Poydras You nailed it

falconhater · 04-23-2010, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

obviously

however......there are different skill sets and like you said.....the quicker LB usually goes on the weakside and the bigger LB usually goes on the strongside

in high school most people run a 4-4 or a 3-4 or sometimes a 4-2-5

and your positions are limited to the kids available at the school

however.....in the NFL each position is specialized and each player has a specific skill set to match that position

there is a reason players are scouted as a Cover 2 corner or a WLB

they have the skill set to play that position but not necessarily the other man-corner or SLB

I agree that the do specialize but not that it should close doors when talking about your depth chart much the same way that a guy might play every position on the OL I think we are talking (Ideally) and (filling in getting a job done.)

poydras · 04-23-2010, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by falconhater

bubble screen ...running back makes a belly in his route going about 5-7 yards deep in the back field and catches ball heading toward line of scrimmage.

So what did "they're coming back to the bubble" mean in the context in which he said it? (I'm assuming you've seen the Saints Championship DVD as many times as I have.)

CantonLegend · 04-23-2010, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by falconhater

I agree that the do specialize but not that it should close doors when talking about your depth chart much the same way that a guy might play every position on the OL I think we are talking (Ideally) and (filling in getting a job done.)

of course.....if you play LB you should be able to fill in anywhere....

just like a center should be able to play guard

but there are definitly players with skill sets better suited for one or the other

not everybody that is an OLB can play MLB and vice versa......not everybody that can take on blockers and cover in space.....thats the reason sergio kindle is scouted as a SLB/DE and sean weatherspoon is scouted as a WLB

different skill sets

falconhater · 04-23-2010, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

So what did "they're coming back to the bubble" mean in the context in which he said it? (I'm assuming you've seen the Saints Championship DVD as many times as I have.)

They had ran a bubble screen a couple times he set away from their strenght because they were coming back to the bubble(running it again) and he wanted to be set up to stop it when they did set up in a formation they wouldnt expect have them run into a "Trap" of sorts. you know be in one place when they think your somewhere else.

CantonLegend · 04-23-2010, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by falconhater

bubble screen ...running back makes a belly in his route going about 5-7 yards deep in the back field and catches ball heading toward line of scrimmage.

bubble screen in the spread is usually in a trips set where a WR is matched up against a safety

2 WRs fire out and block while the 3rd sits back and takes the screen pass

havent seen the saints DVD so if its different on there i have no idea what you're talking about

strato · 04-23-2010, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

of course.....if you play LB you should be able to fill in anywhere....

just like a center should be able to play guard

but there are definitly players with skill sets better suited for one or the other

not everybody that is an OLB can play MLB and vice versa......not everybody that can take on blockers and cover in space.....thats the reason sergio kindle is scouted as a SLB/DE and sean weatherspoon is scouted as a WLB

different skill sets

Yeah ..special skill sets do apply...not all LBs can cover..and some cant defend the run as well..thats elementary...we need a run stuffer..and the LBs we have will be servicable...

poydras · 04-23-2010, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by falconhater

They had ran a bubble screen a couple times he set away from their strenght because they were coming back to the bubble(running it again) and he wanted to be set up to stop it when they did set up in a formation they wouldnt expect have them run into a "Trap" of sorts. you know be in one place when they think your somewhere else.

Well ... uh ... that clears that up.

Maybe someone here still has a tape of the arizona game and I can go back and watch it.

UK_WhoDat · 04-23-2010, 04:44 PM

Poydras -

poydras · 04-23-2010, 07:05 PM

dang! OLBs are dropping off the board like crazy!

AsylumGuido · 04-23-2010, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

dang! OLBs are dropping off the board like crazy!

Don't worry about OLB's. Believe me, a DT is more vital.

04-23-2010, 03:20 PM	#71
falconhater 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 257	Re: Poydras You nailed it Originally Posted by CantonLegend obviously however......there are different skill sets and like you said.....the quicker LB usually goes on the weakside and the bigger LB usually goes on the strongside in high school most people run a 4-4 or a 3-4 or sometimes a 4-2-5 and your positions are limited to the kids available at the school however.....in the NFL each position is specialized and each player has a specific skill set to match that position there is a reason players are scouted as a Cover 2 corner or a WLB they have the skill set to play that position but not necessarily the other man-corner or SLB I agree that the do specialize but not that it should close doors when talking about your depth chart much the same way that a guy might play every position on the OL I think we are talking (Ideally) and (filling in getting a job done.)
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04-23-2010, 03:21 PM	#72
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: Poydras You nailed it Originally Posted by falconhater bubble screen ...running back makes a belly in his route going about 5-7 yards deep in the back field and catches ball heading toward line of scrimmage. So what did "they're coming back to the bubble" mean in the context in which he said it? (I'm assuming you've seen the Saints Championship DVD as many times as I have.)

04-23-2010, 03:25 PM	#73
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Poydras You nailed it Originally Posted by falconhater I agree that the do specialize but not that it should close doors when talking about your depth chart much the same way that a guy might play every position on the OL I think we are talking (Ideally) and (filling in getting a job done.) of course.....if you play LB you should be able to fill in anywhere.... just like a center should be able to play guard but there are definitly players with skill sets better suited for one or the other not everybody that is an OLB can play MLB and vice versa......not everybody that can take on blockers and cover in space.....thats the reason sergio kindle is scouted as a SLB/DE and sean weatherspoon is scouted as a WLB different skill sets

04-23-2010, 03:26 PM	#74
falconhater 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 257	Re: Poydras You nailed it Originally Posted by poydras So what did "they're coming back to the bubble" mean in the context in which he said it? (I'm assuming you've seen the Saints Championship DVD as many times as I have.) They had ran a bubble screen a couple times he set away from their strenght because they were coming back to the bubble(running it again) and he wanted to be set up to stop it when they did set up in a formation they wouldnt expect have them run into a "Trap" of sorts. you know be in one place when they think your somewhere else.
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04-23-2010, 03:27 PM	#75
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Poydras You nailed it Originally Posted by falconhater bubble screen ...running back makes a belly in his route going about 5-7 yards deep in the back field and catches ball heading toward line of scrimmage. bubble screen in the spread is usually in a trips set where a WR is matched up against a safety 2 WRs fire out and block while the 3rd sits back and takes the screen pass havent seen the saints DVD so if its different on there i have no idea what you're talking about

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04-23-2010, 03:29 PM	#76
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Poydras You nailed it Originally Posted by CantonLegend of course.....if you play LB you should be able to fill in anywhere.... just like a center should be able to play guard but there are definitly players with skill sets better suited for one or the other not everybody that is an OLB can play MLB and vice versa......not everybody that can take on blockers and cover in space.....thats the reason sergio kindle is scouted as a SLB/DE and sean weatherspoon is scouted as a WLB different skill sets Yeah ..special skill sets do apply...not all LBs can cover..and some cant defend the run as well..thats elementary...we need a run stuffer..and the LBs we have will be servicable...

04-23-2010, 03:33 PM	#77
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: Poydras You nailed it Originally Posted by falconhater They had ran a bubble screen a couple times he set away from their strenght because they were coming back to the bubble(running it again) and he wanted to be set up to stop it when they did set up in a formation they wouldnt expect have them run into a "Trap" of sorts. you know be in one place when they think your somewhere else. Well ... uh ... that clears that up. Maybe someone here still has a tape of the arizona game and I can go back and watch it.

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poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: Poydras You nailed it dang! OLBs are dropping off the board like crazy!

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Poydras You nailed it Originally Posted by poydras dang! OLBs are dropping off the board like crazy! Don't worry about OLB's. Believe me, a DT is more vital.