FO Blew a Great Opportunity. (My Opinion Only)

realheavyd · 04-24-2010, 02:40 AM

I truly believe they will draft a DT(NT type) probably next up at #130 (or possibly sooner if a trade goes through before then).

These two players who would be perfect fits for Gregg Williams' schemes on defense with the Saints this year are ranked in the top 20 defensive linemen (including DE's, DT's and LB's) by fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2010/top-nfl-prospects-for-2010 and are still on the board as we speak:

Cam Thomas, DT, North Carolina - 6'3 - 330
Al Woods, DT, LSU - 6'4 - 317

I would also expect for GW to want to add a speedy OLB through this draft at some point (which is where a trade deal for Brown could come in very handy if they can work out an early-to-mid 4th rounder this year, coupled with a 3rd or possibly even a 2nd rounder next year with some needy team) soon too.

These two OLB's are still available and are ranked in the top 20 D-linemen from that same list:

Ricky Sapp, LB, Clemson - 6'4 - 240
Thaddeus Gibson, LB, Ohio State - 6'2 - 240

Other speedy and aggressive OLB options include:

Norwood, Eric OLB South Carolina
Watson, Dekoda OLB Florida State

Don't rule out the Saints moving around in the 4th or 5th (through trades) rounds to target a couple of these type of guys in this draft later on today!

Maybe the last day of this draft will prove to be the most exciting for us as Saints fans after all...

realheavyd · 04-26-2010, 02:55 PM

I hit it on the Al Woods pick in round 4, but missed completely on the speedy OLB pick in this year's draft.

It seems like the Saints think pretty highly of the roster members they already have in house with Casillas, Dunbar and Arnoux along with the UDFA's they are bringing in next weekend.

realheavyd · 04-24-2010, 02:45 AM

I have to sleep sometime. It's 3:45 AM now...

subguy · 04-24-2010, 06:24 AM

I remember sitting here on B&G in 2003 draft day live chatting,the draft we took Stinchcomb and saying all of these same things. We were all cursing and calling him names. It very rarely seems we pick who we think would fill our needs. It is frustrating but I feel there are behind the scenes moves happening. I have no real qualms with Robinson, although he wouldn't have been my choice. I do not think you can really go wrong with a good OL, even if it is a year down the road. And Graham seems to be a hell of an athlete, but certainly a project player.

MatthewT · 04-24-2010, 06:29 AM

All three of these picks have future written all over them. The first pick was pretty easy. We all seen how bad it got when the secondary got banged up and had to miss time. This was a needed pick, and no telling if Sharper comes back or not. I was a bit puzzled by the second round pick, until I realized by next year at this time there could be a major need at LT position. The third was pretty easy, Shockey had a hard time staying on the field, and could possibly be at the end of his career. Getting a talented prospect on board and giving him a year or two of breaking in is not a bad idea at the TE position.

I do get the Saints really need to get better at LB and DT, but there is no way the team can fill every hole at once. I am pretty sure they will be able to find another DT and LB to compliment either through the draft today, or via trade/free agent pickup.

Cruize · 04-24-2010, 06:41 AM

I can argue the upside and future abilities of Brown and Graham. But, to ignore the gaping holes that exist now at LB and DT on the 25th ranked defense in the NFL for what essentially is a 5th string OT and a 3rd sting TE on the best offense in the NFL doesn't make sense.

CheramieIII · 04-24-2010, 06:42 AM

Don't forget that Patrick Robinson was GDub's pick. We're still expecting to resign Sharper so that beefs up the secondary. I was listening to one theory that teams are passing more so if you can shut down the pass and have a great offense (like our's) you can outscore anyone. While this is not a new theory it seems to be a very logical explanation for the 2 offensive picks so far. Graham is going to be a beast and Charlie Brown will back up Bushrod. I just think we need to trade Jamal for Haynesworth and get it over with.

realheavyd · 04-26-2010, 02:57 PM

Sir Saint looks pretty good as a tattoo, doesn't he CheramieIII?

st thomas · 04-26-2010, 03:17 PM

did i hear that odalious thomas got cut?

