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Re: TE Jimmy Graham

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Originally Posted by poydras (Post 221227)

oh yeah?
Arnoux: "Shorter than scouts would like and a bit round in the middle. … Lacks the instincts and quick first step preferred at the "Mike" 'backer position. … Takes a moment to recognize the action and is slow to flow toward the ball. … Lacks the straight-line speed to beat backs to the flanks and is a liability in coverage. … Lacks the lateral agility to consistently get around blockers in tight quarters, thus relying on his pop to disengage. … Needs an open lane to close when rushing the quarterback."

and Dunbar: "Has good closing speed, but lacks the lateral range or blazing speed to play on the outside "

Oh, yeah. Dunbar has not played a single down at middle linebacker since he's been in the NFL. Every snap he's been in on defense has been on the outside, so you are wrong about him.

Arnoux hasn't seen the field, so neither one of us can honestly evaluate whether he can or can't play the outside. Scouting reports are always conflicting, because it depends on who the scout that is evaluating the player. So, since that is the case, we are both wrong until we see where he is put on the field.

Re: TE Jimmy Graham

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Originally Posted by stockman311 (Post 221231)

So your claiming Arnoux is a middle linebacker by posting a scouting report saying he can't play middle linebacker?

I was wondering that myself. Big contradiction there.

Re: TE Jimmy Graham

i like it, at first i was like "?" But after hearing his interview on wwl. I like it, plus just watching a few videos on him. This dude could make it

Re: TE Jimmy Graham

You guys are way off on Jimmy Graham. He's going to be a good player for us. I wanted him but there's no way I take him ahead of Everson Griffen and Cam Thomas. There's no way I would have passed on Kindle in the first.

Looks like Brown and Sharper could be on the move.

Re: TE Jimmy Graham

I guess I'm a douchebag but I don't like the pick. It's a project pick at a position that may need attention but certainly not before almost anything defense. And on top of that, 2 of 3 picks went to offense. The #1 rated offense really for about 4 years now.

I know that QB's love a good TE but a project in the third seems goofy.

I do believe, however, that a benefit of this pick is that he is a TE from the U of Miami like Shockey so Shockey will most likely teach him everything he knows and will probably be very encouraging to the kid.

Re: TE Jimmy Graham

I seem to have a flashback to last year's comments by us when we drafted guys who prompted us to make these very same kinds of comments. They did prove invaluable picks as the season went on. I think this is a continuation of this trend. And we'll be thanking SP and Loomis during this season for TWO DAT!

Re: TE Jimmy Graham

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Originally Posted by poydras (Post 221176)

I don't care if he won the heisman trophy. We don't need another tight end.

Agreed and unless we already had JB traded for an OLB or DT we didn't need to draft an OT in the 2nd either.

Re: TE Jimmy Graham

I've watched Jimmy Graham play this past season. Trust me, he is a beast. Big Physical TE and with pretty good hands. With a little mentoring from Shockely and others he will be a great TE.

Re: TE Jimmy Graham

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Originally Posted by KingCutta (Post 221323)

I've watched Jimmy Graham play this past season. Trust me, he is a beast. Big Physical TE and with pretty good hands. With a little mentoring from Shockely and others he will be a great TE.

Thats what I keep reading everwhere. People that have seen him play a lot think he has the upside of a Tony Gonzalez or Antonio Gates. He COULD be a superstar if he develops as anticipated.

I love this pick, but he won't pay huge dividends until 2011 and beyond.