that happens ... is it necessary to have another god at DT beside him? Last time I checked, Ellis wasn't that bad against the run, right? When Warren Sapp, John Randle or even LaRoi Glover were in their hey-days, their teams didn't need to have another great DT beside them. Just needed to have a solid guy in there who could be relied upon to play the position properly and fill the right gap. I think we might be in an okay spot - Ayodele and Pressley still have some upside and maybe one of them will fill this role properly for us. Or maybe Clancy can come back and has something in the tank left. And besides, when did getting 2 great DT's guarantee major success? Remember Jacksonville of a few years ago - great run-stuffing team ... but did it really matter? Did it really get them anywhere? Good teams find a way to move the ball against the Vikes and the Williams Wall - us included. Is it that that important to load up at DT? pass rush isnt our biggest concern......im assuming you think that DT and LB are bigger needs because of pass rush? our team totaled 35 sacks last season.....but not only did we accumulate sacks, we also managed to create pressure which led to turnovers believe it or not we had the 8th most sacks in the league as a team and led the league in turnovers as well as defensive TDs pass rush wasnt an issue and pass defense wasnt our biggest concern.....stopping the run is our biggest weakness oh and ellis is not warren sapp......he is good but he is not great and he does need some help alongside him.....he gets double and triple teamed quite a bit and we need a presence next to him that can take some of that heat off of him
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04-19-2010, 11:16 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Will Alabama's Cody be a mountain of a bust? It seems that he is trying to get his weight in line, but I still don't see him as the type of DT that GW can mold. It looks like he's already broken the mold.