04-24-2010, 02:40 AM	#1
realheavyd 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 339	Re: FO Blew a Great Opportunity. (My Opinion Only) I truly believe they will draft a DT(NT type) probably next up at #130 (or possibly sooner if a trade goes through before then). These two players who would be perfect fits for Gregg Williams' schemes on defense with the Saints this year are ranked in the top 20 defensive linemen (including DE's, DT's and LB's) by fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2010/top-nfl-prospects-for-2010 and are still on the board as we speak: Cam Thomas, DT, North Carolina - 6'3 - 330 Al Woods, DT, LSU - 6'4 - 317 I would also expect for GW to want to add a speedy OLB through this draft at some point (which is where a trade deal for Brown could come in very handy if they can work out an early-to-mid 4th rounder this year, coupled with a 3rd or possibly even a 2nd rounder next year with some needy team) soon too. These two OLB's are still available and are ranked in the top 20 D-linemen from that same list: Ricky Sapp, LB, Clemson - 6'4 - 240 Thaddeus Gibson, LB, Ohio State - 6'2 - 240 Other speedy and aggressive OLB options include: Norwood, Eric OLB South Carolina Watson, Dekoda OLB Florida State Don't rule out the Saints moving around in the 4th or 5th (through trades) rounds to target a couple of these type of guys in this draft later on today! Maybe the last day of this draft will prove to be the most exciting for us as Saints fans after all...
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04-26-2010, 02:55 PM	#2
realheavyd 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 339	Re: FO Blew a Great Opportunity. (My Opinion Only) I hit it on the Al Woods pick in round 4, but missed completely on the speedy OLB pick in this year's draft. It seems like the Saints think pretty highly of the roster members they already have in house with Casillas, Dunbar and Arnoux along with the UDFA's they are bringing in next weekend.
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04-24-2010, 02:45 AM	#3
realheavyd 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 339	Re: FO Blew a Great Opportunity. (My Opinion Only) I have to sleep sometime. It's 3:45 AM now...
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04-24-2010, 06:24 AM	#4
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,103	Re: FO Blew a Great Opportunity. (My Opinion Only) I remember sitting here on B&G in 2003 draft day live chatting,the draft we took Stinchcomb and saying all of these same things. We were all cursing and calling him names. It very rarely seems we pick who we think would fill our needs. It is frustrating but I feel there are behind the scenes moves happening. I have no real qualms with Robinson, although he wouldn't have been my choice. I do not think you can really go wrong with a good OL, even if it is a year down the road. And Graham seems to be a hell of an athlete, but certainly a project player.

04-24-2010, 06:29 AM	#5
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: FO Blew a Great Opportunity. (My Opinion Only) All three of these picks have future written all over them. The first pick was pretty easy. We all seen how bad it got when the secondary got banged up and had to miss time. This was a needed pick, and no telling if Sharper comes back or not. I was a bit puzzled by the second round pick, until I realized by next year at this time there could be a major need at LT position. The third was pretty easy, Shockey had a hard time staying on the field, and could possibly be at the end of his career. Getting a talented prospect on board and giving him a year or two of breaking in is not a bad idea at the TE position. I do get the Saints really need to get better at LB and DT, but there is no way the team can fill every hole at once. I am pretty sure they will be able to find another DT and LB to compliment either through the draft today, or via trade/free agent pickup.

04-24-2010, 06:41 AM	#6
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: FO Blew a Great Opportunity. (My Opinion Only) I can argue the upside and future abilities of Brown and Graham. But, to ignore the gaping holes that exist now at LB and DT on the 25th ranked defense in the NFL for what essentially is a 5th string OT and a 3rd sting TE on the best offense in the NFL doesn't make sense.
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04-24-2010, 06:42 AM	#7
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: FO Blew a Great Opportunity. (My Opinion Only) Don't forget that Patrick Robinson was GDub's pick. We're still expecting to resign Sharper so that beefs up the secondary. I was listening to one theory that teams are passing more so if you can shut down the pass and have a great offense (like our's) you can outscore anyone. While this is not a new theory it seems to be a very logical explanation for the 2 offensive picks so far. Graham is going to be a beast and Charlie Brown will back up Bushrod. I just think we need to trade Jamal for Haynesworth and get it over with.
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04-26-2010, 02:57 PM	#8
realheavyd 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 339	Re: FO Blew a Great Opportunity. (My Opinion Only) Sir Saint looks pretty good as a tattoo, doesn't he CheramieIII?
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04-26-2010, 03:17 PM	#9
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: FO Blew a Great Opportunity. (My Opinion Only) did i hear that odalious thomas got cut?